LCPS sexual assualt - who is held accountable?

[Anonymous]

why did my post on the legal definition of sodomy get removed?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:why did my post on the legal definition of sodomy get removed?

It was pretty graphic and I don't want this thread flagged by advertisers. Anyway, you should read the indictment and you will see that your definition was unnecessary.

[Anonymous]

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Knock it off. DeVos change was for due process, which even this rapist deserves. LCPS could have alerted parents, put this kid on forced virtual learning (it’s a thing now!!) while allowing the police to finish their investigation.
If you want to protect girls keep boys, even the fluid 🙄 ones, out of the bathroom.

"The suspect, juvenile court prosecutors assured Smith, was being held responsible: He was on house arrest, confined to his mother’s townhouse."https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/loudoun-county-schools-covered-up-bathroom-rape-and-sodomy-of-15-year-old-girl-by-skirt-wearing-bisexual-male/. However the reality is he was at Broad Run High School forcing a second girl into an empty classroom. Nobody is stepping up for accountability as to why he wasn't at the townhouse--a clear coverup.

One would assume the court ordered that he be on house arrest other than to attend school, see his PO, and things like that. The court would not have precluded him from attending school while charged. LCPS should have put in better safeguards at Broad Run.

Since we were told ad nauseam last year - Virtual Learning is School!- he should have been removed after the first incident, placed on VL and not transferred. But I suspect that because this was happening during the whole bathroom debate, it was shoved under the carpet so as not to alarm (notify) concerned parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In regards to bathroom safety what if every bathroom had an emergency button. If pushed it would notify the main office and school resource officer. It could be used for any type of emergency including medical. Another idea is if bathrooms required students to swipe their student ID to get access. Students including transgender students would only be given access to their preferred bathroom. This way a boy couldn’t just walk into the girls bathroom.

Common denominator seems to be we need to work on how we are raising boys.

Exactly! People are talking about bathroom monitors, emergency buttons, locks in doors, etc when the real problem is predatory men/boys who see girls as prey.

PS. If there’s the will and the opportunity, a sexual assault can happen almost anywhere on a school campus, not just in the bathrooms.

And it’s hilariously naive to think parenting will solve this. I work in a mental hospital. Do you know how many of my patients have been accused of sexual assault? Hint: A LOT.

Try to parent your way out of that one.

Sounds like you have some important insights to share. Can you tell us more about what can/should be done?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Uh I don’t know what weird crap goes on in private school but teachers are not in the bathrooms with kids in public school. It is an incredibly private and vulnerable environment for rhem, adults should NOT be in there. You all hate trans kids so much you’re willing to take this incident (which doesn’t even involve a trans kid) to the extreme of firing a superintendent who has been capable in many ways (only to leave the entire school district without a leader in a very difficult year with a school board in flux) and require adults who are MORE LIKELY to victimize young kids in the bathroom with children. Like use your damn brains, come on. You do not want grown adults in the bathroom with your kids, you really don’t.

When my kids went back to school last year (covid precautions), they had a monitor outside the bathrooms and only one kid could go in a time. No adult has to actually be inside the bathroom).

Who do you propose will do this when we aren’t enough fully staffed with licensed teachers or subs?

I’m just telling you what they DID. Apparently they figured it out.

Oh yeah “figure it out.” Perfect solution. Nobody wants to drive buses, sub, or teach, but sure we will just figure out how to find people to monitor bathrooms to supposedly prevent sexual assault. Even the SRO already in school can’t manage to do that but yeah, random monitor will. Y’all are all nuts.

You’re right. Let’s throw our hand up and give up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Knock it off. DeVos change was for due process, which even this rapist deserves. LCPS could have alerted parents, put this kid on forced virtual learning (it’s a thing now!!) while allowing the police to finish their investigation.
If you want to protect girls keep boys, even the fluid 🙄 ones, out of the bathroom.

"The suspect, juvenile court prosecutors assured Smith, was being held responsible: He was on house arrest, confined to his mother’s townhouse."https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/loudoun-county-schools-covered-up-bathroom-rape-and-sodomy-of-15-year-old-girl-by-skirt-wearing-bisexual-male/. However the reality is he was at Broad Run High School forcing a second girl into an empty classroom. Nobody is stepping up for accountability as to why he wasn't at the townhouse--a clear coverup.

One would assume the court ordered that he be on house arrest other than to attend school, see his PO, and things like that. The court would not have precluded him from attending school while charged. LCPS should have put in better safeguards at Broad Run.

Since we were told ad nauseam last year - Virtual Learning is School!- he should have been removed after the first incident, placed on VL and not transferred. But I suspect that because this was happening during the whole bathroom debate, it was shoved under the carpet so as not to alarm (notify) concerned parents.

Title IX would not have permitted that unless the accused accepted it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Knock it off. DeVos change was for due process, which even this rapist deserves. LCPS could have alerted parents, put this kid on forced virtual learning (it’s a thing now!!) while allowing the police to finish their investigation.
If you want to protect girls keep boys, even the fluid 🙄 ones, out of the bathroom.

"The suspect, juvenile court prosecutors assured Smith, was being held responsible: He was on house arrest, confined to his mother’s townhouse."https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/loudoun-county-schools-covered-up-bathroom-rape-and-sodomy-of-15-year-old-girl-by-skirt-wearing-bisexual-male/. However the reality is he was at Broad Run High School forcing a second girl into an empty classroom. Nobody is stepping up for accountability as to why he wasn't at the townhouse--a clear coverup.

One would assume the court ordered that he be on house arrest other than to attend school, see his PO, and things like that. The court would not have precluded him from attending school while charged. LCPS should have put in better safeguards at Broad Run.

Since we were told ad nauseam last year - Virtual Learning is School!- he should have been removed after the first incident, placed on VL and not transferred. But I suspect that because this was happening during the whole bathroom debate, it was shoved under the carpet so as not to alarm (notify) concerned parents.

Title IX would not have permitted that unless the accused accepted it.

F the new title IX stuff and DeVos. That is the whole issue here.

[Anonymous]

The Title IX reg is a real problem. They should have kept better track of the kid at the new school, though. A couple years ago he would not have been in school while this played out from the 1st assault.

[Anonymous]

F the new title IX stuff and DeVos. That is the whole issue here.

This resulted from colleges expelling the accused --no matter what the evidence.

Everyone deserves due process. But, I find it hard to believe that the school could not have monitored the kid since he had been charged based on evidence. Title IX is an excuse being used. When someone is charged with a crime, you have bail set according to the crime. Of course, that may not be what is happening with these leftist prosecutors. Remember, this is not just the school at fault.

[Anonymous]

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F the new title IX stuff and DeVos. That is the whole issue here.

This resulted from colleges expelling the accused --no matter what the evidence.

Everyone deserves due process. But, I find it hard to believe that the school could not have monitored the kid since he had been charged based on evidence. Title IX is an excuse being used. When someone is charged with a crime, you have bail set according to the crime. Of course, that may not be what is happening with these leftist prosecutors. Remember, this is not just the school at fault.

I agree. Juvenile court rules, Title IX make it complicated, but knowing that we still have to keep the rest of the kids safe.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

F the new title IX stuff and DeVos. That is the whole issue here.

This resulted from colleges expelling the accused --no matter what the evidence.

Everyone deserves due process. But, I find it hard to believe that the school could not have monitored the kid since he had been charged based on evidence. Title IX is an excuse being used. When someone is charged with a crime, you have bail set according to the crime. Of course, that may not be what is happening with these leftist prosecutors. Remember, this is not just the school at fault.

The law requires that a juvenile suspect be released or have the case adjudicated within after 21 days of detention. The results of DNA analysis hadn't been returned within 21 days so judge ordered the student release with electronic monitoring.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

F the new title IX stuff and DeVos. That is the whole issue here.

This resulted from colleges expelling the accused --no matter what the evidence.

Everyone deserves due process. But, I find it hard to believe that the school could not have monitored the kid since he had been charged based on evidence. Title IX is an excuse being used. When someone is charged with a crime, you have bail set according to the crime. Of course, that may not be what is happening with these leftist prosecutors. Remember, this is not just the school at fault.

The law requires that a juvenile suspect be released or have the case adjudicated within after 21 days of detention. The results of DNA analysis hadn't been returned within 21 days so judge ordered the student release with electronic monitoring.

Assuming these time requirements are accurate, perhaps tests in cases involving juvenile suspects need to be prioritized.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

F the new title IX stuff and DeVos. That is the whole issue here.

This resulted from colleges expelling the accused --no matter what the evidence.

Everyone deserves due process. But, I find it hard to believe that the school could not have monitored the kid since he had been charged based on evidence. Title IX is an excuse being used. When someone is charged with a crime, you have bail set according to the crime. Of course, that may not be what is happening with these leftist prosecutors. Remember, this is not just the school at fault.

The law requires that a juvenile suspect be released or have the case adjudicated within after 21 days of detention. The results of DNA analysis hadn't been returned within 21 days so judge ordered the student release with electronic monitoring.

That is true... but there is an exception allowed for extending detention for good cause to include time to allow for scientific analysis. The judge could have kept the student in juvenile detention if the reason for the delay was to get DNA sample results or other evidence from a rape kit analysis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

F the new title IX stuff and DeVos. That is the whole issue here.

This resulted from colleges expelling the accused --no matter what the evidence.

Everyone deserves due process. But, I find it hard to believe that the school could not have monitored the kid since he had been charged based on evidence. Title IX is an excuse being used. When someone is charged with a crime, you have bail set according to the crime. Of course, that may not be what is happening with these leftist prosecutors. Remember, this is not just the school at fault.

The law requires that a juvenile suspect be released or have the case adjudicated within after 21 days of detention. The results of DNA analysis hadn't been returned within 21 days so judge ordered the student release with electronic monitoring.

That is true... but there is an exception allowed for extending detention for good cause to include time to allow for scientific analysis. The judge could have kept the student in juvenile detention if the reason for the delay was to get DNA sample results or other evidence from a rape kit analysis.

It seems you have been wanting to see some citations on this thread so this comes from the Va Code Section 16.1-277.1 D.

The limitations also may be extended by the court for a reasonable period of time based upon good cause shown, provided that the basis for such extension is recorded in writing and filed among the papers of the proceedings. For the purposes of this section, good cause includes extension of limitations necessary to obtain the presence of a witness to testify regarding the results of scientific analyses or examinations and good cause shown by the director of the court services unit completing a report pursuant to subsection C of § 16.1-269.1 that additional time is needed for the completion of the report.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

F the new title IX stuff and DeVos. That is the whole issue here.

This resulted from colleges expelling the accused --no matter what the evidence.

Everyone deserves due process. But, I find it hard to believe that the school could not have monitored the kid since he had been charged based on evidence. Title IX is an excuse being used. When someone is charged with a crime, you have bail set according to the crime. Of course, that may not be what is happening with these leftist prosecutors. Remember, this is not just the school at fault.

The law requires that a juvenile suspect be released or have the case adjudicated within after 21 days of detention. The results of DNA analysis hadn't been returned within 21 days so judge ordered the student release with electronic monitoring.

That is true... but there is an exception allowed for extending detention for good cause to include time to allow for scientific analysis. The judge could have kept the student in juvenile detention if the reason for the delay was to get DNA sample results or other evidence from a rape kit analysis.

It seems like the SRO didn’t believe her and/or school wanted to keep quiet about the incident so I wonder if it clouded the investigation. The SRO’s and admin are usually friendly and collaborate. SRO’s are there for crime prevention. Once a crime occurs someone more impartial should be writing up the crime report.

Students and even teachers once they walk through the school door lose some rights. If someone spits in your face or punches you in the face or gropes you anywhere besides a school, you can report that to the police and hope the perpetrator has a consequence. In a school it is now hushed up and the victim is made to meet with the perpetrator in a restorative justice meeting.

There are cases where restorative justice is called for and the best solution but in too many situations the perpetrator learns there are no real consequences. Too often in the past kids who weren’t white were getting arrested or cited at school but now the pendulum has swung so far that there are serious safety issues at many schools.