When presented with both options, having 33% of the applicants picking Columbia over Princeton and 29% picking Columbia over Yale isn't nearly as "lopsided" as PP make it out to be. A lopsided matchup would be something like Princeton vs. Cornell where 5% pick Cornell or Princeton vs. Dartmouth where only 12% of the kids pick Dartmouth. |
tiers based on cross admit preferences, September 2021 edition:
Harvard (55% picks over Stanford, 69% over Yale, 58% over MIT, and 77% over Princeton, 85% over Columbia) Stanford (loses to Harvard, but 66% over MIT, 61% over Yale, 71% over Princeton, 83% over Columbia) ------------------------------ MIT (loses to H and S, 67% over Yale, 55% over Princeton, 76% over Columbia, 81% over Caltech) Yale (loses to H, S, and M, but wins 61% over Princeton, 70% over Columbia, 50%-50% tied with Caltech) ------------------------------ Princeton (loses to all of the above, 65% over Columbia, 56% over Caltech, 76% over Penn, 80% over Duke, 62% over Chicago) Columbia (loses to HYPSM but wins 58% over Caltech, 63% over Penn/Duke, 73% over Brown/Dartmouth, 65% over Chicago) Caltech (loses to HYPSM, Columbia, but edges out Penn with 56%, Duke with 75%, Brown with 57%, Dartmouth with 60%, loses to Chicago with 47%, tied with Yale 50%-50%) - really an outlier here ------------------------------ Penn (loses to Columbia, Caltech and HYPSM, 51% over Duke, wins 63% over Brown, 60% over Dartmouth, and 60% over Chicago) Duke (loses to HYPSM, Columbia, Caltech, and marginally loses to Penn by only 2%, 59% over Brown, 63% over Dartmouth, and 57% over Chicago) ------------------------------ Brown (loses to all of the above, tied 50%-50% with Chicago, but 65% over Dartmouth, 76% over Cornell, 86% over JHU, 64% over Northwestern, 67% over Rice) Chicago (loses to all of the above except Caltech, tied 50%-50% with Brown, 54% over Dartmouth, 69% over Northwestern, 69% over JHU, 66% over Rice) Dartmouth (loses to all of the above, 68% over Cornell, 59% over JHU, 61% over Northwestern, 71% over Rice) ------------------------------ Cornell (loses to all of the above, 55% over Northwestern, 54% over JHU/Notre Dame, roughly tied with WashU, loses 47% to Rice) Northwestern (loses to all of the above, 65% over JHU, 66% over Vanderbilt, 51% over WashU, 58% over Rice, but loses 44% to Notre Dame) Rice (loses to all of the above, 55% over JHU, 57% over WashU, 53% over Cornell, 54% over Notre Dame) JHU (loses to all of the above, 50-50% tied with Notre Dame, 57% over Vanderbilt, 53% over WashU) Notre Dame (loses to all above, 50-50% tied with JHU, 74% over WashU, 70% over Vanderbilt) WashU (roughly tied or loses to all of the above, 56% over Vanderbilt) Vanderbilt (loses to all of the above, 50-50% tied with Rice) ------------------------------ UCLA and other USNWR 20+ schools (loses to all of the above) |
Parchment also says, 60% Wake Forest vs 40% Princeton 57% Virginia Tech vs 43% Princeton 68% Virginia Tech vs 33% Yale 57% James Madison U vs 43% Harvard 60% James Madison vs 40% Yale Parchment says so - with 95% confidence interval - so it must be so. |
And, 67% Redford vs 33% Harvard 60% Redford vs 40% Stanford 60% Christopher Newport vs 40% Harvard 60% Christopher Newport vs 40% Princeton |
DP, but for the 100th time, Parchment is NOT accurate or reliable. |
If anyone is interested in parchment, go read parchment. Find something more interesting to discuss here. |
What is sad is knowing there are parents who come on here pushing their kids’ 4 year college experience based on what they see in parchment. Parchment is is for entertainment purpose; it’s comedy, like Saturday Night Live. You have to feel sorry for kids who got these parents who are dumb as a rock. |
What's sad is seeing posters who derive so much of their sense of self-worth from what might be a short-lived blip in the ranking of one school by a single publication. You end up credentialing that one publication and revealing your own insecurities far more than you'll probably ever realize. |
What's sad is seeing certain self-righteous posters who refuse to see the whole picture (and a quickly changing college admissions landscape) and stick to their preconceived notions and fail to base their argument on any substantial data. All I can see on this thread is just some incoherent, biased, (and incredibly racist) rants. |
The “whole picture” requires a perspective far broader than that displayed by a few posters who care only about arguing incessantly about whether one or two schools like Columbia are better than almost 4000 others. Invoking racism when your own myopia is so blatantly obvious just underscores the blatant narcissism. |
My post is about parchment. Nothing else. You are the poster that’s on a 24/7 negative campaign. |
Harvard Stanford MIT Yale Princeton Columbia Caltech Penn Duke Brown Chicago Dartmouth Cornell Northwestern Rice JHU Notre Dame WashU Vanderbilt I think this is the most accurate tier list so far... which makes sense because parchment measures the relative desirability of these schools. |
+1000. You nailed it! |
How many times do we have to say... Parchment is not accurate. |
1) Is Columbia safe? 2) Trying to understand the reference of Columbia as an Ivy + connotes. Please expound. 3) Would Columbia be ranked higher than Princeton, if its campus were in Princeton, NJ? 4) You state that New Haven, CT is a third rate town. Please list some first rate towns and some second rate towns. 5) "Not to add these schools reflect the epitome of old-money WASP snobbery with weirdly exclusive clubs, which wealthy internationals would avoid given they have more cosmopolitan options." Very inaccurate and ignorant assessment. |