War with Iran

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Anonymous wrote:It is quite remarkable to see that Saudi Arabia gave permission for Israel to fly its fighter jets, along with US refueling aircraft, through its airspace to bomb an Iranian gas field it shares with Qatar....

Was Mossad behind MBS’s palace coup?

This effectively makes Israel and SA allies in the fight against Iran - that’s the way Iran will see it. Wonder if SA formally enters the fray ? Especially if Iran lashes out.

Saudi Arabia effectively pressured Pakistan into formalizing a longstanding security relationship by signing the Strategic Mutual Defense Agreement in September 2025. This pact treats aggression against one country as aggression against both, building on decades of military cooperation but institutionalizing it amid heightened regional tensions.

Pakistan remains heavily dependent on Saudi Arabia economically: it owes billions in loans and deferred oil payments, while Saudi Arabia hosts one of the largest Pakistani expatriate communities, whose remittances form a massive portion of Pakistan's foreign exchange inflows (often rivaling or exceeding those from the UAE or other Gulf states). This dynamic resembles the asymmetric U.S.-Mexico relationship—deep economic reliance—but reversed in military terms: Pakistan possesses nuclear weapons, while Saudi Arabia does not.

The Pakistani public would almost certainly oppose any military action—let alone nuclear strikes—against Iran on Saudi Arabia's behalf. A significant Shia minority (estimated at 15% of the population) and widespread sympathy for Iran among segments of society would make such a move politically explosive. If the military were compelled to act under the pact's obligations, it could trigger severe domestic crisis, sectarian unrest, or even internal fractures.

This scenario would represent a major strategic windfall for India, Pakistan's archrival. Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who leverages intense nationalism in a style that often outpaces even Donald Trump's, strengthened ties with Israel during a high-profile visit to Israel in late February—just days before the US-Israeli bombings. The visit focused on deepening defense, trade, and counter-terrorism cooperation, further aligning India with Israel at a volatile time.

lol India is on its knees and bowing to Iran. All these fake relationships with Israel are dead now. The Saudis now know Israel and the US are unable to protect them and any formal relationship with Israel means they are enemies of Iran.

Iran is the power in the regime. Everyone will be eager to make deals with them. The Israelis offer nothing.

Hmm…, never seen a regional power that has no control over their own airspace. You realize their water and power can be cut at will, right ?

You know that the Israeli and US planes are standing off outside of Iran when they release munitions? Iran air defense has lit up and locked on to F-35s? Iran has shot down over 50 predator and its replacement. You really have no clue what’s happening in this war. Israel claims to control the air space but does not enter.

You think the Iranians can’t shut the power and water off in Israel and the gulf states? Israel has a nuclear reactor that can be hit and 80% of Israel’s water is desalinated.

Locked-on but not shot down, and why would that be ? lol ! Because they couldn’t lock onto anything ! Where are all these Predator drones - should be on Iranian TV, nightly ! We’re 20 days in, they haven’t hit shit.

Just another comical post from DCUM bubble.

You really do not understand what that means. Do you? Continue on with your Israeli nonsense. Things have changed dramatically in 19 days.

Yes they have. Iran’s AF and navy are gone, pathetic as they were. And what are we on the 2nd or 3rd string of “leaders” - hard to keep track. Agreed things have changed alot.

You sound a lot like the poster that keeps insisting Ukraine is winning…

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So Trump got one photo op in front of coffins to use for fundraising and now there won’t be any more.

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Iranians are pretty brilliant in their defensive war strategy. Create a global oil shortage and prevent Arab countries from selling their oil. Then sell your oil and no one is going to blow up these tankers. What a way to circumvent sanctions while also forcing countries to choose sides.

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We need to get rid of all the pro-Israel and pro-Iran posters cluttering up the thread and arguing with each other. Ugh. What morons.

Of course Bibi isn't dead. He's going to stick around to plague us for many more years, that horror. I wish him a painful prison death and the same to his son.

The Iranians have no hope of salvaging much from their battering, but they know how to make the world suffer while they're going down. It was obvious they would close the Straights. The White House refused to listen to Dan Caine and other rational people who warned them of that consequence.

Silver lining - better midterms for the Democrats! They might even take the Senate.

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Anonymous wrote:It is quite remarkable to see that Saudi Arabia gave permission for Israel to fly its fighter jets, along with US refueling aircraft, through its airspace to bomb an Iranian gas field it shares with Qatar....

Was Mossad behind MBS’s palace coup?

This effectively makes Israel and SA allies in the fight against Iran - that’s the way Iran will see it. Wonder if SA formally enters the fray ? Especially if Iran lashes out.

Saudi Arabia effectively pressured Pakistan into formalizing a longstanding security relationship by signing the Strategic Mutual Defense Agreement in September 2025. This pact treats aggression against one country as aggression against both, building on decades of military cooperation but institutionalizing it amid heightened regional tensions.

Pakistan remains heavily dependent on Saudi Arabia economically: it owes billions in loans and deferred oil payments, while Saudi Arabia hosts one of the largest Pakistani expatriate communities, whose remittances form a massive portion of Pakistan's foreign exchange inflows (often rivaling or exceeding those from the UAE or other Gulf states). This dynamic resembles the asymmetric U.S.-Mexico relationship—deep economic reliance—but reversed in military terms: Pakistan possesses nuclear weapons, while Saudi Arabia does not.

The Pakistani public would almost certainly oppose any military action—let alone nuclear strikes—against Iran on Saudi Arabia's behalf. A significant Shia minority (estimated at 15% of the population) and widespread sympathy for Iran among segments of society would make such a move politically explosive. If the military were compelled to act under the pact's obligations, it could trigger severe domestic crisis, sectarian unrest, or even internal fractures.

This scenario would represent a major strategic windfall for India, Pakistan's archrival. Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who leverages intense nationalism in a style that often outpaces even Donald Trump's, strengthened ties with Israel during a high-profile visit to Israel in late February—just days before the US-Israeli bombings. The visit focused on deepening defense, trade, and counter-terrorism cooperation, further aligning India with Israel at a volatile time.

lol India is on its knees and bowing to Iran. All these fake relationships with Israel are dead now. The Saudis now know Israel and the US are unable to protect them and any formal relationship with Israel means they are enemies of Iran.

Iran is the power in the regime. Everyone will be eager to make deals with them. The Israelis offer nothing.

Hmm…, never seen a regional power that has no control over their own airspace. You realize their water and power can be cut at will, right ?

You know that the Israeli and US planes are standing off outside of Iran when they release munitions? Iran air defense has lit up and locked on to F-35s? Iran has shot down over 50 predator and its replacement. You really have no clue what’s happening in this war. Israel claims to control the air space but does not enter.

You think the Iranians can’t shut the power and water off in Israel and the gulf states? Israel has a nuclear reactor that can be hit and 80% of Israel’s water is desalinated.

Locked-on but not shot down, and why would that be ? lol ! Because they couldn’t lock onto anything ! Where are all these Predator drones - should be on Iranian TV, nightly ! We’re 20 days in, they haven’t hit shit.

Just another comical post from DCUM bubble.

You really do not understand what that means. Do you? Continue on with your Israeli nonsense. Things have changed dramatically in 19 days.

Yes they have. Iran’s AF and navy are gone, pathetic as they were. And what are we on the 2nd or 3rd string of “leaders” - hard to keep track. Agreed things have changed alot.

You sound a lot like the poster that keeps insisting Ukraine is winning…

Sure, you sound like the poster that can’t argue your baseless position, so you try to deflect to a different topic. Not effective.

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We need to get rid of all the pro-Israel and pro-Iran posters cluttering up the thread and arguing with each other. Ugh. What morons.

Of course Bibi isn't dead. He's going to stick around to plague us for many more years, that horror. I wish him a painful prison death and the same to his son.

The Iranians have no hope of salvaging much from their battering, but they know how to make the world suffer while they're going down. It was obvious they would close the Straights. The White House refused to listen to Dan Caine and other rational people who warned them of that consequence.

Silver lining - better midterms for the Democrats! They might even take the Senate.

Does that make any differences? All the democratic politicians take money from AIPAC as well. This war won’t be ending any time soon, unfortunately - largely due to religious fanaticism and morally bankrupt bloodlust

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We need to get rid of all the pro-Israel and pro-Iran posters cluttering up the thread and arguing with each other. Ugh. What morons.

Of course Bibi isn't dead. He's going to stick around to plague us for many more years, that horror. I wish him a painful prison death and the same to his son.

The Iranians have no hope of salvaging much from their battering, but they know how to make the world suffer while they're going down. It was obvious they would close the Straights. The White House refused to listen to Dan Caine and other rational people who warned them of that consequence.

Silver lining - better midterms for the Democrats! They might even take the Senate.

Good luck to Dems with getting out the vote. The party is full of AIPAC bankrolled politicians and the people are sick of it. Nobody is going to show up at the polls except for Groypers.

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Anonymous wrote:People should read Ronen Bergman in Israel’s Hebrew press. Quite the change. He says Netanyahu has changed his stance and say Iran can not be defeated. Bibi said Iran is not a threat and we need to concentrate on our other wars which are not going well.

Israel bombed Iranian gas fields knowing full well that Iran would retaliate. They did this with the specific goal of blocking an off ramp for Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:Iranians are pretty brilliant in their defensive war strategy. Create a global oil shortage and prevent Arab countries from selling their oil. Then sell your oil and no one is going to blow up these tankers. What a way to circumvent sanctions while also forcing countries to choose sides.

And this admin was the exact opposite of "pretty brilliant" to not game out this possibility. Perhaps if they listened to at least one career staffer, they would know this.

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We need to get rid of all the pro-Israel and pro-Iran posters cluttering up the thread and arguing with each other. Ugh. What morons.

Of course Bibi isn't dead. He's going to stick around to plague us for many more years, that horror. I wish him a painful prison death and the same to his son.

The Iranians have no hope of salvaging much from their battering, but they know how to make the world suffer while they're going down. It was obvious they would close the Straights. The White House refused to listen to Dan Caine and other rational people who warned them of that consequence.

Silver lining - better midterms for the Democrats! They might even take the Senate.


Okay.

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Anonymous wrote:People should read Ronen Bergman in Israel’s Hebrew press. Quite the change. He says Netanyahu has changed his stance and say Iran can not be defeated. Bibi said Iran is not a threat and we need to concentrate on our other wars which are not going well.

Israel bombed Iranian gas fields knowing full well that Iran would retaliate. They did this with the specific goal of blocking an off ramp for Trump.

Qatar is pretty pissed off. They share the South Pars field with Iran. Israel is a rogue country. Word is Israel is signaling it is looking for away to end this and quickly.

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We need to get rid of all the pro-Israel and pro-Iran posters cluttering up the thread and arguing with each other. Ugh. What morons.

Of course Bibi isn't dead. He's going to stick around to plague us for many more years, that horror. I wish him a painful prison death and the same to his son.

The Iranians have no hope of salvaging much from their battering, but they know how to make the world suffer while they're going down. It was obvious they would close the Straights. The White House refused to listen to Dan Caine and other rational people who warned them of that consequence.

Silver lining - better midterms for the Democrats! They might even take the Senate.

Does that make any differences? All the democratic politicians take money from AIPAC as well. This war won’t be ending any time soon, unfortunately - largely due to religious fanaticism and morally bankrupt bloodlust

No that is not true. Josh Shapiro has a great chance at the nomination. He will bring a lot of republicans and Jewish voters with him.

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Anonymous wrote:It is quite remarkable to see that Saudi Arabia gave permission for Israel to fly its fighter jets, along with US refueling aircraft, through its airspace to bomb an Iranian gas field it shares with Qatar....

Was Mossad behind MBS’s palace coup?

This effectively makes Israel and SA allies in the fight against Iran - that’s the way Iran will see it. Wonder if SA formally enters the fray ? Especially if Iran lashes out.

Saudi Arabia effectively pressured Pakistan into formalizing a longstanding security relationship by signing the Strategic Mutual Defense Agreement in September 2025. This pact treats aggression against one country as aggression against both, building on decades of military cooperation but institutionalizing it amid heightened regional tensions.

Pakistan remains heavily dependent on Saudi Arabia economically: it owes billions in loans and deferred oil payments, while Saudi Arabia hosts one of the largest Pakistani expatriate communities, whose remittances form a massive portion of Pakistan's foreign exchange inflows (often rivaling or exceeding those from the UAE or other Gulf states). This dynamic resembles the asymmetric U.S.-Mexico relationship—deep economic reliance—but reversed in military terms: Pakistan possesses nuclear weapons, while Saudi Arabia does not.

The Pakistani public would almost certainly oppose any military action—let alone nuclear strikes—against Iran on Saudi Arabia's behalf. A significant Shia minority (estimated at 15% of the population) and widespread sympathy for Iran among segments of society would make such a move politically explosive. If the military were compelled to act under the pact's obligations, it could trigger severe domestic crisis, sectarian unrest, or even internal fractures.

This scenario would represent a major strategic windfall for India, Pakistan's archrival. Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who leverages intense nationalism in a style that often outpaces even Donald Trump's, strengthened ties with Israel during a high-profile visit to Israel in late February—just days before the US-Israeli bombings. The visit focused on deepening defense, trade, and counter-terrorism cooperation, further aligning India with Israel at a volatile time.

Who said anything about Pakistan or India, nobody needs those losers. I’m talking about SA fighters dusting off the cobwebs and flying some missions over Iran.

Those “losers” are nuclear armed nations. India has made a pact with Israel. Pakistan with Saudi Arabia but it’s population will revolt if it uses it on Iran. This leads to WWW 3.

WTF?

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Anonymous wrote:
We need to get rid of all the pro-Israel and pro-Iran posters cluttering up the thread and arguing with each other. Ugh. What morons.

Of course Bibi isn't dead. He's going to stick around to plague us for many more years, that horror. I wish him a painful prison death and the same to his son.

The Iranians have no hope of salvaging much from their battering, but they know how to make the world suffer while they're going down. It was obvious they would close the Straights. The White House refused to listen to Dan Caine and other rational people who warned them of that consequence.

Silver lining - better midterms for the Democrats! They might even take the Senate.

Does that make any differences? All the democratic politicians take money from AIPAC as well. This war won’t be ending any time soon, unfortunately - largely due to religious fanaticism and morally bankrupt bloodlust

Are you dumb? It makes a difference for domestic policy. They're going to hamper the White House at every turn. Thank God.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel wants a Muslim civil war between Sunni and Shias, Arabs vs Persians but it’s not going to happen. The gulf states are not known for military prowess in the first place. They care about money. They don’t fight. They said they never wanted this war in the first place and they’re furious at how Donald trump and Jared Kushner played them. If anyone’s at risk of annihilation now, it’s Israel not Iran. Every single nation in the Middle East blames them for this war. Not America but them.

And now they all know the iron dome is a bust.The reason Israel wants to hide that and ban cameras is because their excellence and defense was all based on the mighty iron dome. If Arab nations see that dome is a flop, they may fight Israel again

What is stunning is the misrepresentation of Saudi policy on Iran vis a vis Israel and thr US in the Washington Post and New York Times. It is deliberate and the fact that it is being printed in the most lauded papers shakes me.