Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

She travels, eats at fancy restaurants, sees Broadway shows, sends her kids abroad, etc. on a regular basis. She's rich by most national standards, including American.

Selling the lakehouse may not have been a purely financial decision. It takes a huge amount of energy to maintain a household.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She travels, eats at fancy restaurants, sees Broadway shows, sends her kids abroad, etc. on a regular basis. She's rich by most national standards, including American.

Selling the lakehouse may not have been a purely financial decision. It takes a huge amount of energy to maintain a household.

I'd consider her to be upper-middle class but not wealthy. She's not doing anything vastly extravagant. Live in NYC or DC and you'll know some pretty wealthy people who send their kids to Swiss boarding schools, take lavish vacations (not to Maine) and have multiple homes (which aren't a lake house in Texas). I mean, it's all relative and how you define wealth, I guess. She's comfortable, which to me is upper middle class. She's not worried about losing her home or anything and she's got kids in college but compared to some wealthy people I've met, she's not in that class.

[Anonymous]

Whoa- just looked at Howerton's Twitter and she really took Better Help to task in several tweets. Yet Jen continues to advertise them on her podcast- how do these "besties" reconcile that? You would think if a friend was actively profiting off a company that inflicts mental harm on folks, you would say something, right? This is beyond "agree to disagree" territory as Howerton is a practicing LMFT.

[Anonymous]

Jen is no doubt comfortable. Upper middle class as the post above says. Able to keep a pretty normal Austin area home, drive a nice car, take a few nice domestic vacations a year, send a kid or two to college.

She’s not jet setting or anything but is definitely pretty privileged compared to most American woman.

[Anonymous]

A few years ago before the divorce though she was nudging up pretty close to upper class. When she was more popular and had a tv show and was selling out auditoriums on speaking tours.

Not anymore, though.

The quick lake house sale was an indication that she needed to quickly cut down on expenses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A few years ago before the divorce though she was nudging up pretty close to upper class. When she was more popular and had a tv show and was selling out auditoriums on speaking tours.

Not anymore, though.

The quick lake house sale was an indication that she needed to quickly cut down on expenses.

I think whatever happened with her ex may have taken place at the lake house, and that's why she sold it so fast. No going back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm about to say something positive about Brandon so I guess that means I condone his cheater ways. Since Jen has acknowledged that she was not the one handling any aspect of the finances in her marriage, then it means Brandon was the one negotiating her book contracts and her speaking engagements. If he wasn't doing that on her behalf then she was lying about how much she knew about finances and she was doing it. If he was doing it on her behalf then he was an employee of their company and it wasn't Jen carrying everything. Sounds like she was the face but he was behind the scenes.

That’s actually not how these things work. Most speakers/authors at her previous level have an agent and assistant who bang out all the contracts and deal with the business minutiae. I’m an influencer (yes, yes, I know) and work with an agency for all my brand deals. My husband certainly isn’t negotiating on my behalf. I think Brandon took care of the kids and did the basics, like paying the bills. But he wasn’t negotiating anything.

[Anonymous]

I bet the house is worth around 550K.

She could have had to sell the lake house to settle the divorce. She keeps the house and he gets ... nothing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I bet the house is worth around 550K.

She could have had to sell the lake house to settle the divorce. She keeps the house and he gets ... nothing?

She probably sold the lakehouse to buy him out of the Buda house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

That’s actually not how these things work. Most speakers/authors at her previous level have an agent and assistant who bang out all the contracts and deal with the business minutiae. I’m an influencer (yes, yes, I know) and work with an agency for all my brand deals. My husband certainly isn’t negotiating on my behalf. I think Brandon took care of the kids and did the basics, like paying the bills. But he wasn’t negotiating anything.

You’re correct about this. I wonder what Brandon did all day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not a Jen fan girl and I certainly cringe about some of her behaviors and partnerships. That said, I feel the urge to defend her when I see such a double standard in this thread. Jen’s ethics are scrutinized - even to the point of insinuating that she’s an unfit mother and Remy should live with Brandon. Brandon?!? Brandon is a low life scuz who has exhibited poor morals and ethics in just about any category you can name! I find it fascinating that people scrutinize Jen’s ethics and basically blame her for any of Brandon’s terrible actions (he was horrible because she pushed him to be…). The Christian spin on all of it is wild. The inconsistency and constant comparisons between the two Hatmakers is what compels me to defend her—it’s also what keeps me coming back to DCUM. I love to hate you guys! 🤣

+1. I'm stuck in a cycle of cringing through the worst of her posts and then racing over here to snark on them. But then I see what truly wild takes are on this thread and it takes all the fun out of everything. They make me sad for everyone....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You’re correct about this. I wonder what Brandon did all day.

Hmmm, let's see. Took care of 5 children, shuttling to school, sports, orthodontic appts, all the things. Household upkeep and repair, laundry, meals, etc. Pastor of ANC church for several years, worked at Legacy Collective.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hmmm, let's see. Took care of 5 children, shuttling to school, sports, orthodontic appts, all the things. Household upkeep and repair, laundry, meals, etc. Pastor of ANC church for several years, worked at Legacy Collective.

Don’t forget all the gift-buying for a house of 7, birthdays, Christmas, and anniversaries - one of her favorite things to mention about him for years. That he did all the thoughtful things while she did none (and laughed about it), and that when their kids needed a parent, they always went straight to him first. Her own admissions.

Again, I don’t think anyone mentions good things about Brandon as a means of defending what he did. But Jen had it pretty good with him and treated him like she did…it was sad to watch. Ex-ANC here, and I had left the church long before their divorce. But Brandon was the heart. Jen was the business plan. He screwed up but so did she, perhaps more often and worse; just differently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think whatever happened with her ex may have taken place at the lake house, and that's why she sold it so fast. No going back.

🛎🛎🛎ding ding ding

[Anonymous]

Maybe she’ll tell the lakehouse story in her next book. Should be due for a tell-all by 2024-2025.