How to stop other travellers eat your food supplies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are many literary reference to the abstemious nature of food culture in the British Isles including distrust of rich food, strict portion control, not expressing too much enjoyment of food, not askiing for or offering additional food. In my Irish-American family, I was trained never to ask for food and to always leave a small amount of the food (no matter how small the portion) on my plate out of politeness. It was wild to eat with Italian or Jewish friends and constantly be offered more, expected to eat a large amount, and expected to say how good the food was.

That’s an interesting observation. Growing up in Toronto in the 80’s (before its food culture became more cosmopolitan), restaurants were all indoors, with no patio eating, and they all had dark windows
so you couldn’t see what was going on inside. For some reason, being seen eating was considered slightly shameful.

I think it goes back to the more austere Protestant culture that used to be dominant in the northern US and Canada. Definitely a different take on communal dining compared to white ethnic, black, Hispanic, Asian etc. cultures.

Wow. The observation about Toronto in the ‘80s is fascinating. We have a summer place in Ontario that I’ve been going to since I was a child in the 70s and never heard this, though we rarely eat out, as it’s more rural. This background is why I think the idea of a cabin share in the forest sounds appealing. For the life of me though, I can’t understand why a person like OP doesn’t go eat breakfast with her small family in the forest where no ravening teens can intrude and place any demands on her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
OP, FYI it’s rude AF to cook stinky food like bacon in a shared house. You’re right that the other families shouldn’t eat your food, but you are MORE wrong for ignoring the rules of etiquette and making something smelly. It’s the equivalent of reheating fish in the office microwave.

Don’t be THAT person...

Bacon is pretty basic breakfast food--especially if camping.

They’re not camping. They’re renting a cabin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
OP, FYI it’s rude AF to cook stinky food like bacon in a shared house. You’re right that the other families shouldn’t eat your food, but you are MORE wrong for ignoring the rules of etiquette and making something smelly. It’s the equivalent of reheating fish in the office microwave.

Don’t be THAT person...

Bacon is pretty basic breakfast food--especially if camping.

They’re not camping. They’re renting a cabin.

Still pretty basic breakfast food.

[Anonymous]

We used to get invited to day parties at someone's vacation home. Usually there were 4-5 families, and everyone brought their own food. Of course, kids always wanted to eat what the other families brought. I was a kid, and it seemed to me that parents or their nannies made a game out of catching random kids eating "their" food. They would deal harshly with the culprit, of course out of earshot of the kid's parents.

This was in fact a really backwards way to do things. It's a source of strife, and it's stressful for the kids. Instead of everyone bringing their own food, why don't you all agree on who brings what *for everyone*, potluck style? If you're not willing to share, don't bring it. If you're going to be an ahole about it, decline the invitation.

This setup of not wanting other people to eat your food is controlling and toxic behavior in a communal setting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We used to get invited to day parties at someone's vacation home. Usually there were 4-5 families, and everyone brought their own food. Of course, kids always wanted to eat what the other families brought. I was a kid, and it seemed to me that parents or their nannies made a game out of catching random kids eating "their" food. They would deal harshly with the culprit, of course out of earshot of the kid's parents.

This was in fact a really backwards way to do things. It's a source of strife, and it's stressful for the kids. Instead of everyone bringing their own food, why don't you all agree on who brings what *for everyone*, potluck style? If you're not willing to share, don't bring it. If you're going to be an ahole about it, decline the invitation.

This setup of not wanting other people to eat your food is controlling and toxic behavior in a communal setting.

This is dystopic. Please tell more about the multiple family vacation spots, day parties, byof, nannies, secret scoldings. Was this in the US?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We used to get invited to day parties at someone's vacation home. Usually there were 4-5 families, and everyone brought their own food. Of course, kids always wanted to eat what the other families brought. I was a kid, and it seemed to me that parents or their nannies made a game out of catching random kids eating "their" food. They would deal harshly with the culprit, of course out of earshot of the kid's parents.

This was in fact a really backwards way to do things. It's a source of strife, and it's stressful for the kids. Instead of everyone bringing their own food, why don't you all agree on who brings what *for everyone*, potluck style? If you're not willing to share, don't bring it. If you're going to be an ahole about it, decline the invitation.

This setup of not wanting other people to eat your food is controlling and toxic behavior in a communal setting.

This is dystopic. Please tell more about the multiple family vacation spots, day parties, byof, nannies, secret scoldings. Was this in the US?

No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look OP, just bring more food. If you eat it all the extra, great, if you have leftovers, bring that home too.

You are adding unnecessary stress. Kids act like vacations are snow days and eat all the food in a day. Mine have done this. I don't vacation with other families but mine certainly do this when we go somewhere.

+1. Or so more meal planning. When we go camping, we assign breakfast and dinner to different families and we all eat together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We used to get invited to day parties at someone's vacation home. Usually there were 4-5 families, and everyone brought their own food. Of course, kids always wanted to eat what the other families brought. I was a kid, and it seemed to me that parents or their nannies made a game out of catching random kids eating "their" food. They would deal harshly with the culprit, of course out of earshot of the kid's parents.

This was in fact a really backwards way to do things. It's a source of strife, and it's stressful for the kids. Instead of everyone bringing their own food, why don't you all agree on who brings what *for everyone*, potluck style? If you're not willing to share, don't bring it. If you're going to be an ahole about it, decline the invitation.

This setup of not wanting other people to eat your food is controlling and toxic behavior in a communal setting.

This is dystopic. Please tell more about the multiple family vacation spots, day parties, byof, nannies, secret scoldings. Was this in the US?

No.

I would also like to hear more PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
OP, FYI it’s rude AF to cook stinky food like bacon in a shared house. You’re right that the other families shouldn’t eat your food, but you are MORE wrong for ignoring the rules of etiquette and making something smelly. It’s the equivalent of reheating fish in the office microwave.

Don’t be THAT person...

Bacon is pretty basic breakfast food--especially if camping.

They’re not camping. They’re renting a cabin.

Still pretty basic breakfast food.

Yes, but not the healthiest choice for breakfast. If the other families are bringing simple, healthy foods it sets up a weird dynamic to have one family cooking a greasy, somewhat smelly meal and the others eating eating healthier items.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
OP, FYI it’s rude AF to cook stinky food like bacon in a shared house. You’re right that the other families shouldn’t eat your food, but you are MORE wrong for ignoring the rules of etiquette and making something smelly. It’s the equivalent of reheating fish in the office microwave.

Don’t be THAT person...

Bacon is pretty basic breakfast food--especially if camping.

They’re not camping. They’re renting a cabin.

Still pretty basic breakfast food.

Yes, but not the healthiest choice for breakfast. If the other families are bringing simple, healthy foods it sets up a weird dynamic to have one family cooking a greasy, somewhat smelly meal and the others eating eating healthier items.

You make arrangements ahead of time. Really a box of pancakes is a few dollars and put some fruit on the side/done. You can make the pancakes in advanced.

[Anonymous]

Pancakes are just a load of carbs with sugar and butter on top. And once again the refrain why not just cook for everyone’s kids? After all we’re hung over and can’t be bothered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We used to get invited to day parties at someone's vacation home. Usually there were 4-5 families, and everyone brought their own food. Of course, kids always wanted to eat what the other families brought. I was a kid, and it seemed to me that parents or their nannies made a game out of catching random kids eating "their" food. They would deal harshly with the culprit, of course out of earshot of the kid's parents.

This is just truly bizarre. Were you members of some weird cult?

I guess you learn something new every day. On this thread I’ve learned that there is a subculture of Americans with really neurotic views of food and hospitality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We used to get invited to day parties at someone's vacation home. Usually there were 4-5 families, and everyone brought their own food. Of course, kids always wanted to eat what the other families brought. I was a kid, and it seemed to me that parents or their nannies made a game out of catching random kids eating "their" food. They would deal harshly with the culprit, of course out of earshot of the kid's parents.

This is just truly bizarre. Were you members of some weird cult?

I guess you learn something new every day. On this thread I’ve learned that there is a subculture of Americans with really neurotic views of food and hospitality.

You sound truly bizarre. How's your reading comprehension?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have read every page of this thread (I was the one indicating that it had potential). How did we get to racism?
1. I don't want to cook a lot/extra
2. That's WASP? In xyz culture we cook tons.

Is that how we got here? There are also WASP families that cook tons. And don't drink like fish!

Can we get back to solutions?
How about packing a case of candy bars and when kids ask for your breakfast just give them a candy bar. Candy > breakfast food to all kids, their parents aren't helping, and it's easily packed.

But then YOUR kids will want candy too. Dilemma....

You're the exact reason I got sucked down this rabbit hole and I thank you.

The most ridiculous thing in this thread was the WASP saying everything and anything to discredit anyone who claimed anything negative about WASPS (I'm a WASP -- gain some perspective and some self awareness "other WASP", the pp's are absolutely right!).

How can you even compare "fighting over the check" & "we usually bring hired help in to cook anyway" with other nationalities more welcoming "the more the merrier" or "there's always a seat at our table" type of viewpoint?

You can't.

One is warm and welcoming and the other is cold and distant. There were many times in my childhood where I would be envious of my Italian or Jewish friends whose families were so very welcoming during holidays.
Yes, our parents may grab the check first, but our homes were never the place friends felt comfortable hanging out over (and that went for all of my WASP friends). There was always something underneath the surface that you could tell wasn't being discussed -- swept under the rug per se for appearances.

The fact that this "other WASP" tried repeatedly to use isolation from social situations as an insult is hysterical and ridiculous, and it just proves everyone else's point and she doesn't even realize it... because she's the literal poster girl (lacking in self awareness).

Oh, the irony.

Sorry to digress PP, I just had to get it out of my system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have read every page of this thread (I was the one indicating that it had potential). How did we get to racism?
1. I don't want to cook a lot/extra
2. That's WASP? In xyz culture we cook tons.

Is that how we got here? There are also WASP families that cook tons. And don't drink like fish!

Can we get back to solutions?
How about packing a case of candy bars and when kids ask for your breakfast just give them a candy bar. Candy > breakfast food to all kids, their parents aren't helping, and it's easily packed.

But then YOUR kids will want candy too. Dilemma....

You're the exact reason I got sucked down this rabbit hole and I thank you.

The most ridiculous thing in this thread was the WASP saying everything and anything to discredit anyone who claimed anything negative about WASPS (I'm a WASP -- gain some perspective and some self awareness "other WASP", the pp's are absolutely right!).

How can you even compare "fighting over the check" & "we usually bring hired help in to cook anyway" with other nationalities more welcoming "the more the merrier" or "there's always a seat at our table" type of viewpoint?

You can't.

One is warm and welcoming and the other is cold and distant. There were many times in my childhood where I would be envious of my Italian or Jewish friends whose families were so very welcoming during holidays.
Yes, our parents may grab the check first, but our homes were never the place friends felt comfortable hanging out over (and that went for all of my WASP friends). There was always something underneath the surface that you could tell wasn't being discussed -- swept under the rug per se for appearances.

The fact that this "other WASP" tried repeatedly to use isolation from social situations as an insult is hysterical and ridiculous, and it just proves everyone else's point and she doesn't even realize it... because she's the literal poster girl (lacking in self awareness).

Oh, the irony.

Sorry to digress PP, I just had to get it out of my system.

Actually I believe the PP was saying the person bashing wasps was the crazy one. Wasn't that evident? Work on reading