Is Notre Dame screwing up?

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Anonymous wrote:Well the Ohio State study coming out found myocardial damage issues in college athletes who were thought fully recovered from covid at 15% of the cases. That’s in young, athletic and largely asymptomatic patients. Obviously then things will be worse for older folks who are already impacted by a variety of comorbidity factors.

These studies are a joke because they are looking for conditions. There is always “damage” or “inflammation after any virus. It all works out just fine. Time will tell!!

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Anonymous wrote:Well the Ohio State study coming out found myocardial damage issues in college athletes who were thought fully recovered from covid at 15% of the cases. That’s in young, athletic and largely asymptomatic patients. Obviously then things will be worse for older folks who are already impacted by a variety of comorbidity factors.

These studies are a joke because they are looking for conditions. There is always “damage” or “inflammation after any virus. It all works out just fine. Time will tell!!

Yeah. That is insane and absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if anyone dies at Notre Dame, look what happened when Declan Sullivan died, they denied they had anything to do with it, kept the coach and yep go irish

Amazing how hateful people can be...especially when they see a school actually succeeding at bring students to in person learning. Jealous much?

Of course. Any criticism must SURELY be jealousy. Because, ND supporters thrive on that thought.

Look, my kid isn't even in HS. And I hope all schools can eventually go back in person. But ND is getting it under control by locking down, something that is ending in a couple of weeks. Not only will kids be in class but football is commencing. Plus, it's going to start getting cold, more people indoors, the flu season starting, etc. LOTS of variables here. And while ND people can feel free to crow about how magnificently ND is handling things now, let's see what happens by October. Maybe it will be fine; but I think equally possible at ND and other campuses is that it will not be fine.

Grad students have been in class. in person classes for undergrads return tomorrow. Obviously you don't have any idea what is going on.

You're cute.

In grad class, in the bubble of those classes, is different than the entire university going back, on/off campus and going to football games/tailgating. But, I think you already know that and are just being contrary.

Thanks...my husband agrees with you.

As for going back to in person, that started today. First game is is next weekend. There will definitely be a spike, but now they know how to control it. They can continue to isolate and quarantine as necessary. I really think they have it figured out. Another good day. Seven day positivity down to 2.5%. Great place to start with a reopening plan. Go Irish.

Their 7 day positivity rate is a bit biased because of the way they are reporting-- they always have more cases to back-fill in data so the last 3-4 days or so in any measure don't have all the positive cases but they do have all the testing data. That's why they have all those caveats about the numbers changing posted etc. But the 7day positivity rate will always look better than it is in reality because the most recent half of it is always missing positive case data but has all the test taken data. Because by the time they fill in the new positives, the measure will include the days that only have half or so of their positives.

Adding: If you do that, their 7 day moving positivity rate would be 4.16%.

Either way, they are doing a superb job compared with other universities.

Not really. They still have more per average cases per day than many other universities and more total cumulative than a lot. There are tons of colleges and universities that are open and running with only a small handful of cases. I'm glad they have brought it down, going remote was a good decision in their case, but they are still among the more problematic ones in terms of total number of cases.

Just watch. People will be looking to ND on how to handle COVID for next semester.

Wrong. They screwed up, big time, now they’re trying to recover. Time will tell if it works or not. It is very unlikely.
People will be looking to the colleges that never screw up in the first place for how to handle next semester.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how the Irish socially distance. In high style.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEpegfZgpc0/?igshid=q5ud29c9x339

It's called Library Lawn and it is quite nice. Hope it helps keep the kids away from the parties.

https://here.nd.edu/facilities-environment/student-gathering-spaces/library-lawn/

Yes, my kids college does the same sort of activities as an attempt to keep the kids away from the parties. I asked my last year kid if they go. They said everyone knows only the quiet bookish kids go. Everyone else is at the parties.

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Anonymous wrote:Well the Ohio State study coming out found myocardial damage issues in college athletes who were thought fully recovered from covid at 15% of the cases. That’s in young, athletic and largely asymptomatic patients. Obviously then things will be worse for older folks who are already impacted by a variety of comorbidity factors.

These studies are a joke because they are looking for conditions. There is always “damage” or “inflammation after any virus. It all works out just fine. Time will tell!!

Inflammation of the heart or myocarditis isn’t a standard viral issue though some virus do cause it and it’s not no big deal!! Can lead to major issues!!

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Anonymous wrote:Well the Ohio State study coming out found myocardial damage issues in college athletes who were thought fully recovered from covid at 15% of the cases. That’s in young, athletic and largely asymptomatic patients. Obviously then things will be worse for older folks who are already impacted by a variety of comorbidity factors.

These studies are a joke because they are looking for conditions. There is always “damage” or “inflammation after any virus. It all works out just fine. Time will tell!!

Inflammation of the heart or myocarditis isn’t a standard viral issue though some virus do cause it and it’s not no big deal!! Can lead to major issues!!

You would be surprised. Lots of inflammation throughout your body from viruses. You just don't now about it because you aren't looking for it. It eventually subsides. Same with covid. But the hysteria will continue unfortunately.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if anyone dies at Notre Dame, look what happened when Declan Sullivan died, they denied they had anything to do with it, kept the coach and yep go irish

Amazing how hateful people can be...especially when they see a school actually succeeding at bring students to in person learning. Jealous much?

Of course. Any criticism must SURELY be jealousy. Because, ND supporters thrive on that thought.

Look, my kid isn't even in HS. And I hope all schools can eventually go back in person. But ND is getting it under control by locking down, something that is ending in a couple of weeks. Not only will kids be in class but football is commencing. Plus, it's going to start getting cold, more people indoors, the flu season starting, etc. LOTS of variables here. And while ND people can feel free to crow about how magnificently ND is handling things now, let's see what happens by October. Maybe it will be fine; but I think equally possible at ND and other campuses is that it will not be fine.

Grad students have been in class. in person classes for undergrads return tomorrow. Obviously you don't have any idea what is going on.

You're cute.

In grad class, in the bubble of those classes, is different than the entire university going back, on/off campus and going to football games/tailgating. But, I think you already know that and are just being contrary.

Thanks...my husband agrees with you.

As for going back to in person, that started today. First game is is next weekend. There will definitely be a spike, but now they know how to control it. They can continue to isolate and quarantine as necessary. I really think they have it figured out. Another good day. Seven day positivity down to 2.5%. Great place to start with a reopening plan. Go Irish.

Their 7 day positivity rate is a bit biased because of the way they are reporting-- they always have more cases to back-fill in data so the last 3-4 days or so in any measure don't have all the positive cases but they do have all the testing data. That's why they have all those caveats about the numbers changing posted etc. But the 7day positivity rate will always look better than it is in reality because the most recent half of it is always missing positive case data but has all the test taken data. Because by the time they fill in the new positives, the measure will include the days that only have half or so of their positives.

Adding: If you do that, their 7 day moving positivity rate would be 4.16%.

Either way, they are doing a superb job compared with other universities.

Not really. They still have more per average cases per day than many other universities and more total cumulative than a lot. There are tons of colleges and universities that are open and running with only a small handful of cases. I'm glad they have brought it down, going remote was a good decision in their case, but they are still among the more problematic ones in terms of total number of cases.

Just watch. People will be looking to ND on how to handle COVID for next semester.

Wrong. They screwed up, big time, now they’re trying to recover. Time will tell if it works or not. It is very unlikely.
People will be looking to the colleges that never screw up in the first place for how to handle next semester.

Ummm...they did recover? Their numbers are better than most universities in the country now and they came back from a huge spike. I say that is quite impressive.

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Notre Dame needs to quit screwing around and retest all students. Find out where things really stand. Do MRIs on all positive cases so people know whether or not they have damage and move forward. Right now all they are doing is pretending. They know what needs to be done. Do it.

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame needs to quit screwing around and retest all students. Find out where things really stand. Do MRIs on all positive cases so people know whether or not they have damage and move forward. Right now all they are doing is pretending. They know what needs to be done. Do it.

MRIs? Insurance doesn't pay for that for every person who has tested positive for this virus. That is not the standard of care.

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame needs to quit screwing around and retest all students. Find out where things really stand. Do MRIs on all positive cases so people know whether or not they have damage and move forward. Right now all they are doing is pretending. They know what needs to be done. Do it.

You’re insane

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame needs to quit screwing around and retest all students. Find out where things really stand. Do MRIs on all positive cases so people know whether or not they have damage and move forward. Right now all they are doing is pretending. They know what needs to be done. Do it.

LOL

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The hysteric doomers are proven wrong, again. Which gop led state or rich university will they target next.....

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Zero cases today...now that's what I call flattening the curve. Keep it up ND.

Go ahead doomers and gloomers.

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Zero cases today...now that's what I call flattening the curve. Keep it up ND.

Go ahead doomers and gloomers.

How many states have been in this position and gone right back into another spike shortly after opening up?

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Zero cases today...now that's what I call flattening the curve. Keep it up ND.

Go ahead doomers and gloomers.

How many states have been in this position and gone right back into another spike shortly after opening up?

See what I mean? Do you hope they spike PP? The sense I get is you want to say, "I told you so."

With classes just starting up this past Wednesday and this past weekend, I suspect there will be a slight uptick, but isn't it nice to start in such a strong position. Let them have a few bumps in the road...they are likely going to make it through the semester. So happy for them.