The Karen meme silences White women

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who don't understand the complete and utter lack of sympathy black women have on this subject: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/08/how-white-women-use-strategic-tears-to-avoid-accountability

This isn't about white women's tears and manipulating police. Amy Cooper is a straight-up racist, and feel free to use a non-gendered term like "racist" to describe her. BTW, I was one of the most frequent posters on the black birder thread, saying Amy Cooper was 100% in the wrong and Christ Cooper was 100% in the right. I'm the poster who sometimes identified myself as a birder, although I didn't mention that every time I posted.

This isn't about anybody, male or female, white or minority, throwing a hissy fit and cursing at store employees. Those aren't Karens--they're straight up jerks. Again, feel free to use a non-gendered term, like "aholes," to describe these people.

This IS about being able to reasonably and appropriately (as someone said above) solve problems by, if necessary and appropriate, talking to someone in charge. Yet some of you think white women of a certain age shouldn't be allowed to do that.

Except what you consider a ‘problem’ other people consider everyday life. You escalate issues when there is absolutely no need.

In 35 years I’ve talked to a manager maybe TWICE. What happened to common courtesy and a moderate tone when speaking with CSRs?

Once more. Plenty of white men do this. Plenty of minorities do this too.

Why pick on just white women? There's ZERO evidence they do this more than any other group.

Signed, I have talked to a manager exactly ONCE in my 58 years.

Then this thread isn't about you sweetie.

Oh, right! PP can talk about talking to the manager TWICE in her life, but a white woman isn't allowed to talk about going to the manager just once.

You suck. Take your misogyny and shove it.

I'm being the bigger person and walking away from your little sh!tshow.

Literally the opposite of what I said. PP can stop fretting because she would not fall into the category of what we mean by "Karen." But sure, you go #bebest

Not "literally the opposite" of anything you said.

You were talking to me both times.

First I posted that I've talked to the manager once (in response to PP who said she had done it twice). And you basically told me to STFU with your patronizing "it's not about you sweetie".

Then I pointed out your hypocrisy and you said my first post wasn't a Karen.

So why the heck were you so nasty the first time?

You're talking to multiple posters dear.

You're part of the problem, sweetie.

You're incapable of taking ownership of your own bad behavior.

Multiple people? BS. You said "literally the opposite of what I was saying," in other words, you admitted this was you.

Sweetie is condescending as well.

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who don't understand the complete and utter lack of sympathy black women have on this subject: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/08/how-white-women-use-strategic-tears-to-avoid-accountability

Speaking out against sexism is not what the article is referring to.

The article is about how white women wield their white privilege in a way that is different than white men, and in a way that gives them an easy way to deny that is what they are doing. Every woman has a story or two at least about being on the receiving end of this. You're being called out for it now, and you're all throwing a collective hissy fit.

I know I’m not a Karen but I think all women are hurt by the term. You’re welcome - I’ll be like the military and stick up for you, no matter your beliefs.

+1. I agree that white women's tears are bad. But don't use a phrase that's been extended to any middle-aged woman looking to fix a problem.

If somebody's a racist, like Amy Cooper, call them a racist.

If someone's a straight-up jerk, call them a jerk

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who don't understand the complete and utter lack of sympathy black women have on this subject: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/08/how-white-women-use-strategic-tears-to-avoid-accountability

Speaking out against sexism is not what the article is referring to.

The article is about how white women wield their white privilege in a way that is different than white men, and in a way that gives them an easy way to deny that is what they are doing. Every woman has a story or two at least about being on the receiving end of this. You're being called out for it now, and you're all throwing a collective hissy fit.

I know I’m not a Karen but I think all women are hurt by the term. You’re welcome - I’ll be like the military and stick up for you, no matter your beliefs.

You would be wrong. Plenty of woman have said they are not hurt by the term. They have also said they don’t find it racist.

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There is no difference. You post about white men and we will talk about them too (look at the Bethesda cyclist thread). And umm, you are talking to multiple people too. Duh. I didn’t post the video about the white woman tears. But I sure did prove you wrong. It’s not a tiny number (hence the Karen meme). It’s a new video posted almost daily of a white woman acting awful. It’s in the news. It’s trending on Twitter, IG and Facebook. You clearly relate to those woman, hence, you are in your feelings.

If you want to call out white men, no one is stopping you. Call them out! We will talk about them as well.

Nobody here--except you--has any desire to call out any sex or race group.

Except maybe Bethesda cyclist because that affects us directly.

You have zero evidence that white women are worse than any other sex/race group. None. It's only trending because Karen is trending--as a follower of social media, I'm sure you know how trending terms spread like wildfire.

Call a racist a racist.

Call a jerk a jerk.

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who don't understand the complete and utter lack of sympathy black women have on this subject: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/08/how-white-women-use-strategic-tears-to-avoid-accountability

Speaking out against sexism is not what the article is referring to.

The article is about how white women wield their white privilege in a way that is different than white men, and in a way that gives them an easy way to deny that is what they are doing. Every woman has a story or two at least about being on the receiving end of this. You're being called out for it now, and you're all throwing a collective hissy fit.

I know I’m not a Karen but I think all women are hurt by the term. You’re welcome - I’ll be like the military and stick up for you, no matter your beliefs.

You would be wrong. Plenty of woman have said they are not hurt by the term. They have also said they don’t find it racist.

A lot of women said they don’t like it and find it misogynistic. Don’t gaslight us. Listen to what people are saying.

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who don't understand the complete and utter lack of sympathy black women have on this subject: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/08/how-white-women-use-strategic-tears-to-avoid-accountability

Speaking out against sexism is not what the article is referring to.

The article is about how white women wield their white privilege in a way that is different than white men, and in a way that gives them an easy way to deny that is what they are doing. Every woman has a story or two at least about being on the receiving end of this. You're being called out for it now, and you're all throwing a collective hissy fit.

I know I’m not a Karen but I think all women are hurt by the term. You’re welcome - I’ll be like the military and stick up for you, no matter your beliefs.

You would be wrong. Plenty of woman have said they are not hurt by the term. They have also said they don’t find it racist.

DP. Please point us to those "plenty of women."

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who don't understand the complete and utter lack of sympathy black women have on this subject: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/08/how-white-women-use-strategic-tears-to-avoid-accountability

This isn't about white women's tears and manipulating police. Amy Cooper is a straight-up racist, and feel free to use a non-gendered term like "racist" to describe her. BTW, I was one of the most frequent posters on the black birder thread, saying Amy Cooper was 100% in the wrong and Christ Cooper was 100% in the right. I'm the poster who sometimes identified myself as a birder, although I didn't mention that every time I posted.

This isn't about anybody, male or female, white or minority, throwing a hissy fit and cursing at store employees. Those aren't Karens--they're straight up jerks. Again, feel free to use a non-gendered term, like "aholes," to describe these people.

This IS about being able to reasonably and appropriately (as someone said above) solve problems by, if necessary and appropriate, talking to someone in charge. Yet some of you think white women of a certain age shouldn't be allowed to do that.

Except what you consider a ‘problem’ other people consider everyday life. You escalate issues when there is absolutely no need.

In 35 years I’ve talked to a manager maybe TWICE. What happened to common courtesy and a moderate tone when speaking with CSRs?

Once more. Plenty of white men do this. Plenty of minorities do this too.

Why pick on just white women? There's ZERO evidence they do this more than any other group.

Signed, I have talked to a manager exactly ONCE in my 58 years.

Then this thread isn't about you sweetie.

Oh, right! PP can talk about talking to the manager TWICE in her life, but a white woman isn't allowed to talk about going to the manager just once.

You suck. Take your misogyny and shove it.

I'm being the bigger person and walking away from your little sh!tshow.

Literally the opposite of what I said. PP can stop fretting because she would not fall into the category of what we mean by "Karen." But sure, you go #bebest

Not "literally the opposite" of anything you said.

You were talking to me both times.

First I posted that I've talked to the manager once (in response to PP who said she had done it twice). And you basically told me to STFU with your patronizing "it's not about you sweetie".

Then I pointed out your hypocrisy and you said my first post wasn't a Karen.

So why the heck were you so nasty the first time?

You're talking to multiple posters dear.

You're part of the problem, sweetie.

You're incapable of taking ownership of your own bad behavior.

Multiple people? BS. You said "literally the opposite of what I was saying," in other words, you admitted this was you.

Okie doke. You don't have to believe me. Enjoy your evening!

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who don't understand the complete and utter lack of sympathy black women have on this subject: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/08/how-white-women-use-strategic-tears-to-avoid-accountability

Speaking out against sexism is not what the article is referring to.

The article is about how white women wield their white privilege in a way that is different than white men, and in a way that gives them an easy way to deny that is what they are doing. Every woman has a story or two at least about being on the receiving end of this. You're being called out for it now, and you're all throwing a collective hissy fit.

I know I’m not a Karen but I think all women are hurt by the term. You’re welcome - I’ll be like the military and stick up for you, no matter your beliefs.

You would be wrong. Plenty of woman have said they are not hurt by the term. They have also said they don’t find it racist.

A lot of women said they don’t like it and find it misogynistic. Don’t gaslight us. Listen to what people are saying.

+100. I wonder who this anti-Karen person is? A troll? An Incel member? A straight-up misogynist?

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^^ if some people find it offensive, and some don’t - better stop using it. Better not to be offensive even if you didn’t think about it or realize it was offensive. Now you’re on notice.

I hadn’t considered digital blackface as something offensive until recently but as soon as I heard - I listened & made sure I would never do it.

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who don't understand the complete and utter lack of sympathy black women have on this subject: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/08/how-white-women-use-strategic-tears-to-avoid-accountability

This isn't about white women's tears and manipulating police. Amy Cooper is a straight-up racist, and feel free to use a non-gendered term like "racist" to describe her. BTW, I was one of the most frequent posters on the black birder thread, saying Amy Cooper was 100% in the wrong and Christ Cooper was 100% in the right. I'm the poster who sometimes identified myself as a birder, although I didn't mention that every time I posted.

This isn't about anybody, male or female, white or minority, throwing a hissy fit and cursing at store employees. Those aren't Karens--they're straight up jerks. Again, feel free to use a non-gendered term, like "aholes," to describe these people.

This IS about being able to reasonably and appropriately (as someone said above) solve problems by, if necessary and appropriate, talking to someone in charge. Yet some of you think white women of a certain age shouldn't be allowed to do that.

Except what you consider a ‘problem’ other people consider everyday life. You escalate issues when there is absolutely no need.

In 35 years I’ve talked to a manager maybe TWICE. What happened to common courtesy and a moderate tone when speaking with CSRs?

Once more. Plenty of white men do this. Plenty of minorities do this too.

Why pick on just white women? There's ZERO evidence they do this more than any other group.

Signed, I have talked to a manager exactly ONCE in my 58 years.

Then this thread isn't about you sweetie.

Oh, right! PP can talk about talking to the manager TWICE in her life, but a white woman isn't allowed to talk about going to the manager just once.

You suck. Take your misogyny and shove it.

I'm being the bigger person and walking away from your little sh!tshow.

Literally the opposite of what I said. PP can stop fretting because she would not fall into the category of what we mean by "Karen." But sure, you go #bebest

Not "literally the opposite" of anything you said.

You were talking to me both times.

First I posted that I've talked to the manager once (in response to PP who said she had done it twice). And you basically told me to STFU with your patronizing "it's not about you sweetie".

Then I pointed out your hypocrisy and you said my first post wasn't a Karen.

So why the heck were you so nasty the first time?

You're talking to multiple posters dear.

You're part of the problem, sweetie.

You're incapable of taking ownership of your own bad behavior.

Multiple people? BS. You said "literally the opposite of what I was saying," in other words, you admitted this was you.

Sweetie is condescending as well.

NP. Bless your heart

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You're part of the problem, sweetie.

You're incapable of taking ownership of your own bad behavior.

Multiple people? BS. You said "literally the opposite of what I was saying," in other words, you admitted this was you.

Okie doke. You don't have to believe me. Enjoy your evening!

Totally willing to believe you. But which "you" should we believe? The you who said "Literally the opposite of what I said"? Or the you who said you never made the post referred to in your "Literally the opposite of what I said" post?

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Sweetie is condescending as well.

NP. Bless your heart

DP. Didn't you know? PP can be as condescending as s/he wants. And s/he certainly was condescending and patronizing. But as soon as a suspected white woman uses the word "sweetie," the Karen zombies are taking over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the OP, not a troll. And an example of when I might have spoken in the past but did not recently. I ordered curbside pick up from a local smoothie shop a few weeks ago, before we were in phase 1 opening, the restaurant was advertising curbside Pick-up. I ordered my smoothie online, however, When I drove to the shop to pick it up there are a line of people inside the store to order and a line waiting (Inside as well) at the counter to pick up their smoothies. A year ago if this happened, pre-Karen meme, I would have said something along the lines of aren’t we supposed to be doing curbside? Why is everybody in the store? This time I just walked away.

OMG...what a Karen!

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You're part of the problem, sweetie.

You're incapable of taking ownership of your own bad behavior.

Multiple people? BS. You said "literally the opposite of what I was saying," in other words, you admitted this was you.

Okie doke. You don't have to believe me. Enjoy your evening!

Totally willing to believe you. But which "you" should we believe? The you who said "Literally the opposite of what I said"? Or the you who said you never made the post referred to in your "Literally the opposite of what I said" post?

I don't even know what you're flipping out over at this point. All I said was that given your post about only asking to speak to a manager once in all your years, that this thread is not about people like you. And you Lost. Your. Sh!t. I really don't know what I did to deserve your ire, but I'm really not that concerned. You can continue insulting me and calling me names over...being called Karen? This is all just so ridiculous, but I can't say I'm surprised. 35 pages of #whitepanic

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You're part of the problem, sweetie.

You're incapable of taking ownership of your own bad behavior.

Multiple people? BS. You said "literally the opposite of what I was saying," in other words, you admitted this was you.

Okie doke. You don't have to believe me. Enjoy your evening!

Totally willing to believe you. But which "you" should we believe? The you who said "Literally the opposite of what I said"? Or the you who said you never made the post referred to in your "Literally the opposite of what I said" post?

I don't even know what you're flipping out over at this point. All I said was that given your post about only asking to speak to a manager once in all your years, that this thread is not about people like you. And you Lost. Your. Sh!t. I really don't know what I did to deserve your ire, but I'm really not that concerned. You can continue insulting me and calling me names over...being called Karen? This is all just so ridiculous, but I can't say I'm surprised. 35 pages of #whitepanic

You're busted for hypocrisy and pot stirring. Sorry if that bugs you.