Superbowl halftime - scantily dressed women and very covered up men

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Anonymous wrote:I was conflicted.

Both women are beautiful and in amazing shape. They have every right to perform as they see fit, and the performance was undeniably entertaining. I loved Shakira and but thought that J-Lo's performance was not as good. I also felt it was too overtly sexual for my taste. But that's just me. I guess I don't see over the top sexuality as empowerment.

The reaction of my 14 year old son was interesting. He found the show to be "confusing" and "uncomfortable." He said that they talk constantly at school about not objectifying women, but he thought that the performers were objectifying themselves. We had the usual "it is never ok to touch"conversation and I emphasized that dress or dance don't mean that a woman is "slutty." Each woman can present herself as she sees fit. He gets that. But his very sincere question was basically why, if women don't want to be viewed for their body parts, do they choose to put them on display in such an in your face way? He said, in not exactly these words, that it was almost like you couldn't see each as a talented performer because the emphasis was on body parts.

This is what you should say to your son... stop sexualizing women, their dress does not cause that. Dancers... ballarinas, trapeze artists, volley ball players... they wear very little/tight/revealing clothes. Stop making the outfit about sex. That is something that he is choosing to do. Belly Dancers move the same way... if you choose to think about sex when they dance that is on you. His reaction is extremely immature.

They are not in your face, it is his choice to sexualize a woman based on how she is dressed. He can choose better and his actions and reactions are his own, not caused by others.

They did not emphasize body parts HE emphasized body parts, he missed the art/athleticism/talent... that is on him.

Seriously??? You are insane. This is why young men can't figure the world out. No way. They emphasized their body parts, they opted to have bare butts, to use a strip pole. J Lo's entire performance was about sex.

It is completely different from athletes and we have had extensive discussions about this. Context matters. Just as it is appropriate for a woman to use pole dancing, it would not be appropriate for an elementary school teacher to demonstrate her fitness skills for her class.

Seriously? YOU are insane.

My kids do not look at them and think sex ... they think athleticism, amazing dancing, great music, fun, entertaining.

Yes, context matters... this was not a stip club, this was a athletic show. She shows how athletic she is, how amazing she can dance and entertain.

Nobody was thinking sex... except for a bunch of boys with moms who have taught them a woman's body is only for sex.

Humans are sexual beings. I highly doubt your teens will never look at a human with any sexual interest or have any sexual desires. The human race would have died out eons ago if men didn't look at women are sexual beings. People can choose to emphasize or not emphasize the sexual side of themselves in how they present themselves. This can be done through words, outfits, dance moves etc. If someone wants to be sexualized and acts in a very sexualized way, there is nothing wrong with them being sexualized. Tons of people were thinking about sex. That is human nature. You seem completely void of common sense. Thinking about someone's body in a sexual way when they are putting themselves out there in a sexual way doesn't mean that woman's body is only about sex it just means that at that moment that is focus they are presenting.

If you don't get it you will not get it. You were socialized to believe that anytime a curvy woman of color moves her hips and wears less clothes... it is about sex.

It is so deeply ingrained in your subconscious you don't even see that is a learned response you can unlearn if you choose to do so.

This is why women can go topless elsewhere and not be sexualized, because their society did not teach people to sexualize everything.

You just will never get it.

My teens do not equate a 1/2 time show with sex. They know J.Lo and Shakira are at a job and doing a damn amazing job. NO. They did not sexualize them.

My kids can appreciate an amazing looking body without making it about sex. Plus J.Lo is f'ing 50 you think teens are sexualizing moms... gross, what is wrong with you and your kid.

JLo was sexualizing herself. Plain and simple. If you don't see that, you really are naive. Any person (regardless of color) wearing next to nothing and gyrating/dancing provocatively is going to make people think of sex. That's not a socialized thing, it's an instinctual thing. We are animals at our base designed to reproduce. Certain cues are going to signal that, that's human nature. You really are dense if you can't see the association.

No. Not everybody is triggered by dancing women. You have serious issues if you can't see dancers and athletes in less clothes without sexualizing them.

If you can’t see the difference between a gymnast in a small tight leotard performing a floor routine then sitting on the sidelines waiting for her next event, and JLo pole dancing, grabbing her crotch, and literally mimicking sex, then there is no rational conversation to be had here.

Exactly!

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Re: JLo - Did you see the commercial she was in chasing DJ Khalid? More importantly: did you see the part when she was running? Hilarious!

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Lots of triggered overweight women in this thread

Yep, frumpy with that "Let me speak to your manager" haircut

With Lululemon pants and a raggedy college sweatshirt.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Lots of triggered overweight women in this thread

That and they’re racist. Triggered because they’re Latina and they dye their hair? What is this, 1950?

They want good wholesome Rock and Roll... like the Rolling Stones, the Who and Blues Brothers.. can't we just have good old fashion drug addicts... most of whom have had band members die of overdoses.

and perpetrated sexual assault

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Do posters understand that Shakira was wearing an outfit similar to her character's in Zootopia? The red one.

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Anonymous wrote:Do posters understand that Shakira was wearing an outfit similar to her character's in Zootopia? The red one.

That was my favorite of all the costumes.

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Anonymous wrote:It's 2020, these are professional, talented, established women. So why do they need to perform in lingerie?

The tragedy is that they brought together two amazing Latina artists just to perform some stupid generic Las Vegas routine.

#shame

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was fantastic.

It was very empowering. Don’t go by the old farts on DCUM.

Old fart JLo was wearing diapers.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Lots of triggered overweight women in this thread

Yep, frumpy with that "Let me speak to your manager" haircut

Haha! Perfect description

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Lots of triggered overweight women in this thread

Yep, frumpy with that "Let me speak to your manager" haircut

Lol. Lots of "Karen"s in here.

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We turned it off. Definitely not appropriate for kids...NOT appropriate for adults either.

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Anonymous wrote:We turned it off. Definitely not appropriate for kids...NOT appropriate for adults either.

But you thought all the beer commercials and athletes bashing into each were appropriate?

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Anonymous wrote:We turned it off. Definitely not appropriate for kids...NOT appropriate for adults either.

37 pages of triggered Karen's. LULZ!

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Anonymous wrote:Do posters understand that Shakira was wearing an outfit similar to her character's in Zootopia? The red one.

Of course not, they didn't really understand much about the performance.

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Anonymous wrote:Months of planning went into this show. Every single detail was intentional. They put on a high energy, fun performance. It's the Superbowl halftime show, ffs, what would Becky and Karen and Jimbo prefer to see?

Barbara Streisand+Bette Midler.

That show only works if Becky, Karen and Jimbo are gay.

If they were gay, they would have loved JLo's performance. That sh*t was straight out of the gay club and not the strip club.

True. True. It was lit!

Right and how many things from the gay club would you like your kids to see?