9th Grade Muslim student arrested for making a homemade clock fro school project

[Anonymous]

I'm late to the party but has anyone actually considered that being Muslim had nothing to do with it?

My history teacher's (white) son was arrested for making a "bomb" as a senior prank. I think Steve Wozniak (co founder of Apple) was too.

They were never invited to the white house, asked for interviews etc.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:I'm late to the party but has anyone actually considered that being Muslim had nothing to do with it?

My history teacher's (white) son was arrested for making a "bomb" as a senior prank. I think Steve Wozniak (co founder of Apple) was too.

They were never invited to the white house, asked for interviews etc.

Surprisingly, in the previous 36 pages of discussion, nobody thought of that. Also, Ahmed didn't make a bomb and nobody involved thought it was a bomb.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm late to the party but has anyone actually considered that being Muslim had nothing to do with it?

My history teacher's (white) son was arrested for making a "bomb" as a senior prank. I think Steve Wozniak (co founder of Apple) was too.

They were never invited to the white house, asked for interviews etc.

Surprisingly, in the previous 36 pages of discussion, nobody thought of that. Also, Ahmed didn't make a bomb and nobody involved thought it was a bomb.

You read all 36 pages? High time to get a hobby methinks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm late to the party but has anyone actually considered that being Muslim had nothing to do with it?

My history teacher's (white) son was arrested for making a "bomb" as a senior prank. I think Steve Wozniak (co founder of Apple) was too.

They were never invited to the white house, asked for interviews etc.

Surprisingly, in the previous 36 pages of discussion, nobody thought of that. Also, Ahmed didn't make a bomb and nobody involved thought it was a bomb.

You read all 36 pages? High time to get a hobby methinks

I believe this website is actually Jeff Steele's job.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm late to the party but has anyone actually considered that being Muslim had nothing to do with it?

My history teacher's (white) son was arrested for making a "bomb" as a senior prank. I think Steve Wozniak (co founder of Apple) was too.

They were never invited to the white house, asked for interviews etc.

Surprisingly, in the previous 36 pages of discussion, nobody thought of that. Also, Ahmed didn't make a bomb and nobody involved thought it was a bomb.

You read all 36 pages? High time to get a hobby methinks

I have plenty of hobbies. Reading messages is my job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm late to the party but has anyone actually considered that being Muslim had nothing to do with it?

My history teacher's (white) son was arrested for making a "bomb" as a senior prank. I think Steve Wozniak (co founder of Apple) was too.

They were never invited to the white house, asked for interviews etc.

Well Steve Wozniak got some giant-ass batteries that looked like dynamite and strapped it to a metronome. Then he rigged it so it would tick faster after someone opened the locker it was sitting in.

In other words, Wozniak ACTUALLY AND INTENTIONALLY BUILT A FAKE BOMB. So of course he got arrested.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm late to the party but has anyone actually considered that being Muslim had nothing to do with it?

My history teacher's (white) son was arrested for making a "bomb" as a senior prank. I think Steve Wozniak (co founder of Apple) was too.

They were never invited to the white house, asked for interviews etc.

Well Steve Wozniak got some giant-ass batteries that looked like dynamite and strapped it to a metronome. Then he rigged it so it would tick faster after someone opened the locker it was sitting in.

In other words, Wozniak ACTUALLY AND INTENTIONALLY BUILT A FAKE BOMB. So of course he got arrested.

Do you have a point or not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm late to the party but has anyone actually considered that being Muslim had nothing to do with it?

My history teacher's (white) son was arrested for making a "bomb" as a senior prank. I think Steve Wozniak (co founder of Apple) was too.

They were never invited to the white house, asked for interviews etc.

Well Steve Wozniak got some giant-ass batteries that looked like dynamite and strapped it to a metronome. Then he rigged it so it would tick faster after someone opened the locker it was sitting in.

In other words, Wozniak ACTUALLY AND INTENTIONALLY BUILT A FAKE BOMB. So of course he got arrested.

Do you have a point or not

Yes. My point is that Wozniak made a fake explosive charge and strapped it to a timer. do you not see how that materially affects the decision to arrest the kid?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm late to the party but has anyone actually considered that being Muslim had nothing to do with it?

My history teacher's (white) son was arrested for making a "bomb" as a senior prank. I think Steve Wozniak (co founder of Apple) was too.

They were never invited to the white house, asked for interviews etc.

Surprisingly, in the previous 36 pages of discussion, nobody thought of that. Also, Ahmed didn't make a bomb and nobody involved thought it was a bomb.

And, unlike your history teacher's white son who intentionally pulled a prank, Ahmed never pulled a prank and never represented it to anyone as anything other than a clock.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To add to the above (I'm the PP), this is an article about an electrician seeing a single loose wire, which he thought unusual:

“We were just trouble shooting,” Charlotin said. “One wire didn’t attach to a light. . . . I was expecting a light.”

Charlotin’s find led police to the device, plastered into a bedroom closet and wired to explode when a light switch was flipped in the single-family home. A bomb squad safely disarmed the device, which authorities described as a plastic jug filled with accelerant

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/03/25/electrician-helped-lead-authorities-incendiary-device-milton-home/KBBYLwDBprb4Tn0gfshZHO/story.html

Remember that the Columbine shooters worked in tandem. It's not only lone individuals that police have to worry about. The family was well-known in the area due to the father's activist behavior, which is why one of the officers reportedly said something to the effect that he wasn't surprised it at who he was called to interview.

Wow, just amazing the conspiracies you can come up with based on bits and pieces of information taken from widely disparate events that have nothing to do with this kid.

And you have no proof as to why the officer said he wasn't surprised it was this kid. You don't know why he said it at all. But go on and spin ridiculous theories if it makes you happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm late to the party but has anyone actually considered that being Muslim had nothing to do with it?

My history teacher's (white) son was arrested for making a "bomb" as a senior prank. I think Steve Wozniak (co founder of Apple) was too.

They were never invited to the white house, asked for interviews etc.

Well Steve Wozniak got some giant-ass batteries that looked like dynamite and strapped it to a metronome. Then he rigged it so it would tick faster after someone opened the locker it was sitting in.

In other words, Wozniak ACTUALLY AND INTENTIONALLY BUILT A FAKE BOMB. So of course he got arrested.

Do you have a point or not

Yes. My point is that Wozniak made a fake explosive charge and strapped it to a timer. do you not see how that materially affects the decision to arrest the kid?

Why? Cuz the cops said, hey, Wozniak made a fake bomb so let's arrest this kid? Because of course the police carefully study the history of any famous person who plays a prank.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm late to the party but has anyone actually considered that being Muslim had nothing to do with it?

My history teacher's (white) son was arrested for making a "bomb" as a senior prank. I think Steve Wozniak (co founder of Apple) was too.

They were never invited to the white house, asked for interviews etc.

Well Steve Wozniak got some giant-ass batteries that looked like dynamite and strapped it to a metronome. Then he rigged it so it would tick faster after someone opened the locker it was sitting in.

In other words, Wozniak ACTUALLY AND INTENTIONALLY BUILT A FAKE BOMB. So of course he got arrested.

Do you have a point or not

Yes. My point is that Wozniak made a fake explosive charge and strapped it to a timer. do you not see how that materially affects the decision to arrest the kid?

Why? Cuz the cops said, hey, Wozniak made a fake bomb so let's arrest this kid? Because of course the police carefully study the history of any famous person who plays a prank.

You are confusing posters. I was saying "do you not see how that materially affects the decision to arrest the kid (Wozniak)"

He faked an explosive charge. Of course he got arrested. In contrast, this kid built a clock, called it a clock, and never displayed anything that appeared to contain explosive.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm late to the party but has anyone actually considered that being Muslim had nothing to do with it?

My history teacher's (white) son was arrested for making a "bomb" as a senior prank. I think Steve Wozniak (co founder of Apple) was too.

They were never invited to the white house, asked for interviews etc.

Surprisingly, in the previous 36 pages of discussion, nobody thought of that. Also, Ahmed didn't make a bomb and nobody involved thought it was a bomb.

Someone at the school called the cops. Too bad they can't say why they took it that far. Could be zero tolerance, could be for what they suspected was a hoax bomb.

So you really can't say what the school thought and what they didn't think because they can't talk. All we apparently have is Ahmed's story and a bit of the police officers story, but the police can only say so much as well. So I guess we are to believe, as the father said, that the boy was tortured? Tortured is a mighty strong word. Wonder if they water boarded?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To add to the above (I'm the PP), this is an article about an electrician seeing a single loose wire, which he thought unusual:

“We were just trouble shooting,” Charlotin said. “One wire didn’t attach to a light. . . . I was expecting a light.”

Charlotin’s find led police to the device, plastered into a bedroom closet and wired to explode when a light switch was flipped in the single-family home. A bomb squad safely disarmed the device, which authorities described as a plastic jug filled with accelerant

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/03/25/electrician-helped-lead-authorities-incendiary-device-milton-home/KBBYLwDBprb4Tn0gfshZHO/story.html

Remember that the Columbine shooters worked in tandem. It's not only lone individuals that police have to worry about. The family was well-known in the area due to the father's activist behavior, which is why one of the officers reportedly said something to the effect that he wasn't surprised it at who he was called to interview.

That is an extraordinarily interesting case that has pretty much nothing to do with this situation.

It seems your point in posting the above, PP, is to say that "wires can be suspicious because you can hook them up to things to make them explode."

In the story above, an electrician was investigating the wiring of a house, and noticed one wire that did not lead to a light. Instead, it lead to a deeply hidden plastic jub filled with some accelerant."

So -- it was a wire connecting a source of electricty to something that would burn or explode. YES -- you got it, that is how wires can be very dangerous!

But a wire that goes from a battery to a LED display? With NO accelerant? This is called a "clock". Or if you prefer, a "non explosive clock".

Other examples of non -explosive electical wires found in a school are:

1) clocks (they hang them on the wall, and have scary wire thingies inside them... did you ever look?)
2) computers
3) calculators
4) smart boards
5) DVD players
6)TVs
7) Ipods
8_ Ipads
9) laptop computers

the list of non explody things with wires that are NOT connected to accellerants in schools is actually pretty large! So frankly, ANYONE could be working "in tandem" with a terrorist kid to hook up a timer to an exlody thingy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To add to the above (I'm the PP), this is an article about an electrician seeing a single loose wire, which he thought unusual:

“We were just trouble shooting,” Charlotin said. “One wire didn’t attach to a light. . . . I was expecting a light.”

Charlotin’s find led police to the device, plastered into a bedroom closet and wired to explode when a light switch was flipped in the single-family home. A bomb squad safely disarmed the device, which authorities described as a plastic jug filled with accelerant

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/03/25/electrician-helped-lead-authorities-incendiary-device-milton-home/KBBYLwDBprb4Tn0gfshZHO/story.html

Remember that the Columbine shooters worked in tandem. It's not only lone individuals that police have to worry about. The family was well-known in the area due to the father's activist behavior, which is why one of the officers reportedly said something to the effect that he wasn't surprised it at who he was called to interview.

Wow, just amazing the conspiracies you can come up with based on bits and pieces of information taken from widely disparate events that have nothing to do with this kid.

And you have no proof as to why the officer said he wasn't surprised it was this kid. You don't know why he said it at all. But go on and spin ridiculous theories if it makes you happy.

See, that's the problem. It's not really a conspiracy theory. It's how military and cops think in these kinds of situations - you have to look at things from all angles. Imagine if that electrician had not decided to have that wire investigated. Imagine if the cops just said "bah, loose wire, so what?"

If I have no proof as to why the officer said what he did, why do you? Everyone is jumping immediately to Islamophobia. How do you know that's what it was - for sure? You don't, because the school is gagged.