20 victims reported at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis

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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.


No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.


Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.


The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.


For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.


For the last time. Not all shooters are trans. Have a friend who knew a kid who died at Sandy Hook. Have a brother who shopped the grocery store of the Buffalo shooting.

Stop. Cutting. Mental. Health. Funding.

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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.


No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.


Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.


The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.


For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.


DP. Are you advocating for institutionalizing all people who identify as trans?


NP. The world would be a safer place if they were institutionalized for their mental illness. Instead, we celebrate it like it’s something to be proud of.

That’s why we ended up with groups like transtifa.


Then what do we do about all of the mass shooters who aren’t trans? (That would be most of them.)


Start educating the public about the dangerous prescription drugs they were on. Those people were just as crazy and super medicated. They should also have been institutionalized for their mental disorders.
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Anonymous wrote:As an elementary school teacher, it broke my heart to see the kids being interviewed and struck me how they were not at all surprised that this happened to them. Our kids are growing up expecting to go through an active shooter situation at school.

We are breeding the next generation of domestic terrorists.


+1 How can this be the world we leave to our children?

It's only the "world" in the US. Other civilized countries don't have this issue.

I've told my kids who have dual citizenship with a European country to seriously think about moving there if they have kids. The US is a horrible place to raise children.

My friend moved to Portugal with her family, including little kids. They never ever worry about school shootings, or shootings anywhere.


The EU never followed the idiotic “deinstitutionalization” (or closing every in-patient mental hospital) the way the U.S. did, starting in the 1960s.

We have obviously mentally-unstable people screaming in the streets here, and no one will do anything about it. Europe does not have that problem.

It is the mental illness.

Europe has mentally ill people on the streets. They have knife attacks by crazy people. What they don't have is a gun culture and easy access to guns. That's the problem.
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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.


No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.


Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.


The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.


For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.


DP. Are you advocating for institutionalizing all people who identify as trans?


NP. The world would be a safer place if they were institutionalized for their mental illness. Instead, we celebrate it like it’s something to be proud of.

That’s why we ended up with groups like transtifa.


Then what do we do about all of the mass shooters who aren’t trans? (That would be most of them.)

+1 The solution is to not allow males to own guns since the vast majority of mass shooters are male.
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Anonymous wrote:As an elementary school teacher, it broke my heart to see the kids being interviewed and struck me how they were not at all surprised that this happened to them. Our kids are growing up expecting to go through an active shooter situation at school.

We are breeding the next generation of domestic terrorists.


+1 How can this be the world we leave to our children?

It's only the "world" in the US. Other civilized countries don't have this issue.

I've told my kids who have dual citizenship with a European country to seriously think about moving there if they have kids. The US is a horrible place to raise children.

My friend moved to Portugal with her family, including little kids. They never ever worry about school shootings, or shootings anywhere.


That is one of the pleasures of traveling to many areas outside of the United States. You can relax about gun crime. Many places, the huge concern is things like pickpocketing. It's really nice.
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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.


No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.


Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.


The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.


For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.


For the last time. Not all shooters are trans. Have a friend who knew a kid who died at Sandy Hook. Have a brother who shopped the grocery store of the Buffalo shooting.

Stop. Cutting. Mental. Health. Funding.



What do you mean by mental health funding? Doesn’t that just go right back to promoting “gender affirming” care?

That seems like it would be counterproductive.
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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.


No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.


Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.


The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.


For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.


DP. Are you advocating for institutionalizing all people who identify as trans?


NP. The world would be a safer place if they were institutionalized for their mental illness. Instead, we celebrate it like it’s something to be proud of.

That’s why we ended up with groups like transtifa.


Then what do we do about all of the mass shooters who aren’t trans? (That would be most of them.)

+1 The solution is to not allow males to own guns since the vast majority of mass shooters are male.


This is the only thing that would actually work.
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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.


No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.


Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.


The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.


For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.


DP. Are you advocating for institutionalizing all people who identify as trans?


NP. The world would be a safer place if they were institutionalized for their mental illness. Instead, we celebrate it like it’s something to be proud of.

That’s why we ended up with groups like transtifa.


Then what do we do about all of the mass shooters who aren’t trans? (That would be most of them.)

+1 The solution is to not allow males to own guns since the vast majority of mass shooters are male.


Still wouldn’t have helped here because the murderer was “female”.
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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.


No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.


Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.


The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.


For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.


DP. Are you advocating for institutionalizing all people who identify as trans?


NP. The world would be a safer place if they were institutionalized for their mental illness. Instead, we celebrate it like it’s something to be proud of.

That’s why we ended up with groups like transtifa.


Then what do we do about all of the mass shooters who aren’t trans? (That would be most of them.)


Start educating the public about the dangerous prescription drugs they were on. Those people were just as crazy and super medicated. They should also have been institutionalized for their mental disorders.


So you’re going to round up all of the trans people and all of the troubled people taking SSRIs and put them in institutions, do I have this right?
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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.


No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.


Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.


The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.


For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.


For the last time. Not all shooters are trans. Have a friend who knew a kid who died at Sandy Hook. Have a brother who shopped the grocery store of the Buffalo shooting.

Stop. Cutting. Mental. Health. Funding.



What do you mean by mental health funding? Doesn’t that just go right back to promoting “gender affirming” care?

That seems like it would be counterproductive.


No.
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Firearm ownership is an enumerated Constitutional right, not a “privilege.”

birthright citizenship is also an enumerated Constitutional right, but that doesn't seem to stop Trump and MAGA from wanting to overturn it.

Why don't we go down the list of what amendments no longer applies. We can start with 2a.


There’s a vast gulf between “wanting” and “getting” and birthright citizenship does not seem to be going anywhere, nor is the Second Amendment.
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Where did he live?
Who did he live with?
Where did he work?
How did he get the funds to buy all the guns and ammo?
Did he go to school?

Did anybody he came in contact with see any red flags?
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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma


It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???


It’s also dumb that teens can’t vape or smoke until 18 or drink till they’re 21 because alcohol is considered a mind altering drug yet they can take SSRI’s or completely change their gender with puberty blockers while underage.

Teens are already mentally not all the way there so imagine with medication


You can’t drink until 21 but you can buy a gun at 18.

Guns should require a safety class and test (like driving lessons) that come with a cost and parental and medical provider sign-off before anyone gets close to having the privilege to buy a gun.


This is the solution! A start. Banning firearms is the end goal, but this is what we do as soon as we have a real leader in the USA. Or even on state level in states with sensible lawmakers.


Why not just start with the end goal? Don’t you even care about all the people who will still die getting from your “start point” to the end goal? What about them? Don’t they matter? You’re willing to sacrifice them to incremental progress?

That’s F’d up.


Firearms cannot be banned. Not lawfully. Not practically. It is a reality-denying confabulation to insist on magical solutions while ignoring the root causes of psychopathy and criminal violence.
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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.


No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.


Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.


The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.


For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.


DP. Are you advocating for institutionalizing all people who identify as trans?


NP. The world would be a safer place if they were institutionalized for their mental illness. Instead, we celebrate it like it’s something to be proud of.

That’s why we ended up with groups like transtifa.


Wait we can put all of MAGA in an institution? I'm in.


Yeah, they seem mentally ill to me. Throw them in there.
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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.


No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.


Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.


The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.


For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.


DP. Are you advocating for institutionalizing all people who identify as trans?


NP. The world would be a safer place if they were institutionalized for their mental illness. Instead, we celebrate it like it’s something to be proud of.

That’s why we ended up with groups like transtifa.


Wait we can put all of MAGA in an institution? I'm in.


Yeah, they seem mentally ill to me. Throw them in there.


Can you find two medical professionals to agree with you?
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