20 victims reported at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the discussion of how to fund hospitals for the mentally ill...

Roughly between 2007 and 2003, the number of gender clinics increased in the US from a handful to over 300. Where was the money coming from to create all those gender clinics?

Why isn't that same money being poured into funding mental hospitals/mental health care?

Everyone talks about how there is no money to fund mental health care. But how is there money for gender clinics?

NYC mayoral candidate Mamdani is proposing an investment in gender-affirming care. Doesn't he want to offer free gender affirming care to anyone - regardless if they are NYC residents? Again, where is that money coming from? Why can't that money go to mental health care instead? Where would he get the money to invest in gender-affirming care? Why is he making that part of his platform and not saying we are going to invest in mental health care?

Anyone who has teenagers and sees what is going on in schools - it is undeniable that trans and mental health issues are so closely intertwined. Can you imagine if all the time, effort and money put into gender affirming stuff was instead devoted to mental health care?


There’s a LOT of $$$ to be made in gender affirming care over each patient’s lifetime. This isn’t a one-and-done procedure. This is a lifetime of medical management and treatment. An entire ecosystem of medical professionals that exists to treat and maintain this artificial state created in the patient. All funded by insurance companies or by state or federal healthcare providers.

The reason the numbers of these clinics exploded from a handful 20 years ago to hundreds now, is because investors (VC, HF’s,etc) saw the potential ROI from giving these clinics funding to get started, knowing the patients these clinics would be treating will be lifetime customers.

There is deep, deep evil on sooooo many levels associated with this whole gender affirming care nonsense. It’s well beyond just the surface evil of taking advantage of mentally ill people with dysmorphia.


Good point:

- when things do not make obvious sense, follow the money.
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Firearm ownership is an enumerated Constitutional right, not a “privilege.”

birthright citizenship is also an enumerated Constitutional right, but that doesn't seem to stop Trump and MAGA from wanting to overturn it.

Why don't we go down the list of what amendments no longer applies. We can start with 2a.
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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma


It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???


It’s also dumb that teens can’t vape or smoke until 18 or drink till they’re 21 because alcohol is considered a mind altering drug yet they can take SSRI’s or completely change their gender with puberty blockers while underage.

Teens are already mentally not all the way there so imagine with medication


You can’t drink until 21 but you can buy a gun at 18.

Guns should require a safety class and test (like driving lessons) that come with a cost and parental and medical provider sign-off before anyone gets close to having the privilege to buy a gun.


This is the solution! A start. Banning firearms is the end goal, but this is what we do as soon as we have a real leader in the USA. Or even on state level in states with sensible lawmakers.


Why not just start with the end goal? Don’t you even care about all the people who will still die getting from your “start point” to the end goal? What about them? Don’t they matter? You’re willing to sacrifice them to incremental progress?

That’s F’d up.
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Anonymous wrote:As an elementary school teacher, it broke my heart to see the kids being interviewed and struck me how they were not at all surprised that this happened to them. Our kids are growing up expecting to go through an active shooter situation at school.

We are breeding the next generation of domestic terrorists.


+1 How can this be the world we leave to our children?

It's only the "world" in the US. Other civilized countries don't have this issue.

I've told my kids who have dual citizenship with a European country to seriously think about moving there if they have kids. The US is a horrible place to raise children.

My friend moved to Portugal with her family, including little kids. They never ever worry about school shootings, or shootings anywhere.
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Anonymous wrote:Back to the discussion of how to fund hospitals for the mentally ill...

Roughly between 2007 and 2003, the number of gender clinics increased in the US from a handful to over 300. Where was the money coming from to create all those gender clinics?

Why isn't that same money being poured into funding mental hospitals/mental health care?

Everyone talks about how there is no money to fund mental health care. But how is there money for gender clinics?

NYC mayoral candidate Mamdani is proposing an investment in gender-affirming care. Doesn't he want to offer free gender affirming care to anyone - regardless if they are NYC residents? Again, where is that money coming from? Why can't that money go to mental health care instead? Where would he get the money to invest in gender-affirming care? Why is he making that part of his platform and not saying we are going to invest in mental health care?

Anyone who has teenagers and sees what is going on in schools - it is undeniable that trans and mental health issues are so closely intertwined. Can you imagine if all the time, effort and money put into gender affirming stuff was instead devoted to mental health care?


It was donated by extremely wealthy ex-men (Rothblatt, Pritzker, etc.) who are interested in trans humanism and want to rebuild the world in their image. They have zero interest in donating money to actually improve society.
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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.


No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.


Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.
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Anonymous wrote:As an elementary school teacher, it broke my heart to see the kids being interviewed and struck me how they were not at all surprised that this happened to them. Our kids are growing up expecting to go through an active shooter situation at school.

We are breeding the next generation of domestic terrorists.


+1 How can this be the world we leave to our children?


Because we all care more about retirement funds and careers than our community.
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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.


No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.


Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.


The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.
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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.


No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.


Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.



+1 republicans are not the least bit interested in paying more taxes, and democrats literally require social problems to justify their very existence.


That people can’t see this is maddening.
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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


They staffed them with the dregs of society. People who got off on torture.

The institutions were closed for a reason - the whole system was beyond reform.



They were closed because Reagan wanted to cut government spending. This was in the old days, when Republicans were somewhat normal and stood for fiscal responsibility.


NP. You seem very ignorant of the investigative reporting that was going on at the time about conditions in the asylums.

I’ve come to the conclusion that anyone who attributes the asylum closures solely to Reagan is not very well educated.


And by inference you seem extremely naive about the cold realities of living on the street. Both are not places I wouldn’t want to live, but at least society at large is safeguarded when mentally ill people aren’t on the streets.


The problem is that someone is always making money from schemes like that and they will try to slowly increase the number of people who are “needing” treatment to the point where anyone that is not “normal” is at risk of being institutionalized against their own will. YOU might not have any empathy for someone in that situation but many of us do.
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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.


No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.


Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.


The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.


For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.
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Anonymous wrote:Back to the discussion of how to fund hospitals for the mentally ill...

Roughly between 2007 and 2003, the number of gender clinics increased in the US from a handful to over 300. Where was the money coming from to create all those gender clinics?

Why isn't that same money being poured into funding mental hospitals/mental health care?

Everyone talks about how there is no money to fund mental health care. But how is there money for gender clinics?

NYC mayoral candidate Mamdani is proposing an investment in gender-affirming care. Doesn't he want to offer free gender affirming care to anyone - regardless if they are NYC residents? Again, where is that money coming from? Why can't that money go to mental health care instead? Where would he get the money to invest in gender-affirming care? Why is he making that part of his platform and not saying we are going to invest in mental health care?

Anyone who has teenagers and sees what is going on in schools - it is undeniable that trans and mental health issues are so closely intertwined. Can you imagine if all the time, effort and money put into gender affirming stuff was instead devoted to mental health care?


There’s a LOT of $$$ to be made in gender affirming care over each patient’s lifetime. This isn’t a one-and-done procedure. This is a lifetime of medical management and treatment. An entire ecosystem of medical professionals that exists to treat and maintain this artificial state created in the patient. All funded by insurance companies or by state or federal healthcare providers.

The reason the numbers of these clinics exploded from a handful 20 years ago to hundreds now, is because investors (VC, HF’s,etc) saw the potential ROI from giving these clinics funding to get started, knowing the patients these clinics would be treating will be lifetime customers.

There is deep, deep evil on sooooo many levels associated with this whole gender affirming care nonsense. It’s well beyond just the surface evil of taking advantage of mentally ill people with dysmorphia.


That can be said about our entire medical system so the fact that you are singling out gender care shows us that you are an ideologue on a quest to malign anything related to trans. You have some sort of fixation on this issue for some reason? Do you know any trans people? Have you been affected personally by anyone transitioning?
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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.


No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.


Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.


The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.


For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.


DP. Are you advocating for institutionalizing all people who identify as trans?
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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.


No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.

I call BS on this.
Show me a Republican that wants to raise taxes for anything, no matter how good for society.


It won't be necessary to raise taxes. Stop funding the programs that DO NOT work.


DP. Specifically, which programs would you cancel in order to fund mass institutionalization?


Funny, Democrats had no problem coming up with billions of dollars to feed, house, educate, transport, & medically treat millions of illegal aliens.

How about they start cooperating on sending all those illegal aliens back to where they came from (Uganda is close enough) so it will free up money to do other things?


Our economy is boosted by immigration. Reducing immigration doesn’t “free up money” it actually decreases tax receipts by local governments.
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Anonymous wrote:As an elementary school teacher, it broke my heart to see the kids being interviewed and struck me how they were not at all surprised that this happened to them. Our kids are growing up expecting to go through an active shooter situation at school.

We are breeding the next generation of domestic terrorists.


+1 How can this be the world we leave to our children?

It's only the "world" in the US. Other civilized countries don't have this issue.

I've told my kids who have dual citizenship with a European country to seriously think about moving there if they have kids. The US is a horrible place to raise children.

My friend moved to Portugal with her family, including little kids. They never ever worry about school shootings, or shootings anywhere.


The EU never followed the idiotic “deinstitutionalization” (or closing every in-patient mental hospital) the way the U.S. did, starting in the 1960s.

We have obviously mentally-unstable people screaming in the streets here, and no one will do anything about it. Europe does not have that problem.

It is the mental illness.
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