SecDef shares US war Plan in Group chat

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Anonymous wrote:So are the Democrats not doing anything? All I am reading about is a lot of outrage but is anyone doing anything?

If not, what would it take for people to do something? Another 9/11?

Another 9/11 is definitely where we’re headed. The GOP is such a disaster.

The real question is why the congressional Republicans, who have all the power on the Hill right now, are not doing anything. In Nixon's day, it was the Republicans who pushed him out of office.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is officially standing by Waltz. But it’s still possible he’ll get Waltz to resign if the press coverage gets to be too much for him.

Hegseth is the one who added number of planes and positions, which is much worse than adding the wrong number. That’s classified info.

+1 Chatting about this on Signal - very very very bad
Mistakenly adding a reporter to Signal/no one being aware of who was in the chat generally - very very very bad
Adding operational details like locations, timing, positions of military personnel to the chat - the goddamn worst

How about making this decision to get around records laws?

The Military Times newspaper has already pointed out that the yahoos on the group chat broke several laws. This is very clear. Prosecute Hegseth, Vance, Waltz, Gabbard, Miller, Wiles and co. We're waiting.

Thie Military Times is not affiliated with the military and privately held. They also excused Secretary Austin so not necessary unbiased. Some people may think this is a military newspaper and it is not. When you hear prosecute for being on a government acceptable thread you have to step back and see who is saying this. Again these witch hunts are not good for the country. I cannot imagine being a politician today.

Were the”witch hunts” good when HRC and Hunter Biden were the witches?

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Bring back the “woke”!

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The Ds opposition party line should have gone hard with #TraitorTrump in 2018 and ran with it. But Ds didn’t want to “fight”.

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Anonymous wrote:So are the Democrats not doing anything? All I am reading about is a lot of outrage but is anyone doing anything?

If not, what would it take for people to do something? Another 9/11?

Another 9/11 is definitely where we’re headed. The GOP is such a disaster.

The real question is why the congressional Republicans, who have all the power on the Hill right now, are not doing anything. In Nixon's day, it was the Republicans who pushed him out of office.

They are complicit, being threatened, extorted, or don’t care. In any case, they are not fit.

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Anonymous wrote:Correct it was in the heating and Warner did not disagree. So yes and more people should listen to hearings when people are under oath because unless you hear people under oath (both sides) you do not know what is spin.

For what purpose did the CIA say signal was okay? Organizing a lunch order? Seeking up meetings? Or highly classified info? Context matters and I while I belief the CIA may have played signal for lunch orders, o do not for second believe they okayed signal on unsecured personal devices for highly classified info.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the Trump administration officials at the hearings are lying under oath. Claiming no classified info was included on the chat. They are brazen for sure. They need to be prosecuted.

Then the chat can be fully released, right?

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Y'all realize this is A LOT worse than Hunter's laptop, which had ZERO classified information on it, right?

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Anonymous wrote:So interesting that apparently Signal is the messaging that was approved for CIA use from previous administrations. Senator attempted to downplay this. I hate when you have to listen ten times to get what is actually the trust. The reality is that moving forward you can’t use anything that has initials which can be accidentally put in. The big story should be why this reporter said nothing immediately. Most people would have said something if only you don’t want to hear something you are not allowed to hear.

Please cite to your information that the CIA approved signal as a messaging app for classified info (except maybe for agents undercover and in the field in remote areas without other more secure means of communication to report imminent threats— which was not the case here.).

Radcliffe just said it in this morning’s hearing

He said the CIA had approved signal to transmit CLASSIFIED info? If so, he just perjured himself before Congress.

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Anonymous wrote:So are the Democrats not doing anything? All I am reading about is a lot of outrage but is anyone doing anything?

If not, what would it take for people to do something? Another 9/11?

Another 9/11 is definitely where we’re headed. The GOP is such a disaster.

The real question is why the congressional Republicans, who have all the power on the Hill right now, are not doing anything. In Nixon's day, it was the Republicans who pushed him out of office.

They are complicit, being threatened, extorted, or don’t care. In any case, they are not fit.

The GOP is party over country these days. This WhiskyGate Leaks thing is Exhibit A.

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Anonymous wrote:This "reporter" also broke the story of "losers and suckers"

He has receipts, i.e., actual screen shots of the messages. He didn’t chase the story – – he was added erroneously to the chat. What don’t you understand about that?

He also could have done what I have done at work when I have received something I should not receive and that is to contact someone and say I believe I received this by accident. No he is thinking he will get a book or a million speaking engagements. I am sure also exaggerating as well. Sad.

Why don't you apply that reasoning to the actual natsec people on the chat?

I stand by what I said. We live in a world where this kind of mistake can happen and you learn from it. I have definitely received emails and sometimes emails at the bottom say if you received by accident you need to erase and contact sender. I have done this and can even recall a time someone said something I didn’t appreciate and it was an awkward call. The dumb thing is this reporter could have done this and built a reputation as a stand up person instead of being so partisan.

Stop gaslighting. This mistake could not have happened if they were following protocol. None of this should be on Signal or on personal phones or include someone who was in Moscow at the time or include stupid emojis or copy-paste top secret details from a secured source to an unsecured phone to be shared on a group chat.

The reporter should have identified himself immediately and waiting was wrong. The only reason he didn’t identify was to get a story and that is wrong.
Also let’s compare this to our former DOD secretary who didn’t let anyone know he was being treated with serious surgery is not even close. Liberal media was very very quiet on that. That was willful. This was a technology accident. The politics around here is tiring.

This is indefensible. I'm embarrassed for you.

What did you say when Secretary Austin was MIA? Yeah guessing nothing and again willful. There was almost no discussion of abandoning post and that he should step down by liberal media.
President as well but that was
his decision and he was allowed to make that decision. So I am willing to allow a mistake and am annoyed that a seasoned reporter kept quiet and didn’t identify himself. You have to wonder what same reporter would have done if it was Biden’s team. I can speculate that he would have identified himself.

This wasn't a mistake.

They should not be using Signal for classified exchanges, get it? There is NO excuse. You were bleating about "her emails" and Classified documents in Biden's garage...THiS iS A THOUSAND TIMES WORSE...by every measure.

Signal is not subject to FOIA requests or the requirement/ability to be formally archived, right?

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Anonymous wrote:So interesting that apparently Signal is the messaging that was approved for CIA use from previous administrations. Senator attempted to downplay this. I hate when you have to listen ten times to get what is actually the trust. The reality is that moving forward you can’t use anything that has initials which can be accidentally put in. The big story should be why this reporter said nothing immediately. Most people would have said something if only you don’t want to hear something you are not allowed to hear.

Please cite to your information that the CIA approved signal as a messaging app for classified info (except maybe for agents undercover and in the field in remote areas without other more secure means of communication to report imminent threats— which was not the case here.).

Radcliffe just said it in this morning’s hearing

He said it (Ratcliffe not Radcliffe). Is it true?
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/5212727-warner-gabbard-ratcliffe-classified-details-signal/

Warner then pointed out that Gabbard recently posted on social media that “unauthorized release of classified information is a violation of the law and will be treated as such.”

Gabbard responded that “there’s a difference between inadvertent release versus careless and sloppy, malicious leaks of classified information. The second point is, there was no classified information that was” shared.

Ratcliffe told lawmakers that his use of Signal to discuss the plans was authorized, addressing another point of contention raised in the fallout of Goldberg’s story.

“When I was confirmed as CIA director, Signal was loaded onto my computer at the CIA as it is for most CIA officers. One of the things that I was briefed on very early, senator, was by the CIA records management folks about the use of Signal as a permissible work use,” Ratcliffe said.

He said the CIA had approved signal to transmit CLASSIFIED info? If so, he just perjured himself before Congress.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the Trump administration officials at the hearings are lying under oath. Claiming no classified info was included on the chat. They are brazen for sure. They need to be prosecuted.

Then the chat can be fully released, right?

It's a good question.

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He said it (Ratcliffe not Radcliffe). Is it true?
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/...fied-details-signal/

Warner then pointed out that Gabbard recently posted on social media that “unauthorized release of classified information is a violation of the law and will be treated as such.”

Gabbard responded that “there’s a difference between inadvertent release versus careless and sloppy, malicious leaks of classified information. The second point is, there was no classified information that was” shared.

Ratcliffe told lawmakers that his use of Signal to discuss the plans was authorized, addressing another point of contention raised in the fallout of Goldberg’s story.

“When I was confirmed as CIA director, Signal was loaded onto my computer at the CIA as it is for most CIA officers. One of the things that I was briefed on very early, senator, was by the CIA records management folks about the use of Signal as a permissible work use,” Ratcliffe said.

He said the CIA had approved signal to transmit CLASSIFIED info? If so, he just perjured himself before Congress.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So are the Democrats not doing anything? All I am reading about is a lot of outrage but is anyone doing anything?

If not, what would it take for people to do something? Another 9/11?

Another 9/11 is definitely where we’re headed. The GOP is such a disaster.

The real question is why the congressional Republicans, who have all the power on the Hill right now, are not doing anything. In Nixon's day, it was the Republicans who pushed him out of office.

Because they are beholden to ElMo if they want campaign donations when they run for reelection