As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

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This along with every thread in politics is a great example of what missing. Compromise. If the “sides” could work together and accept compromise, we’d have a moderate and functional government. If you’re voting for politicians who proudly don’t compromise, you are creating this mess.

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Anonymous wrote:To the people who still think that Biden is fit to be President and just had a bad night, would you support scheduling another debate before the convention and giving him a chance to do better?

There is no way Trump will agree to another debate. Why would he? Biden had his chance and he blew it.

Trump - and any politician - would agree to a million debates with President Biden.

Biden is obviously unwell and unfit for any office, much less the Presidency. Think of the debate a couple of days ago, and now imagine him four years from now when he is 86 in the unlikely event he is still alive. Aging happens. That is the real world.

Unless Democrats get it together and remove Biden from the ballot and find someone else, this will be a catastrophic loss for Democrats across the board. Trump will be President. And both the Senate and House will be red too.

But all I'm seeing are Democrats circling the wagon and going all in with Biden.

Absolutely pathetic Party.

Pathetic is supporting a candidate who is twice impeached, convicted felon. Who was also found liable for sexual abuse. Trump is a misogynistic sociopath. Who incited a riot because the election didn’t go his way. Too bad, deal with it, like most presidents would have. Oh and totally botched the response to a pandemic and thousands of people died because he didn’t give a s***. We haven’t forgotten what an atrocious failure Trump was. I will post this same response 1000x if I have to until election day.

Post all you want. I despise Trump, but if Democrats are going to go all in with a clearly enfeebled 82 year old Biden, then Trump will be President again. And if you don't care for that, use your energy to remove Biden and find a better candidate. Trump will be President again if this doesn't change very soon.

oh please. Trump is insane and a criminal and approaching 80 years old. So you are going to tell me that all these pissed off women, among other demographics voting will come to a screeching halt because of a dismal debate performance?? Look at how the Ds have been turning up and voting
this past year. The Rs should be looking over their shoulder after what happened in the Ohio special election.

All it takes is enough dems not showing up. And that is what will happen. He’s not going to get better. So they will either hide him away or he will flop again. We need to get real here. Kamala is not a viable alternative. We have completely fumbled at a critical moment for our country. We need a new candidate now. For Chrissakes the house could invoke the 25th amendment and who knows what would happen if he’s having s bad day? They probably won’t because they would rather run against him than anyone else. I’m a lifelong moderate dem but this is not ok. We don’t choose our party over our country. I don’t care how f’d up the republicans are.

Again, I will repeat my point. Women and other groups are 🤬 because of what has happened at the Supreme Court, anong many other things. The man has left a trail of destruction from his 4 yrs in office. They may not show up specifically for Biden but they will show up to vote and vote blue to keep Donald J Trump out. Again, Ds have performed well in most elections this year. Trump is toxic, that will never change.

It’s too late to get behind another nominee. Deal with it.

Pp here. I’m a woman. I’m a dem. I voted Hillary. I’m outraged at the Supreme Court. But this is crazy you can’t bully people into voting. I can’t vote for Biden who I really liked before. It makes no sense we have no idea who is really running things. People don’t like to be conned, I am one of them. You are asking me to affirmatively vote for someone I know to be incompetent just because I hate trump (and I do, believe me.). I won’t do that. The party has gotten way too arrogant to think they can get away with this. I will vote third party.

Bullying? I sure don’t see it that way. How about the alternative is too terrible to comprehend. A former reality tv host became President by luck. He has since tried to dismantle our democracy. Incited an insurrection. Doesn’t get worse than that.

Wake up.

If you thought that the "Biden doesn't have stage 5 or 6 dementia" chapter was a feel-good experience, the "Biden won't start a nuclear war with Russia" chapter will be loads of excitement like you've never imagined!

He hasn't dismantled anything. But yeah, a nuke might.

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Anonymous wrote:If they removed Biden by hand picking another candidate, would it really be any better? The shadow government is still getting their way. The quid pro quo to get that deal done is like signing a deal with an unknown devil. We've done 4 years with Trump and even if you don't like him, it went fine, and it is the devil you know.

+1,000,000

I can’t believe how the Dems have conned America for the last four years. The mainstream media is complicit and should be boycotted. The Dems have no credibility and are the ones who have defrauded Americans with a fake figurehead President putting Democracy at risk. Whoever the Dems install as the candidate will be another fake. I want to see behind the curtain. At least with Trump, we know exactly who is in charge. And when he was in charge things were much better for Americans. Secure border, less crime, low inflation, no wars, no homeless crisis and women didn’t have penises and could have their own sports and restrooms. Thank God for Elon Musk because without him, there would be no freedom of speech. The Dems tried to take that too.

I’m voting for transparency, democracy and normalcy. And in this case, that means Trump.

They will not relinquish power. Good luck.

Actually I am sad to say that I agree with you. I thought the 2000 electiom deniers were absolutely insane. It was embarrassing that we couldn’t just move on. But now I am beginning to think those Trumpers might not have been wrong. Democrats have no moral compass and are lying to us and gaslighting us. What else are Dems lying about? Anyone they select to take Biden’s place is unelected by the people and tainted with lies. That is the destruction of
democracy. Not a bunch of unarmed rednecks walking through the Capitol but the entire Democratic party lying about the President’s obvious dementia and who is actually running the country.

OMG. I think I’m with you. Prior to Thursday evening, this would have been unthinkable. I’m so shook.

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Anonymous wrote:To the people who still think that Biden is fit to be President and just had a bad night, would you support scheduling another debate before the convention and giving him a chance to do better?

There is no way Trump will agree to another debate. Why would he? Biden had his chance and he blew it.

Trump - and any politician - would agree to a million debates with President Biden.

Biden is obviously unwell and unfit for any office, much less the Presidency. Think of the debate a couple of days ago, and now imagine him four years from now when he is 86 in the unlikely event he is still alive. Aging happens. That is the real world.

Unless Democrats get it together and remove Biden from the ballot and find someone else, this will be a catastrophic loss for Democrats across the board. Trump will be President. And both the Senate and House will be red too.

But all I'm seeing are Democrats circling the wagon and going all in with Biden.

Absolutely pathetic Party.

Pathetic is supporting a candidate who is twice impeached, convicted felon. Who was also found liable for sexual abuse. Trump is a misogynistic sociopath. Who incited a riot because the election didn’t go his way. Too bad, deal with it, like most presidents would have. Oh and totally botched the response to a pandemic and thousands of people died because he didn’t give a s***. We haven’t forgotten what an atrocious failure Trump was. I will post this same response 1000x if I have to until election day.

Post all you want. I despise Trump, but if Democrats are going to go all in with a clearly enfeebled 82 year old Biden, then Trump will be President again. And if you don't care for that, use your energy to remove Biden and find a better candidate. Trump will be President again if this doesn't change very soon.

oh please. Trump is insane and a criminal and approaching 80 years old. So you are going to tell me that all these pissed off women, among other demographics voting will come to a screeching halt because of a dismal debate performance?? Look at how the Ds have been turning up and voting
this past year. The Rs should be looking over their shoulder after what happened in the Ohio special election.

All it takes is enough dems not showing up. And that is what will happen. He’s not going to get better. So they will either hide him away or he will flop again. We need to get real here. Kamala is not a viable alternative. We have completely fumbled at a critical moment for our country. We need a new candidate now. For Chrissakes the house could invoke the 25th amendment and who knows what would happen if he’s having s bad day? They probably won’t because they would rather run against him than anyone else. I’m a lifelong moderate dem but this is not ok. We don’t choose our party over our country. I don’t care how f’d up the republicans are.

Again, I will repeat my point. Women and other groups are 🤬 because of what has happened at the Supreme Court, anong many other things. The man has left a trail of destruction from his 4 yrs in office. They may not show up specifically for Biden but they will show up to vote and vote blue to keep Donald J Trump out. Again, Ds have performed well in most elections this year. Trump is toxic, that will never change.

It’s too late to get behind another nominee. Deal with it.

Pp here. I’m a woman. I’m a dem. I voted Hillary. I’m outraged at the Supreme Court. But this is crazy you can’t bully people into voting. I can’t vote for Biden who I really liked before. It makes no sense we have no idea who is really running things. People don’t like to be conned, I am one of them. You are asking me to affirmatively vote for someone I know to be incompetent just because I hate trump (and I do, believe me.). I won’t do that. The party has gotten way too arrogant to think they can get away with this. I will vote third party.

What do you mean "we have no idea who is really running things?" Sorry but despite whatever "dementia dementia dementia" crap the right wing is spamming everywhere, Biden IS NOT that far gone. Not to mention, unlike Trump, he knows how government works and how to get things done, and who to lean on to get them done, he is surrounded by a highly seasoned and capable team of advisors and experts who like him, know policy and know how to get things done. Unlike Trump, who did not listen to anyone, who had a revolving door of people, constant scandals and firings of his officials, constant string of policy failures like border and immigration policies being thrown out by the courts because his advisors didn't understand or respect laws and policymaking.

You're free to vote for whoever you like but I don't see any compelling third party options either. RFK Jr is a wackadoo, the Libertarians, Greens and others are sketchy AF.

That should be his new campaign slogan.

"Biden, not that far gone."

It makes total sense why his campaign kept him in a basement during last election cycle. He has been on decline for the last 4 years.

Okay, “Biden, not that far gone” is the new bumper sticker. Made me chuckle.

Lol and the pp who suggested that really believes “not that far gone” is acceptable for our president! wtf!

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Anonymous wrote:If they removed Biden by hand picking another candidate, would it really be any better? The shadow government is still getting their way. The quid pro quo to get that deal done is like signing a deal with an unknown devil. We've done 4 years with Trump and even if you don't like him, it went fine, and it is the devil you know.

+1,000,000

I can’t believe how the Dems have conned America for the last four years. The mainstream media is complicit and should be boycotted. The Dems have no credibility and are the ones who have defrauded Americans with a fake figurehead President putting Democracy at risk. Whoever the Dems install as the candidate will be another fake. I want to see behind the curtain. At least with Trump, we know exactly who is in charge. And when he was in charge things were much better for Americans. Secure border, less crime, low inflation, no wars, no homeless crisis and women didn’t have penises and could have their own sports and restrooms. Thank God for Elon Musk because without him, there would be no freedom of speech. The Dems tried to take that too.

I’m voting for transparency, democracy and normalcy. And in this case, that means Trump.

They will not relinquish power. Good luck.

Actually I am sad to say that I agree with you. I thought the 2000 electiom deniers were absolutely insane. It was embarrassing that we couldn’t just move on. But now I am beginning to think those Trumpers might not have been wrong. Democrats have no moral compass and are lying to us and gaslighting us. What else are Dems lying about? Anyone they select to take Biden’s place is unelected by the people and tainted with lies. That is the destruction of
democracy. Not a bunch of unarmed rednecks walking through the Capitol but the entire Democratic party lying about the President’s obvious dementia and who is actually running the country.

OMG. I think I’m with you. Prior to Thursday evening, this would have been unthinkable. I’m so shook.

Same here.

It defies reality to think that the NYT went from “Biden is fine” to “replace him in an undemocratic process” in a week. They’ve been lying and covering. And of course that opens the question about what else they’ve been lying about.

[Anonymous]

Question to republicans or independent: I am not going to switch to Foxnews. I am already following some foreign news stations (Australian, BBC, Al Jazzeera, and few other). What news stations that are fairly unbiased (even if they are right leaning)?

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Anonymous wrote:To the people who still think that Biden is fit to be President and just had a bad night, would you support scheduling another debate before the convention and giving him a chance to do better?

There is no way Trump will agree to another debate. Why would he? Biden had his chance and he blew it.

Trump - and any politician - would agree to a million debates with President Biden.

Biden is obviously unwell and unfit for any office, much less the Presidency. Think of the debate a couple of days ago, and now imagine him four years from now when he is 86 in the unlikely event he is still alive. Aging happens. That is the real world.

Unless Democrats get it together and remove Biden from the ballot and find someone else, this will be a catastrophic loss for Democrats across the board. Trump will be President. And both the Senate and House will be red too.

But all I'm seeing are Democrats circling the wagon and going all in with Biden.

Absolutely pathetic Party.

Pathetic is supporting a candidate who is twice impeached, convicted felon. Who was also found liable for sexual abuse. Trump is a misogynistic sociopath. Who incited a riot because the election didn’t go his way. Too bad, deal with it, like most presidents would have. Oh and totally botched the response to a pandemic and thousands of people died because he didn’t give a s***. We haven’t forgotten what an atrocious failure Trump was. I will post this same response 1000x if I have to until election day.

Post all you want. I despise Trump, but if Democrats are going to go all in with a clearly enfeebled 82 year old Biden, then Trump will be President again. And if you don't care for that, use your energy to remove Biden and find a better candidate. Trump will be President again if this doesn't change very soon.

oh please. Trump is insane and a criminal and approaching 80 years old. So you are going to tell me that all these pissed off women, among other demographics voting will come to a screeching halt because of a dismal debate performance?? Look at how the Ds have been turning up and voting
this past year. The Rs should be looking over their shoulder after what happened in the Ohio special election.

All it takes is enough dems not showing up. And that is what will happen. He’s not going to get better. So they will either hide him away or he will flop again. We need to get real here. Kamala is not a viable alternative. We have completely fumbled at a critical moment for our country. We need a new candidate now. For Chrissakes the house could invoke the 25th amendment and who knows what would happen if he’s having s bad day? They probably won’t because they would rather run against him than anyone else. I’m a lifelong moderate dem but this is not ok. We don’t choose our party over our country. I don’t care how f’d up the republicans are.

Again, I will repeat my point. Women and other groups are 🤬 because of what has happened at the Supreme Court, anong many other things. The man has left a trail of destruction from his 4 yrs in office. They may not show up specifically for Biden but they will show up to vote and vote blue to keep Donald J Trump out. Again, Ds have performed well in most elections this year. Trump is toxic, that will never change.

It’s too late to get behind another nominee. Deal with it.

Pp here. I’m a woman. I’m a dem. I voted Hillary. I’m outraged at the Supreme Court. But this is crazy you can’t bully people into voting. I can’t vote for Biden who I really liked before. It makes no sense we have no idea who is really running things. People don’t like to be conned, I am one of them. You are asking me to affirmatively vote for someone I know to be incompetent just because I hate trump (and I do, believe me.). I won’t do that. The party has gotten way too arrogant to think they can get away with this. I will vote third party.

Bullying? I sure don’t see it that way. How about the alternative is too terrible to comprehend. A former reality tv host became President by luck. He has since tried to dismantle our democracy. Incited an insurrection. Doesn’t get worse than that.

Wake up.

If you thought that the "Biden doesn't have stage 5 or 6 dementia" chapter was a feel-good experience, the "Biden won't start a nuclear war with Russia" chapter will be loads of excitement like you've never imagined!

One of the few things that Trump said during the debate that did stand out in a fair way was that under his presidency, the world was far more at peace. There was no Ukraine war, there was no Hamas genocidal attack on Israel, there was no belligerent Iran. For all the hysteria about Trump, it was media driven and among the Democrats, but day to day life was pretty good, economy was growing with wages outpacing inflation, and we had no wars overseas. Trump himself was a disaster in many ways but it was on a personal and organizational level, but he by and large pretty much left Americans alone.

When COVID hit, that was the perfect time for Trump to seize quasi-dictatorial power, but he didn't. He was attacked for not doing enough even though he stayed within the boundaries of presidential powers and left most matters to the states, where it really did constitutionally belong. And the blue state Democrats had far more severe shutdowns and remote learning than the red states even though as it turned out, with no difference in outcomes.

Accusing Trump for wanting to dismantle democracy is hypocritical given that he won his primaries fair and square, he may have petulantly refused to engage in the debates but he still won the voters fair and square. Contrast that to the Democrats, who cancelled primaries in a bunch of states and fiercely shut down potential competition like Dean Phillips and RFK jr. That doesn't sound democratic to me!

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Stand by our President

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Stand by our President

Why?

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Jokes aside, I am really scared what steps Russia, China and Iran might take in the next 6 month.

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OP, find your spine and start knocking doors.

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I'd place him at about stage 5 or 6 dementia.

The slack jawed look is a symptom. Frequently he stares with his mouth hanging open. When this happens the brain area that tells the mouth to close is not working.

Jill helping Joe to traverse the 1 step down from the debate stage after the debate illustrated another symptom from stage 5 or 6 dementia. Joe's legs are strong enough to go up and down steps.
As dementia progresses your brain loses the ability to process spatial changes. A stage hand or assistant ran up to Joe and Jill and ran his shoe over the floor to shoe Joe that the surface was solid. Someone with mid stage dementia will have concerns and hesitation walking on shiny surface as their brain does not interpret the floor as solid. Jill, even with high heels, was able to traverse the one step and her normal brain told her the shiny floor was solid.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd place him at about stage 5 or 6 dementia.

The slack jawed look is a symptom. Frequently he stares with his mouth hanging open. When this happens the brain area that tells the mouth to close is not working.

Jill helping Joe to traverse the 1 step down from the debate stage after the debate illustrated another symptom from stage 5 or 6 dementia. Joe's legs are strong enough to go up and down steps.
As dementia progresses your brain loses the ability to process spatial changes. A stage hand or assistant ran up to Joe and Jill and ran his shoe over the floor to shoe Joe that the surface was solid. Someone with mid stage dementia will have concerns and hesitation walking on shiny surface as their brain does not interpret the floor as solid. Jill, even with high heels, was able to traverse the one step and her normal brain told her the shiny floor was solid.

Thanks, doc. Going to take my chances with Joe over the crazed felon.

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Anonymous wrote:Jokes aside, I am really scared what steps Russia, China and Iran might take in the next 6 month.

and you weren’t worried when Trump was president?

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Anonymous wrote:To the people who still think that Biden is fit to be President and just had a bad night, would you support scheduling another debate before the convention and giving him a chance to do better?

There is no way Trump will agree to another debate. Why would he? Biden had his chance and he blew it.

Trump - and any politician - would agree to a million debates with President Biden.

Biden is obviously unwell and unfit for any office, much less the Presidency. Think of the debate a couple of days ago, and now imagine him four years from now when he is 86 in the unlikely event he is still alive. Aging happens. That is the real world.

Unless Democrats get it together and remove Biden from the ballot and find someone else, this will be a catastrophic loss for Democrats across the board. Trump will be President. And both the Senate and House will be red too.

But all I'm seeing are Democrats circling the wagon and going all in with Biden.

Absolutely pathetic Party.

Pathetic is supporting a candidate who is twice impeached, convicted felon. Who was also found liable for sexual abuse. Trump is a misogynistic sociopath. Who incited a riot because the election didn’t go his way. Too bad, deal with it, like most presidents would have. Oh and totally botched the response to a pandemic and thousands of people died because he didn’t give a s***. We haven’t forgotten what an atrocious failure Trump was. I will post this same response 1000x if I have to until election day.

Post all you want. I despise Trump, but if Democrats are going to go all in with a clearly enfeebled 82 year old Biden, then Trump will be President again. And if you don't care for that, use your energy to remove Biden and find a better candidate. Trump will be President again if this doesn't change very soon.

oh please. Trump is insane and a criminal and approaching 80 years old. So you are going to tell me that all these pissed off women, among other demographics voting will come to a screeching halt because of a dismal debate performance?? Look at how the Ds have been turning up and voting
this past year. The Rs should be looking over their shoulder after what happened in the Ohio special election.

All it takes is enough dems not showing up. And that is what will happen. He’s not going to get better. So they will either hide him away or he will flop again. We need to get real here. Kamala is not a viable alternative. We have completely fumbled at a critical moment for our country. We need a new candidate now. For Chrissakes the house could invoke the 25th amendment and who knows what would happen if he’s having s bad day? They probably won’t because they would rather run against him than anyone else. I’m a lifelong moderate dem but this is not ok. We don’t choose our party over our country. I don’t care how f’d up the republicans are.

Again, I will repeat my point. Women and other groups are 🤬 because of what has happened at the Supreme Court, anong many other things. The man has left a trail of destruction from his 4 yrs in office. They may not show up specifically for Biden but they will show up to vote and vote blue to keep Donald J Trump out. Again, Ds have performed well in most elections this year. Trump is toxic, that will never change.

It’s too late to get behind another nominee. Deal with it.

Pp here. I’m a woman. I’m a dem. I voted Hillary. I’m outraged at the Supreme Court. But this is crazy you can’t bully people into voting. I can’t vote for Biden who I really liked before. It makes no sense we have no idea who is really running things. People don’t like to be conned, I am one of them. You are asking me to affirmatively vote for someone I know to be incompetent just because I hate trump (and I do, believe me.). I won’t do that. The party has gotten way too arrogant to think they can get away with this. I will vote third party.

Bullying? I sure don’t see it that way. How about the alternative is too terrible to comprehend. A former reality tv host became President by luck. He has since tried to dismantle our democracy. Incited an insurrection. Doesn’t get worse than that.

Wake up.

If you thought that the "Biden doesn't have stage 5 or 6 dementia" chapter was a feel-good experience, the "Biden won't start a nuclear war with Russia" chapter will be loads of excitement like you've never imagined!

One of the few things that Trump said during the debate that did stand out in a fair way was that under his presidency, the world was far more at peace. There was no Ukraine war, there was no Hamas genocidal attack on Israel, there was no belligerent Iran. For all the hysteria about Trump, it was media driven and among the Democrats, but day to day life was pretty good, economy was growing with wages outpacing inflation, and we had no wars overseas. Trump himself was a disaster in many ways but it was on a personal and organizational level, but he by and large pretty much left Americans alone.

When COVID hit, that was the perfect time for Trump to seize quasi-dictatorial power, but he didn't. He was attacked for not doing enough even though he stayed within the boundaries of presidential powers and left most matters to the states, where it really did constitutionally belong. And the blue state Democrats had far more severe shutdowns and remote learning than the red states even though as it turned out, with no difference in outcomes.

Accusing Trump for wanting to dismantle democracy is hypocritical given that he won his primaries fair and square, he may have petulantly refused to engage in the debates but he still won the voters fair and square. Contrast that to the Democrats, who cancelled primaries in a bunch of states and fiercely shut down potential competition like Dean Phillips and RFK jr. That doesn't sound democratic to me!

omg, Trump handled covid effectively? covid amnesia again. He stood at the podium everyday, combatant with the press for dare asking questions and the audacity of one reporter to ask how what to say to scared Americans. And then said to drink bleach and take a horse dewormer. Total disgrace.