As a Democrat, it all feels hopeless.

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Anonymous wrote:If they removed Biden by hand picking another candidate, would it really be any better? The shadow government is still getting their way. The quid pro quo to get that deal done is like signing a deal with an unknown devil. We've done 4 years with Trump and even if you don't like him, it went fine, and it is the devil you know.


+1,000,000

I can’t believe how the Dems have conned America for the last four years. The mainstream media is complicit and should be boycotted. The Dems have no credibility and are the ones who have defrauded Americans with a fake figurehead President putting Democracy at risk. Whoever the Dems install as the candidate will be another fake. I want to see behind the curtain. At least with Trump, we know exactly who is in charge. And when he was in charge things were much better for Americans. Secure border, less crime, low inflation, no wars, no homeless crisis and women didn’t have penises and could have their own sports and restrooms. Thank God for Elon Musk because without him, there would be no freedom of speech. The Dems tried to take that too.

I’m voting for transparency, democracy and normalcy. And in this case, that means Trump.


They will not relinquish power. Good luck.
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Anonymous wrote:If they removed Biden by hand picking another candidate, would it really be any better? The shadow government is still getting their way. The quid pro quo to get that deal done is like signing a deal with an unknown devil. We've done 4 years with Trump and even if you don't like him, it went fine, and it is the devil you know.


it went fine? Pandemic amnesia I guess? What a horrid time and thousands died. But right, no big deal. Just drink bleach.


Do you know what I remember most about the pandemic? Is that my kid in a blue state sat in his room glued to a computer for over a year and a half because Biden was in the pocket of the teachers union & Randi Weingarten’s teacher didn’t want to return to the classroom. And at that point, we all knew kids and young people were at almost zero risk! Kids all across the country will never recover from the lockdown. They suffered and I’ll never forget. Red states had their kids in classrooms and there was zero difference in the death count.
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Anonymous wrote:To the people who still think that Biden is fit to be President and just had a bad night, would you support scheduling another debate before the convention and giving him a chance to do better?


There is no way Trump will agree to another debate. Why would he? Biden had his chance and he blew it.



Trump - and any politician - would agree to a million debates with President Biden.

Biden is obviously unwell and unfit for any office, much less the Presidency. Think of the debate a couple of days ago, and now imagine him four years from now when he is 86 in the unlikely event he is still alive. Aging happens. That is the real world.

Unless Democrats get it together and remove Biden from the ballot and find someone else, this will be a catastrophic loss for Democrats across the board. Trump will be President. And both the Senate and House will be red too.

But all I'm seeing are Democrats circling the wagon and going all in with Biden.

Absolutely pathetic Party.


Pathetic is supporting a candidate who is twice impeached, convicted felon. Who was also found liable for sexual abuse. Trump is a misogynistic sociopath. Who incited a riot because the election didn’t go his way. Too bad, deal with it, like most presidents would have. Oh and totally botched the response to a pandemic and thousands of people died because he didn’t give a s***. We haven’t forgotten what an atrocious failure Trump was. I will post this same response 1000x if I have to until election day.



Post all you want. I despise Trump, but if Democrats are going to go all in with a clearly enfeebled 82 year old Biden, then Trump will be President again. And if you don't care for that, use your energy to remove Biden and find a better candidate. Trump will be President again if this doesn't change very soon.


oh please. Trump is insane and a criminal and approaching 80 years old. So you are going to tell me that all these pissed off women, among other demographics voting will come to a screeching halt because of a dismal debate performance?? Look at how the Ds have been turning up and voting
this past year. The Rs should be looking over their shoulder after what happened in the Ohio special election.


All it takes is enough dems not showing up. And that is what will happen. He’s not going to get better. So they will either hide him away or he will flop again. We need to get real here. Kamala is not a viable alternative. We have completely fumbled at a critical moment for our country. We need a new candidate now. For Chrissakes the house could invoke the 25th amendment and who knows what would happen if he’s having s bad day? They probably won’t because they would rather run against him than anyone else. I’m a lifelong moderate dem but this is not ok. We don’t choose our party over our country. I don’t care how f’d up the republicans are.


Again, I will repeat my point. Women and other groups are 🤬 because of what has happened at the Supreme Court, anong many other things. The man has left a trail of destruction from his 4 yrs in office. They may not show up specifically for Biden but they will show up to vote and vote blue to keep Donald J Trump out. Again, Ds have performed well in most elections this year. Trump is toxic, that will never change.

It’s too late to get behind another nominee. Deal with it.


Pp here. I’m a woman. I’m a dem. I voted Hillary. I’m outraged at the Supreme Court. But this is crazy you can’t bully people into voting. I can’t vote for Biden who I really liked before. It makes no sense we have no idea who is really running things. People don’t like to be conned, I am one of them. You are asking me to affirmatively vote for someone I know to be incompetent just because I hate trump (and I do, believe me.). I won’t do that. The party has gotten way too arrogant to think they can get away with this. I will vote third party.


What do you mean "we have no idea who is really running things?" Sorry but despite whatever "dementia dementia dementia" crap the right wing is spamming everywhere, Biden IS NOT that far gone. Not to mention, unlike Trump, he knows how government works and how to get things done, and who to lean on to get them done, he is surrounded by a highly seasoned and capable team of advisors and experts who like him, know policy and know how to get things done. Unlike Trump, who did not listen to anyone, who had a revolving door of people, constant scandals and firings of his officials, constant string of policy failures like border and immigration policies being thrown out by the courts because his advisors didn't understand or respect laws and policymaking.

You're free to vote for whoever you like but I don't see any compelling third party options either. RFK Jr is a wackadoo, the Libertarians, Greens and others are sketchy AF.


Uh. Not far gone? This sounds like a Biden intern. Do you wipe his butt when Jill is getting her hair done?
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Anonymous wrote:If they removed Biden by hand picking another candidate, would it really be any better? The shadow government is still getting their way. The quid pro quo to get that deal done is like signing a deal with an unknown devil. We've done 4 years with Trump and even if you don't like him, it went fine, and it is the devil you know.


it went fine? Pandemic amnesia I guess? What a horrid time and thousands died. But right, no big deal. Just drink bleach.


Do you know what I remember most about the pandemic? Is that my kid in a blue state sat in his room glued to a computer for over a year and a half because Biden was in the pocket of the teachers union & Randi Weingarten’s teacher didn’t want to return to the classroom. And at that point, we all knew kids and young people were at almost zero risk! Kids all across the country will never recover from the lockdown. They suffered and I’ll never forget. Red states had their kids in classrooms and there was zero difference in the death count.


In FL, where I now live, families had a choice to enroll in virtual school, do a virtual hybrid, or completely in person schooling. Parents had choice and it really made a difference in the happiness of the kids and families. I feel sad for you that you went through that.
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Anonymous wrote:If they removed Biden by hand picking another candidate, would it really be any better? The shadow government is still getting their way. The quid pro quo to get that deal done is like signing a deal with an unknown devil. We've done 4 years with Trump and even if you don't like him, it went fine, and it is the devil you know.


it went fine? Pandemic amnesia I guess? What a horrid time and thousands died. But right, no big deal. Just drink bleach.


Do you know what I remember most about the pandemic? Is that my kid in a blue state sat in his room glued to a computer for over a year and a half because Biden was in the pocket of the teachers union & Randi Weingarten’s teacher didn’t want to return to the classroom. And at that point, we all knew kids and young people were at almost zero risk! Kids all across the country will never recover from the lockdown. They suffered and I’ll never forget. Red states had their kids in classrooms and there was zero difference in the death count.


In FL, where I now live, families had a choice to enroll in virtual school, do a virtual hybrid, or completely in person schooling. Parents had choice and it really made a difference in the happiness of the kids and families. I feel sad for you that you went through that.


Thank you. It was truly awful and I will never forget.
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Anonymous wrote:To the people who still think that Biden is fit to be President and just had a bad night, would you support scheduling another debate before the convention and giving him a chance to do better?


There is no way Trump will agree to another debate. Why would he? Biden had his chance and he blew it.



Trump - and any politician - would agree to a million debates with President Biden.

Biden is obviously unwell and unfit for any office, much less the Presidency. Think of the debate a couple of days ago, and now imagine him four years from now when he is 86 in the unlikely event he is still alive. Aging happens. That is the real world.

Unless Democrats get it together and remove Biden from the ballot and find someone else, this will be a catastrophic loss for Democrats across the board. Trump will be President. And both the Senate and House will be red too.

But all I'm seeing are Democrats circling the wagon and going all in with Biden.

Absolutely pathetic Party.


Pathetic is supporting a candidate who is twice impeached, convicted felon. Who was also found liable for sexual abuse. Trump is a misogynistic sociopath. Who incited a riot because the election didn’t go his way. Too bad, deal with it, like most presidents would have. Oh and totally botched the response to a pandemic and thousands of people died because he didn’t give a s***. We haven’t forgotten what an atrocious failure Trump was. I will post this same response 1000x if I have to until election day.



Post all you want. I despise Trump, but if Democrats are going to go all in with a clearly enfeebled 82 year old Biden, then Trump will be President again. And if you don't care for that, use your energy to remove Biden and find a better candidate. Trump will be President again if this doesn't change very soon.


oh please. Trump is insane and a criminal and approaching 80 years old. So you are going to tell me that all these pissed off women, among other demographics voting will come to a screeching halt because of a dismal debate performance?? Look at how the Ds have been turning up and voting
this past year. The Rs should be looking over their shoulder after what happened in the Ohio special election.


All it takes is enough dems not showing up. And that is what will happen. He’s not going to get better. So they will either hide him away or he will flop again. We need to get real here. Kamala is not a viable alternative. We have completely fumbled at a critical moment for our country. We need a new candidate now. For Chrissakes the house could invoke the 25th amendment and who knows what would happen if he’s having s bad day? They probably won’t because they would rather run against him than anyone else. I’m a lifelong moderate dem but this is not ok. We don’t choose our party over our country. I don’t care how f’d up the republicans are.


Again, I will repeat my point. Women and other groups are 🤬 because of what has happened at the Supreme Court, anong many other things. The man has left a trail of destruction from his 4 yrs in office. They may not show up specifically for Biden but they will show up to vote and vote blue to keep Donald J Trump out. Again, Ds have performed well in most elections this year. Trump is toxic, that will never change.

It’s too late to get behind another nominee. Deal with it.


Pp here. I’m a woman. I’m a dem. I voted Hillary. I’m outraged at the Supreme Court. But this is crazy you can’t bully people into voting. I can’t vote for Biden who I really liked before. It makes no sense we have no idea who is really running things. People don’t like to be conned, I am one of them. You are asking me to affirmatively vote for someone I know to be incompetent just because I hate trump (and I do, believe me.). I won’t do that. The party has gotten way too arrogant to think they can get away with this. I will vote third party.


What do you mean "we have no idea who is really running things?" Sorry but despite whatever "dementia dementia dementia" crap the right wing is spamming everywhere, Biden IS NOT that far gone. Not to mention, unlike Trump, he knows how government works and how to get things done, and who to lean on to get them done, he is surrounded by a highly seasoned and capable team of advisors and experts who like him, know policy and know how to get things done. Unlike Trump, who did not listen to anyone, who had a revolving door of people, constant scandals and firings of his officials, constant string of policy failures like border and immigration policies being thrown out by the courts because his advisors didn't understand or respect laws and policymaking.

You're free to vote for whoever you like but I don't see any compelling third party options either. RFK Jr is a wackadoo, the Libertarians, Greens and others are sketchy AF.


Even if we accept your argument that Biden is "not that far gone," he is clearly, unquestionably, experiencing cognitive decline. If you are honest with yourself, it is not a pretty picture. The Biden of today is much weaker than the Biden of 2020, even though there were definitely warning symptoms in 2020 too. The Biden of today is clearly weaker than the Biden of a year ago. Are you expecting us to believe that the Biden of today is capable of getting through the next four years? Let alone next year? Biden did terribly at the debate because like so many people with cognitive decline, he crashes in the evening. So who is answering the phone at 4 AM when someone from Europe calls with an emergency? Who has the nuclear codes? Why is the New York Times (!) demanding that Biden step aside?

You can possibly sell on the argument it's really a team you're voting for, but someone does have to make the final decisions. So who is making those final decisions?

Read this article in Axios, which includes quotes from White House resident staff (the people who clean and serve the presidential family): https://www.axios.com/2024/06/30/top-aides-shielded-biden-white-house-debate. Axios is not a right wing source by any stretch of the imagination. This is not good, however you spin it. And the senior Democrats knew. They were gaslighting America and the world. Which is not good either. I have to emphasize how bad this is for the party. How can you be the party that wants to save democracy by effectively being undemocratic?
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Anonymous wrote:If they removed Biden by hand picking another candidate, would it really be any better? The shadow government is still getting their way. The quid pro quo to get that deal done is like signing a deal with an unknown devil. We've done 4 years with Trump and even if you don't like him, it went fine, and it is the devil you know.


it went fine? Pandemic amnesia I guess? What a horrid time and thousands died. But right, no big deal. Just drink bleach.


Do you know what I remember most about the pandemic? Is that my kid in a blue state sat in his room glued to a computer for over a year and a half because Biden was in the pocket of the teachers union & Randi Weingarten’s teacher didn’t want to return to the classroom. And at that point, we all knew kids and young people were at almost zero risk! Kids all across the country will never recover from the lockdown. They suffered and I’ll never forget. Red states had their kids in classrooms and there was zero difference in the death count.


Pst, I will break you a secret: my kid in Fairfax county private school was in person after only two weeks closure in spring of 2020. What democrats did to children is unforgivable.
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Anonymous wrote:To the people who still think that Biden is fit to be President and just had a bad night, would you support scheduling another debate before the convention and giving him a chance to do better?


There is no way Trump will agree to another debate. Why would he? Biden had his chance and he blew it.



Trump - and any politician - would agree to a million debates with President Biden.

Biden is obviously unwell and unfit for any office, much less the Presidency. Think of the debate a couple of days ago, and now imagine him four years from now when he is 86 in the unlikely event he is still alive. Aging happens. That is the real world.

Unless Democrats get it together and remove Biden from the ballot and find someone else, this will be a catastrophic loss for Democrats across the board. Trump will be President. And both the Senate and House will be red too.

But all I'm seeing are Democrats circling the wagon and going all in with Biden.

Absolutely pathetic Party.


Pathetic is supporting a candidate who is twice impeached, convicted felon. Who was also found liable for sexual abuse. Trump is a misogynistic sociopath. Who incited a riot because the election didn’t go his way. Too bad, deal with it, like most presidents would have. Oh and totally botched the response to a pandemic and thousands of people died because he didn’t give a s***. We haven’t forgotten what an atrocious failure Trump was. I will post this same response 1000x if I have to until election day.



Post all you want. I despise Trump, but if Democrats are going to go all in with a clearly enfeebled 82 year old Biden, then Trump will be President again. And if you don't care for that, use your energy to remove Biden and find a better candidate. Trump will be President again if this doesn't change very soon.


oh please. Trump is insane and a criminal and approaching 80 years old. So you are going to tell me that all these pissed off women, among other demographics voting will come to a screeching halt because of a dismal debate performance?? Look at how the Ds have been turning up and voting
this past year. The Rs should be looking over their shoulder after what happened in the Ohio special election.


All it takes is enough dems not showing up. And that is what will happen. He’s not going to get better. So they will either hide him away or he will flop again. We need to get real here. Kamala is not a viable alternative. We have completely fumbled at a critical moment for our country. We need a new candidate now. For Chrissakes the house could invoke the 25th amendment and who knows what would happen if he’s having s bad day? They probably won’t because they would rather run against him than anyone else. I’m a lifelong moderate dem but this is not ok. We don’t choose our party over our country. I don’t care how f’d up the republicans are.


Again, I will repeat my point. Women and other groups are 🤬 because of what has happened at the Supreme Court, anong many other things. The man has left a trail of destruction from his 4 yrs in office. They may not show up specifically for Biden but they will show up to vote and vote blue to keep Donald J Trump out. Again, Ds have performed well in most elections this year. Trump is toxic, that will never change.

It’s too late to get behind another nominee. Deal with it.


Pp here. I’m a woman. I’m a dem. I voted Hillary. I’m outraged at the Supreme Court. But this is crazy you can’t bully people into voting. I can’t vote for Biden who I really liked before. It makes no sense we have no idea who is really running things. People don’t like to be conned, I am one of them. You are asking me to affirmatively vote for someone I know to be incompetent just because I hate trump (and I do, believe me.). I won’t do that. The party has gotten way too arrogant to think they can get away with this. I will vote third party.


What do you mean "we have no idea who is really running things?" Sorry but despite whatever "dementia dementia dementia" crap the right wing is spamming everywhere, Biden IS NOT that far gone. Not to mention, unlike Trump, he knows how government works and how to get things done, and who to lean on to get them done, he is surrounded by a highly seasoned and capable team of advisors and experts who like him, know policy and know how to get things done. Unlike Trump, who did not listen to anyone, who had a revolving door of people, constant scandals and firings of his officials, constant string of policy failures like border and immigration policies being thrown out by the courts because his advisors didn't understand or respect laws and policymaking.

You're free to vote for whoever you like but I don't see any compelling third party options either. RFK Jr is a wackadoo, the Libertarians, Greens and others are sketchy AF.


Uh. Not far gone? This sounds like a Biden intern. Do you wipe his butt when Jill is getting her hair done?


No one is wiping anyone's butt. Let's not lose focus. All we need is to make sure Trump and Biden are on gold courses or in assisted living residences until 2029 and not "leading" the country from The White House. C'mon folks, we can do this. Put your thinking caps on. We aren't dumb enough as a country to elect one of these two clowns.
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Anonymous wrote:To the people who still think that Biden is fit to be President and just had a bad night, would you support scheduling another debate before the convention and giving him a chance to do better?


There is no way Trump will agree to another debate. Why would he? Biden had his chance and he blew it.



Trump - and any politician - would agree to a million debates with President Biden.

Biden is obviously unwell and unfit for any office, much less the Presidency. Think of the debate a couple of days ago, and now imagine him four years from now when he is 86 in the unlikely event he is still alive. Aging happens. That is the real world.

Unless Democrats get it together and remove Biden from the ballot and find someone else, this will be a catastrophic loss for Democrats across the board. Trump will be President. And both the Senate and House will be red too.

But all I'm seeing are Democrats circling the wagon and going all in with Biden.

Absolutely pathetic Party.


Pathetic is supporting a candidate who is twice impeached, convicted felon. Who was also found liable for sexual abuse. Trump is a misogynistic sociopath. Who incited a riot because the election didn’t go his way. Too bad, deal with it, like most presidents would have. Oh and totally botched the response to a pandemic and thousands of people died because he didn’t give a s***. We haven’t forgotten what an atrocious failure Trump was. I will post this same response 1000x if I have to until election day.



Post all you want. I despise Trump, but if Democrats are going to go all in with a clearly enfeebled 82 year old Biden, then Trump will be President again. And if you don't care for that, use your energy to remove Biden and find a better candidate. Trump will be President again if this doesn't change very soon.


oh please. Trump is insane and a criminal and approaching 80 years old. So you are going to tell me that all these pissed off women, among other demographics voting will come to a screeching halt because of a dismal debate performance?? Look at how the Ds have been turning up and voting
this past year. The Rs should be looking over their shoulder after what happened in the Ohio special election.


All it takes is enough dems not showing up. And that is what will happen. He’s not going to get better. So they will either hide him away or he will flop again. We need to get real here. Kamala is not a viable alternative. We have completely fumbled at a critical moment for our country. We need a new candidate now. For Chrissakes the house could invoke the 25th amendment and who knows what would happen if he’s having s bad day? They probably won’t because they would rather run against him than anyone else. I’m a lifelong moderate dem but this is not ok. We don’t choose our party over our country. I don’t care how f’d up the republicans are.


Again, I will repeat my point. Women and other groups are 🤬 because of what has happened at the Supreme Court, anong many other things. The man has left a trail of destruction from his 4 yrs in office. They may not show up specifically for Biden but they will show up to vote and vote blue to keep Donald J Trump out. Again, Ds have performed well in most elections this year. Trump is toxic, that will never change.

It’s too late to get behind another nominee. Deal with it.


Pp here. I’m a woman. I’m a dem. I voted Hillary. I’m outraged at the Supreme Court. But this is crazy you can’t bully people into voting. I can’t vote for Biden who I really liked before. It makes no sense we have no idea who is really running things. People don’t like to be conned, I am one of them. You are asking me to affirmatively vote for someone I know to be incompetent just because I hate trump (and I do, believe me.). I won’t do that. The party has gotten way too arrogant to think they can get away with this. I will vote third party.


What do you mean "we have no idea who is really running things?" Sorry but despite whatever "dementia dementia dementia" crap the right wing is spamming everywhere, Biden IS NOT that far gone. Not to mention, unlike Trump, he knows how government works and how to get things done, and who to lean on to get them done, he is surrounded by a highly seasoned and capable team of advisors and experts who like him, know policy and know how to get things done. Unlike Trump, who did not listen to anyone, who had a revolving door of people, constant scandals and firings of his officials, constant string of policy failures like border and immigration policies being thrown out by the courts because his advisors didn't understand or respect laws and policymaking.

You're free to vote for whoever you like but I don't see any compelling third party options either. RFK Jr is a wackadoo, the Libertarians, Greens and others are sketchy AF.


Uh. Not far gone? This sounds like a Biden intern. Do you wipe his butt when Jill is getting her hair done?


No one is wiping anyone's butt. Let's not lose focus. All we need is to make sure Trump and Biden are on gold courses or in assisted living residences until 2029 and not "leading" the country from The White House. C'mon folks, we can do this. Put your thinking caps on. We aren't dumb enough as a country to elect one of these two clowns.


Unfortunately they don't really care what we think.
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Anonymous wrote:If they removed Biden by hand picking another candidate, would it really be any better? The shadow government is still getting their way. The quid pro quo to get that deal done is like signing a deal with an unknown devil. We've done 4 years with Trump and even if you don't like him, it went fine, and it is the devil you know.


+1,000,000

I can’t believe how the Dems have conned America for the last four years. The mainstream media is complicit and should be boycotted. The Dems have no credibility and are the ones who have defrauded Americans with a fake figurehead President putting Democracy at risk. Whoever the Dems install as the candidate will be another fake. I want to see behind the curtain. At least with Trump, we know exactly who is in charge. And when he was in charge things were much better for Americans. Secure border, less crime, low inflation, no wars, no homeless crisis and women didn’t have penises and could have their own sports and restrooms. Thank God for Elon Musk because without him, there would be no freedom of speech. The Dems tried to take that too.

I’m voting for transparency, democracy and normalcy. And in this case, that means Trump.


They will not relinquish power. Good luck.


Actually I am sad to say that I agree with you. I thought the 2000 electiom deniers were absolutely insane. It was embarrassing that we couldn’t just move on. But now I am beginning to think those Trumpers might not have been wrong. Democrats have no moral compass and are lying to us and gaslighting us. What else are Dems lying about? Anyone they select to take Biden’s place is unelected by the people and tainted with lies. That is the destruction of democracy. Not a bunch of unarmed rednecks walking through the Capitol but the entire Democratic party lying about the President’s obvious dementia and who is actually running the country.
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There is no way Trump will agree to another debate. Why would he? Biden had his chance and he blew it.



Trump - and any politician - would agree to a million debates with President Biden.

Biden is obviously unwell and unfit for any office, much less the Presidency. Think of the debate a couple of days ago, and now imagine him four years from now when he is 86 in the unlikely event he is still alive. Aging happens. That is the real world.

Unless Democrats get it together and remove Biden from the ballot and find someone else, this will be a catastrophic loss for Democrats across the board. Trump will be President. And both the Senate and House will be red too.

But all I'm seeing are Democrats circling the wagon and going all in with Biden.

Absolutely pathetic Party.


Pathetic is supporting a candidate who is twice impeached, convicted felon. Who was also found liable for sexual abuse. Trump is a misogynistic sociopath. Who incited a riot because the election didn’t go his way. Too bad, deal with it, like most presidents would have. Oh and totally botched the response to a pandemic and thousands of people died because he didn’t give a s***. We haven’t forgotten what an atrocious failure Trump was. I will post this same response 1000x if I have to until election day.



Post all you want. I despise Trump, but if Democrats are going to go all in with a clearly enfeebled 82 year old Biden, then Trump will be President again. And if you don't care for that, use your energy to remove Biden and find a better candidate. Trump will be President again if this doesn't change very soon.


oh please. Trump is insane and a criminal and approaching 80 years old. So you are going to tell me that all these pissed off women, among other demographics voting will come to a screeching halt because of a dismal debate performance?? Look at how the Ds have been turning up and voting
this past year. The Rs should be looking over their shoulder after what happened in the Ohio special election.


All it takes is enough dems not showing up. And that is what will happen. He’s not going to get better. So they will either hide him away or he will flop again. We need to get real here. Kamala is not a viable alternative. We have completely fumbled at a critical moment for our country. We need a new candidate now. For Chrissakes the house could invoke the 25th amendment and who knows what would happen if he’s having s bad day? They probably won’t because they would rather run against him than anyone else. I’m a lifelong moderate dem but this is not ok. We don’t choose our party over our country. I don’t care how f’d up the republicans are.


Again, I will repeat my point. Women and other groups are 🤬 because of what has happened at the Supreme Court, anong many other things. The man has left a trail of destruction from his 4 yrs in office. They may not show up specifically for Biden but they will show up to vote and vote blue to keep Donald J Trump out. Again, Ds have performed well in most elections this year. Trump is toxic, that will never change.

It’s too late to get behind another nominee. Deal with it.


Pp here. I’m a woman. I’m a dem. I voted Hillary. I’m outraged at the Supreme Court. But this is crazy you can’t bully people into voting. I can’t vote for Biden who I really liked before. It makes no sense we have no idea who is really running things. People don’t like to be conned, I am one of them. You are asking me to affirmatively vote for someone I know to be incompetent just because I hate trump (and I do, believe me.). I won’t do that. The party has gotten way too arrogant to think they can get away with this. I will vote third party.


What do you mean "we have no idea who is really running things?" Sorry but despite whatever "dementia dementia dementia" crap the right wing is spamming everywhere, Biden IS NOT that far gone. Not to mention, unlike Trump, he knows how government works and how to get things done, and who to lean on to get them done, he is surrounded by a highly seasoned and capable team of advisors and experts who like him, know policy and know how to get things done. Unlike Trump, who did not listen to anyone, who had a revolving door of people, constant scandals and firings of his officials, constant string of policy failures like border and immigration policies being thrown out by the courts because his advisors didn't understand or respect laws and policymaking.

You're free to vote for whoever you like but I don't see any compelling third party options either. RFK Jr is a wackadoo, the Libertarians, Greens and others are sketchy AF.
That should be his new campaign slogan.

"Biden, not that far gone."


It makes total sense why his campaign kept him in a basement during last election cycle. He has been on decline for the last 4 years.
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Anonymous wrote:To the people who still think that Biden is fit to be President and just had a bad night, would you support scheduling another debate before the convention and giving him a chance to do better?


There is no way Trump will agree to another debate. Why would he? Biden had his chance and he blew it.



Trump - and any politician - would agree to a million debates with President Biden.

Biden is obviously unwell and unfit for any office, much less the Presidency. Think of the debate a couple of days ago, and now imagine him four years from now when he is 86 in the unlikely event he is still alive. Aging happens. That is the real world.

Unless Democrats get it together and remove Biden from the ballot and find someone else, this will be a catastrophic loss for Democrats across the board. Trump will be President. And both the Senate and House will be red too.

But all I'm seeing are Democrats circling the wagon and going all in with Biden.

Absolutely pathetic Party.


Pathetic is supporting a candidate who is twice impeached, convicted felon. Who was also found liable for sexual abuse. Trump is a misogynistic sociopath. Who incited a riot because the election didn’t go his way. Too bad, deal with it, like most presidents would have. Oh and totally botched the response to a pandemic and thousands of people died because he didn’t give a s***. We haven’t forgotten what an atrocious failure Trump was. I will post this same response 1000x if I have to until election day.



Post all you want. I despise Trump, but if Democrats are going to go all in with a clearly enfeebled 82 year old Biden, then Trump will be President again. And if you don't care for that, use your energy to remove Biden and find a better candidate. Trump will be President again if this doesn't change very soon.


oh please. Trump is insane and a criminal and approaching 80 years old. So you are going to tell me that all these pissed off women, among other demographics voting will come to a screeching halt because of a dismal debate performance?? Look at how the Ds have been turning up and voting
this past year. The Rs should be looking over their shoulder after what happened in the Ohio special election.


All it takes is enough dems not showing up. And that is what will happen. He’s not going to get better. So they will either hide him away or he will flop again. We need to get real here. Kamala is not a viable alternative. We have completely fumbled at a critical moment for our country. We need a new candidate now. For Chrissakes the house could invoke the 25th amendment and who knows what would happen if he’s having s bad day? They probably won’t because they would rather run against him than anyone else. I’m a lifelong moderate dem but this is not ok. We don’t choose our party over our country. I don’t care how f’d up the republicans are.


Again, I will repeat my point. Women and other groups are 🤬 because of what has happened at the Supreme Court, anong many other things. The man has left a trail of destruction from his 4 yrs in office. They may not show up specifically for Biden but they will show up to vote and vote blue to keep Donald J Trump out. Again, Ds have performed well in most elections this year. Trump is toxic, that will never change.

It’s too late to get behind another nominee. Deal with it.


Pp here. I’m a woman. I’m a dem. I voted Hillary. I’m outraged at the Supreme Court. But this is crazy you can’t bully people into voting. I can’t vote for Biden who I really liked before. It makes no sense we have no idea who is really running things. People don’t like to be conned, I am one of them. You are asking me to affirmatively vote for someone I know to be incompetent just because I hate trump (and I do, believe me.). I won’t do that. The party has gotten way too arrogant to think they can get away with this. I will vote third party.


What do you mean "we have no idea who is really running things?" Sorry but despite whatever "dementia dementia dementia" crap the right wing is spamming everywhere, Biden IS NOT that far gone. Not to mention, unlike Trump, he knows how government works and how to get things done, and who to lean on to get them done, he is surrounded by a highly seasoned and capable team of advisors and experts who like him, know policy and know how to get things done. Unlike Trump, who did not listen to anyone, who had a revolving door of people, constant scandals and firings of his officials, constant string of policy failures like border and immigration policies being thrown out by the courts because his advisors didn't understand or respect laws and policymaking.

You're free to vote for whoever you like but I don't see any compelling third party options either. RFK Jr is a wackadoo, the Libertarians, Greens and others are sketchy AF.
That should be his new campaign slogan.

"Biden, not that far gone."


It makes total sense why his campaign kept him in a basement during last election cycle. He has been on decline for the last 4 years.


Okay, “Biden, not that far gone” is the new bumper sticker. Made me chuckle.
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Anonymous wrote:To the people who still think that Biden is fit to be President and just had a bad night, would you support scheduling another debate before the convention and giving him a chance to do better?


There is no way Trump will agree to another debate. Why would he? Biden had his chance and he blew it.



Trump - and any politician - would agree to a million debates with President Biden.

Biden is obviously unwell and unfit for any office, much less the Presidency. Think of the debate a couple of days ago, and now imagine him four years from now when he is 86 in the unlikely event he is still alive. Aging happens. That is the real world.

Unless Democrats get it together and remove Biden from the ballot and find someone else, this will be a catastrophic loss for Democrats across the board. Trump will be President. And both the Senate and House will be red too.

But all I'm seeing are Democrats circling the wagon and going all in with Biden.

Absolutely pathetic Party.


Pathetic is supporting a candidate who is twice impeached, convicted felon. Who was also found liable for sexual abuse. Trump is a misogynistic sociopath. Who incited a riot because the election didn’t go his way. Too bad, deal with it, like most presidents would have. Oh and totally botched the response to a pandemic and thousands of people died because he didn’t give a s***. We haven’t forgotten what an atrocious failure Trump was. I will post this same response 1000x if I have to until election day.



Post all you want. I despise Trump, but if Democrats are going to go all in with a clearly enfeebled 82 year old Biden, then Trump will be President again. And if you don't care for that, use your energy to remove Biden and find a better candidate. Trump will be President again if this doesn't change very soon.


oh please. Trump is insane and a criminal and approaching 80 years old. So you are going to tell me that all these pissed off women, among other demographics voting will come to a screeching halt because of a dismal debate performance?? Look at how the Ds have been turning up and voting
this past year. The Rs should be looking over their shoulder after what happened in the Ohio special election.


All it takes is enough dems not showing up. And that is what will happen. He’s not going to get better. So they will either hide him away or he will flop again. We need to get real here. Kamala is not a viable alternative. We have completely fumbled at a critical moment for our country. We need a new candidate now. For Chrissakes the house could invoke the 25th amendment and who knows what would happen if he’s having s bad day? They probably won’t because they would rather run against him than anyone else. I’m a lifelong moderate dem but this is not ok. We don’t choose our party over our country. I don’t care how f’d up the republicans are.


Again, I will repeat my point. Women and other groups are 🤬 because of what has happened at the Supreme Court, anong many other things. The man has left a trail of destruction from his 4 yrs in office. They may not show up specifically for Biden but they will show up to vote and vote blue to keep Donald J Trump out. Again, Ds have performed well in most elections this year. Trump is toxic, that will never change.

It’s too late to get behind another nominee. Deal with it.


Pp here. I’m a woman. I’m a dem. I voted Hillary. I’m outraged at the Supreme Court. But this is crazy you can’t bully people into voting. I can’t vote for Biden who I really liked before. It makes no sense we have no idea who is really running things. People don’t like to be conned, I am one of them. You are asking me to affirmatively vote for someone I know to be incompetent just because I hate trump (and I do, believe me.). I won’t do that. The party has gotten way too arrogant to think they can get away with this. I will vote third party.


What do you mean "we have no idea who is really running things?" Sorry but despite whatever "dementia dementia dementia" crap the right wing is spamming everywhere, Biden IS NOT that far gone. Not to mention, unlike Trump, he knows how government works and how to get things done, and who to lean on to get them done, he is surrounded by a highly seasoned and capable team of advisors and experts who like him, know policy and know how to get things done. Unlike Trump, who did not listen to anyone, who had a revolving door of people, constant scandals and firings of his officials, constant string of policy failures like border and immigration policies being thrown out by the courts because his advisors didn't understand or respect laws and policymaking.

You're free to vote for whoever you like but I don't see any compelling third party options either. RFK Jr is a wackadoo, the Libertarians, Greens and others are sketchy AF.
That should be his new campaign slogan.

"Biden, not that far gone."


It makes total sense why his campaign kept him in a basement during last election cycle. He has been on decline for the last 4 years.


Yup.
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Anonymous wrote:To the people who still think that Biden is fit to be President and just had a bad night, would you support scheduling another debate before the convention and giving him a chance to do better?


There is no way Trump will agree to another debate. Why would he? Biden had his chance and he blew it.



Trump - and any politician - would agree to a million debates with President Biden.

Biden is obviously unwell and unfit for any office, much less the Presidency. Think of the debate a couple of days ago, and now imagine him four years from now when he is 86 in the unlikely event he is still alive. Aging happens. That is the real world.

Unless Democrats get it together and remove Biden from the ballot and find someone else, this will be a catastrophic loss for Democrats across the board. Trump will be President. And both the Senate and House will be red too.

But all I'm seeing are Democrats circling the wagon and going all in with Biden.

Absolutely pathetic Party.


Pathetic is supporting a candidate who is twice impeached, convicted felon. Who was also found liable for sexual abuse. Trump is a misogynistic sociopath. Who incited a riot because the election didn’t go his way. Too bad, deal with it, like most presidents would have. Oh and totally botched the response to a pandemic and thousands of people died because he didn’t give a s***. We haven’t forgotten what an atrocious failure Trump was. I will post this same response 1000x if I have to until election day.



Post all you want. I despise Trump, but if Democrats are going to go all in with a clearly enfeebled 82 year old Biden, then Trump will be President again. And if you don't care for that, use your energy to remove Biden and find a better candidate. Trump will be President again if this doesn't change very soon.


oh please. Trump is insane and a criminal and approaching 80 years old. So you are going to tell me that all these pissed off women, among other demographics voting will come to a screeching halt because of a dismal debate performance?? Look at how the Ds have been turning up and voting
this past year. The Rs should be looking over their shoulder after what happened in the Ohio special election.


All it takes is enough dems not showing up. And that is what will happen. He’s not going to get better. So they will either hide him away or he will flop again. We need to get real here. Kamala is not a viable alternative. We have completely fumbled at a critical moment for our country. We need a new candidate now. For Chrissakes the house could invoke the 25th amendment and who knows what would happen if he’s having s bad day? They probably won’t because they would rather run against him than anyone else. I’m a lifelong moderate dem but this is not ok. We don’t choose our party over our country. I don’t care how f’d up the republicans are.


Again, I will repeat my point. Women and other groups are 🤬 because of what has happened at the Supreme Court, anong many other things. The man has left a trail of destruction from his 4 yrs in office. They may not show up specifically for Biden but they will show up to vote and vote blue to keep Donald J Trump out. Again, Ds have performed well in most elections this year. Trump is toxic, that will never change.

It’s too late to get behind another nominee. Deal with it.


Pp here. I’m a woman. I’m a dem. I voted Hillary. I’m outraged at the Supreme Court. But this is crazy you can’t bully people into voting. I can’t vote for Biden who I really liked before. It makes no sense we have no idea who is really running things. People don’t like to be conned, I am one of them. You are asking me to affirmatively vote for someone I know to be incompetent just because I hate trump (and I do, believe me.). I won’t do that. The party has gotten way too arrogant to think they can get away with this. I will vote third party.


Bullying? I sure don’t see it that way. How about the alternative is too terrible to comprehend. A former reality tv host became President by luck. He has since tried to dismantle our democracy. Incited an insurrection. Doesn’t get worse than that.

Wake up.


If you thought that the "Biden doesn't have stage 5 or 6 dementia" chapter was a feel-good experience, the "Biden won't start a nuclear war with Russia" chapter will be loads of excitement like you've never imagined!
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