USC and Columbia Protests

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

These are protests about non-negotiable human values.

I don’t think it’s because of the “the Jews”. The confounding variable is time. Today’s world is way-way more connected than the 1940’s or even the early 2000’s. Our communities have merged. People hear the stories of those in Gaza because modern media and network connections enable them. Stop with the “it’s all anti-Semitic” bs. The world sees what is happening and doesn’t like it. If today’s world with today’s technology was watching Dresden, Hiroshima, etc unfold, they would watch in horror and disgust.

The world did watch in disgust when Israel was attacked. But times have changed over the last several months and memories are short.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel and its supporters make it incredibly easy to support the underdog in this fight, even an underdog that shoots itself in the foot at times.

Yes, the US supports the underdog Israel. Last week, Iran, a country with eight times the population of Israel, sent a wave of drones, ballistic and cruise missiles, toward Israel. Fortunately, with US military assistance, Israel was able to shoot down 99% of the incoming explosives. and the only serious injury was to a 7-year old Bedouin girl. Would the people objecting to military assistance to Israel, preferred that there were instead massive casualties?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

These are protests about non-negotiable human values.

I don’t think it’s because of the “the Jews”. The confounding variable is time. Today’s world is way-way more connected than the 1940’s or even the early 2000’s. Our communities have merged. People hear the stories of those in Gaza because modern media and network connections enable them. Stop with the “it’s all anti-Semitic” bs. The world sees what is happening and doesn’t like it. If today’s world with today’s technology was watching Dresden, Hiroshima, etc unfold, they would watch in horror and disgust.

The world did watch in disgust when Israel was attacked. But times have changed over the last several months and memories are short.

Agree with this, and I'll add that supporters of Israel make it REALLY hard to galvanize others with their actual indifference to human life that isn't Jewish. It's much more than saying the words "I'm as upset as the next person at what's happening in Gaza". It rings hollow when the next sentence is something, something, 10/7. Or "all of this would end if Hamas would just surrender"!

Everybody understands that those are talking points crafted to change the subject and impose conditions that everyone already understands are an impossibility at this time. 10/7 cannot be undone, and Hamas is a movement (not the physical manifestation of a movement).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel and its supporters make it incredibly easy to support the underdog in this fight, even an underdog that shoots itself in the foot at times.

Yes, the US supports the underdog Israel. Last week, Iran, a country with eight times the population of Israel, sent a wave of drones, ballistic and cruise missiles, toward Israel. Fortunately, with US military assistance, Israel was able to shoot down 99% of the incoming explosives. and the only serious injury was to a 7-year old Bedouin girl. Would the people objecting to military assistance to Israel, preferred that there were instead massive casualties?

You can reply with sarcastic reference to Israel as an underdog, but it's just a waste of oxygen.

Iran's response was to Israel's destruction of a diplomatic facility, murder of foreign nationals, and general misconduct in the region without a shred of documented justification. But you're right, and you're welcome. We bailed you out. Again. When will you be able to cash the checks you keep writing, instead of relying on others?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel and its supporters make it incredibly easy to support the underdog in this fight, even an underdog that shoots itself in the foot at times.

Yes, the US supports the underdog Israel. Last week, Iran, a country with eight times the population of Israel, sent a wave of drones, ballistic and cruise missiles, toward Israel. Fortunately, with US military assistance, Israel was able to shoot down 99% of the incoming explosives. and the only serious injury was to a 7-year old Bedouin girl. Would the people objecting to military assistance to Israel, preferred that there were instead massive casualties?

Actually, as a person who objects to military assistance to Israel, I would have preferred that Israel not have provoked the Iranian response by committing war crimes in destroying a foreign diplomatic facility, murdering diplomats, and then expecting people to just turn the page when they conjured up another Israeli lie about the occupants of the diplomatic facility.

#stopIsraelsupport

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel and its supporters make it incredibly easy to support the underdog in this fight, even an underdog that shoots itself in the foot at times.

Yes, the US supports the underdog Israel. Last week, Iran, a country with eight times the population of Israel, sent a wave of drones, ballistic and cruise missiles, toward Israel. Fortunately, with US military assistance, Israel was able to shoot down 99% of the incoming explosives. and the only serious injury was to a 7-year old Bedouin girl. Would the people objecting to military assistance to Israel, preferred that there were instead massive casualties?

Yup. Israel knows Big Brother has their back, so they're willing to bomb a consulate as they know no meaningful harm can come to them.

Stop the great enablement!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel and its supporters make it incredibly easy to support the underdog in this fight, even an underdog that shoots itself in the foot at times.

Yes, the US supports the underdog Israel. Last week, Iran, a country with eight times the population of Israel, sent a wave of drones, ballistic and cruise missiles, toward Israel. Fortunately, with US military assistance, Israel was able to shoot down 99% of the incoming explosives. and the only serious injury was to a 7-year old Bedouin girl. Would the people objecting to military assistance to Israel, preferred that there were instead massive casualties?

Actually, as a person who objects to military assistance to Israel, I would have preferred that Israel not have provoked the Iranian response by committing war crimes in destroying a foreign diplomatic facility, murdering diplomats, and then expecting people to just turn the page when they conjured up another Israeli lie about the occupants of the diplomatic facility.

#stopIsraelsupport

I get it. You wanted the Iranian drones and cruise missiles to cause mass casualties. Sorry you were disappointed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

These are protests about non-negotiable human values.

I don’t think it’s because of the “the Jews”. The confounding variable is time. Today’s world is way-way more connected than the 1940’s or even the early 2000’s. Our communities have merged. People hear the stories of those in Gaza because modern media and network connections enable them. Stop with the “it’s all anti-Semitic” bs. The world sees what is happening and doesn’t like it. If today’s world with today’s technology was watching Dresden, Hiroshima, etc unfold, they would watch in horror and disgust.

The world did watch in disgust when Israel was attacked. But times have changed over the last several months and memories are short.

Agree with this, and I'll add that supporters of Israel make it REALLY hard to galvanize others with their actual indifference to human life that isn't Jewish. It's much more than saying the words "I'm as upset as the next person at what's happening in Gaza". It rings hollow when the next sentence is something, something, 10/7. Or "all of this would end if Hamas would just surrender"!

Everybody understands that those are talking points crafted to change the subject and impose conditions that everyone already understands are an impossibility at this time. 10/7 cannot be undone, and Hamas is a movement (not the physical manifestation of a movement).

I happen to have a spouse who is Jewish and have attended some services (as an outsider). I remember how Rabbis would go on and on about how awful it is what is happening at the southern border. "Trump is a criminal". "Children are in cages". Yet, when it comes to Israel's treatment of Palestinian, either mum is the word or it's fixated on the hostages. I've seen enough to know what this all means. Jewish life is life. Other life is a bargaining chip used to place those in power who they wish to see in power. It's really disgusting to see the double standard that exists within these conservative synagogues...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel and its supporters make it incredibly easy to support the underdog in this fight, even an underdog that shoots itself in the foot at times.

Yes, the US supports the underdog Israel. Last week, Iran, a country with eight times the population of Israel, sent a wave of drones, ballistic and cruise missiles, toward Israel. Fortunately, with US military assistance, Israel was able to shoot down 99% of the incoming explosives. and the only serious injury was to a 7-year old Bedouin girl. Would the people objecting to military assistance to Israel, preferred that there were instead massive casualties?

Actually, as a person who objects to military assistance to Israel, I would have preferred that Israel not have provoked the Iranian response by committing war crimes in destroying a foreign diplomatic facility, murdering diplomats, and then expecting people to just turn the page when they conjured up another Israeli lie about the occupants of the diplomatic facility.

#stopIsraelsupport

I get it. You wanted the Iranian drones and cruise missiles to cause mass casualties. Sorry you were disappointed.

Wow, this is your takeaway from his post? It must be one of two things: either English isn't your first language, or, sorry to say, you have a low IQ.

[Anonymous]

I think these protestors should do what many young American Jews have done - buy a plane ticket, pick up a rifle, and demonstrate the strength of their convictions that way

But if they even tried to do that they’d probably be strapped to missiles by Hamas the next day

LARPing clowns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel and its supporters make it incredibly easy to support the underdog in this fight, even an underdog that shoots itself in the foot at times.

Yes, the US supports the underdog Israel. Last week, Iran, a country with eight times the population of Israel, sent a wave of drones, ballistic and cruise missiles, toward Israel. Fortunately, with US military assistance, Israel was able to shoot down 99% of the incoming explosives. and the only serious injury was to a 7-year old Bedouin girl. Would the people objecting to military assistance to Israel, preferred that there were instead massive casualties?

Actually, as a person who objects to military assistance to Israel, I would have preferred that Israel not have provoked the Iranian response by committing war crimes in destroying a foreign diplomatic facility, murdering diplomats, and then expecting people to just turn the page when they conjured up another Israeli lie about the occupants of the diplomatic facility.

#stopIsraelsupport

I get it. You wanted the Iranian drones and cruise missiles to cause mass casualties. Sorry you were disappointed.

Wow, this is your takeaway from his post? It must be one of two things: either English isn't your first language, or, sorry to say, you have a low IQ.

Does that mean that you didn't want the Iranian drones and cruise missiles to cause mass casualties? Speak plainly please!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think these protestors should do what many young American Jews have done - buy a plane ticket, pick up a rifle, and demonstrate the strength of their convictions that way

But if they even tried to do that they’d probably be strapped to missiles by Hamas the next day

LARPing clowns

Nothing is more heroic than serving in the country you retreat to while never joining the armed forces of the country you live in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

These are protests about non-negotiable human values.

I don’t think it’s because of the “the Jews”. The confounding variable is time. Today’s world is way-way more connected than the 1940’s or even the early 2000’s. Our communities have merged. People hear the stories of those in Gaza because modern media and network connections enable them. Stop with the “it’s all anti-Semitic” bs. The world sees what is happening and doesn’t like it. If today’s world with today’s technology was watching Dresden, Hiroshima, etc unfold, they would watch in horror and disgust.

The world did watch in disgust when Israel was attacked. But times have changed over the last several months and memories are short.

Agree with this, and I'll add that supporters of Israel make it REALLY hard to galvanize others with their actual indifference to human life that isn't Jewish. It's much more than saying the words "I'm as upset as the next person at what's happening in Gaza". It rings hollow when the next sentence is something, something, 10/7. Or "all of this would end if Hamas would just surrender"!

Everybody understands that those are talking points crafted to change the subject and impose conditions that everyone already understands are an impossibility at this time. 10/7 cannot be undone, and Hamas is a movement (not the physical manifestation of a movement).

The problem is that all of the people crying genocide have the goal of Israel being found guilty of a war crime and dismantled. That is the subtext of the protests. If the war stopped now and Israel continued to exist as is they would not be happy, they would move the goalposts post, telling the public another reason why Israel needs to go on public trial. So I don't see the protestors acting in good faith and cannot advocate for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

These are protests about non-negotiable human values.

I don’t think it’s because of the “the Jews”. The confounding variable is time. Today’s world is way-way more connected than the 1940’s or even the early 2000’s. Our communities have merged. People hear the stories of those in Gaza because modern media and network connections enable them. Stop with the “it’s all anti-Semitic” bs. The world sees what is happening and doesn’t like it. If today’s world with today’s technology was watching Dresden, Hiroshima, etc unfold, they would watch in horror and disgust.

The world did watch in disgust when Israel was attacked. But times have changed over the last several months and memories are short.

Agree with this, and I'll add that supporters of Israel make it REALLY hard to galvanize others with their actual indifference to human life that isn't Jewish. It's much more than saying the words "I'm as upset as the next person at what's happening in Gaza". It rings hollow when the next sentence is something, something, 10/7. Or "all of this would end if Hamas would just surrender"!

Everybody understands that those are talking points crafted to change the subject and impose conditions that everyone already understands are an impossibility at this time. 10/7 cannot be undone, and Hamas is a movement (not the physical manifestation of a movement).

The problem is that all of the people crying genocide have the goal of Israel being found guilty of a war crime and dismantled. That is the subtext of the protests. If the war stopped now and Israel continued to exist as is they would not be happy, they would move the goalposts post, telling the public another reason why Israel needs to go on public trial. So I don't see the protestors acting in good faith and cannot advocate for them.

Negative. Israel stops blowing up the middle east and people will stop paying attention. Americans forget fast. Netanyahu knows this and wants Biden re-elected, so expect things to start to chill in the coming months. Average American will forget. Jews will remember and vote for Biden. The circle of life repeats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel and its supporters make it incredibly easy to support the underdog in this fight, even an underdog that shoots itself in the foot at times.

Yes, the US supports the underdog Israel. Last week, Iran, a country with eight times the population of Israel, sent a wave of drones, ballistic and cruise missiles, toward Israel. Fortunately, with US military assistance, Israel was able to shoot down 99% of the incoming explosives. and the only serious injury was to a 7-year old Bedouin girl. Would the people objecting to military assistance to Israel, preferred that there were instead massive casualties?

Actually, as a person who objects to military assistance to Israel, I would have preferred that Israel not have provoked the Iranian response by committing war crimes in destroying a foreign diplomatic facility, murdering diplomats, and then expecting people to just turn the page when they conjured up another Israeli lie about the occupants of the diplomatic facility.

#stopIsraelsupport

I get it. You wanted the Iranian drones and cruise missiles to cause mass casualties. Sorry you were disappointed.

Wow, this is your takeaway from his post? It must be one of two things: either English isn't your first language, or, sorry to say, you have a low IQ.

Does that mean that you didn't want the Iranian drones and cruise missiles to cause mass casualties? Speak plainly please!

As plainly as possible, that question doesn't even deserve the dignity of a response. Just weird ...