USC and Columbia Protests

[Anonymous]

On the bright side, every student enrolled in a university not being overtaken by violent protests is going to see his/her employment prospects increase.

When I’m reviewing resumes, these Ivy school applications are going into the circular file.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think these protestors should do what many young American Jews have done - buy a plane ticket, pick up a rifle, and demonstrate the strength of their convictions that way

But if they even tried to do that they’d probably be strapped to missiles by Hamas the next day

LARPing clowns

Most don't have the courage to fight in a war.

[Anonymous]

Columbia is now online for remainder of year.

$80,000 a year for Zoom University while camping outdoors.

[Anonymous]

When does semester end for Columbia? Eventually these students will have to pack up and move out of dorms.

[Anonymous]

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These are protests about non-negotiable human values.

I don’t think it’s because of the “the Jews”. The confounding variable is time. Today’s world is way-way more connected than the 1940’s or even the early 2000’s. Our communities have merged. People hear the stories of those in Gaza because modern media and network connections enable them. Stop with the “it’s all anti-Semitic” bs. The world sees what is happening and doesn’t like it. If today’s world with today’s technology was watching Dresden, Hiroshima, etc unfold, they would watch in horror and disgust.

The world did watch in disgust when Israel was attacked. But times have changed over the last several months and memories are short.

Not so much. Mostly denialism and victim-blaming from the world when Israel was attacked. The LARPing clowns at Columbia were cheering on October 7th and 8th.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think these protestors should do what many young American Jews have done - buy a plane ticket, pick up a rifle, and demonstrate the strength of their convictions that way

But if they even tried to do that they’d probably be strapped to missiles by Hamas the next day

LARPing clowns

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

These are protests about non-negotiable human values.

I don’t think it’s because of the “the Jews”. The confounding variable is time. Today’s world is way-way more connected than the 1940’s or even the early 2000’s. Our communities have merged. People hear the stories of those in Gaza because modern media and network connections enable them. Stop with the “it’s all anti-Semitic” bs. The world sees what is happening and doesn’t like it. If today’s world with today’s technology was watching Dresden, Hiroshima, etc unfold, they would watch in horror and disgust.

The world did watch in disgust when Israel was attacked. But times have changed over the last several months and memories are short.

Agree with this, and I'll add that supporters of Israel make it REALLY hard to galvanize others with their actual indifference to human life that isn't Jewish. It's much more than saying the words "I'm as upset as the next person at what's happening in Gaza". It rings hollow when the next sentence is something, something, 10/7. Or "all of this would end if Hamas would just surrender"!

Everybody understands that those are talking points crafted to change the subject and impose conditions that everyone already understands are an impossibility at this time. 10/7 cannot be undone, and Hamas is a movement (not the physical manifestation of a movement).

The problem is that all of the people crying genocide have the goal of Israel being found guilty of a war crime and dismantled. That is the subtext of the protests. If the war stopped now and Israel continued to exist as is they would not be happy, they would move the goalposts post, telling the public another reason why Israel needs to go on public trial. So I don't see the protestors acting in good faith and cannot advocate for them.

Negative. Israel stops blowing up the middle east and people will stop paying attention. Americans forget fast. Netanyahu knows this and wants Biden re-elected, so expect things to start to chill in the coming months. Average American will forget. Jews will remember and vote for Biden. The circle of life repeats.

Israel doesn't have to do what Iran wants (notice I didn't say Middle East as you did), that fact seems to bother you. The U.S. doesn't need what Iran wants either. The protestors are advocating for Iran's interest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think these protestors should do what many young American Jews have done - buy a plane ticket, pick up a rifle, and demonstrate the strength of their convictions that way

But if they even tried to do that they’d probably be strapped to missiles by Hamas the next day

LARPing clowns

Most don't have the courage to fight in a war.

+100
Can you even imagine any of them volunteering to go fight in this war? I can't even express the disdain I have for these morons.

[Anonymous]

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Actually, as a person who objects to military assistance to Israel, I would have preferred that Israel not have provoked the Iranian response by committing war crimes in destroying a foreign diplomatic facility, murdering diplomats, and then expecting people to just turn the page when they conjured up another Israeli lie about the occupants of the diplomatic facility.

#stopIsraelsupport

And I would have preferred that Hamas didn't commit mass murder of 1200 civilians and kidnapping of 250 others on October 7. But we don't always get what we prefer.

[Anonymous]

Columbia’s anti-Israel encampment and protests have included physical intimidation of Jewish students and antisemitic declarations. In October 2023, 100 Columbia professors signed a letter defending students who had flooded the campus in support of Hamas’s “military action” on Oct. 7. Columbia has every right to restrict speech or actions that threaten other students.

Protesters also don’t have a “right” to assemble on school property to disrupt the functioning of the university or intimidate students on the way to class. Even at a public university, all these rules would constitute reasonable restrictions on the time, place and manner of speech.

This new progressive embrace of free speech rings especially hollow after years of student and faculty attempts to ban conservative speakers from campus and punish students for alleged micro-aggressions. Those who once claimed speech is violence now claim violence is speech. They don’t understand the Constitution any better than they understand the Middle East.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/campus-free-speech-first-amendment-columbia-protests-palestine-israel-hamas-3ff5092d?mod=opinion_lead_pos3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Actually, as a person who objects to military assistance to Israel, I would have preferred that Israel not have provoked the Iranian response by committing war crimes in destroying a foreign diplomatic facility, murdering diplomats, and then expecting people to just turn the page when they conjured up another Israeli lie about the occupants of the diplomatic facility.

#stopIsraelsupport

And I would have preferred that Hamas didn't commit mass murder of 1200 civilians and kidnapping of 250 others on October 7. But we don't always get what we prefer.

+1000
Truly amazing that this has to be reiterated over and over.

[Anonymous]

From The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/04/columbia-university-protests-palestine/678159/?gift=mg7b1AqRHrzgE279scHT_JqGAaK-cEdHC33cpDj0ano&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

The Unreality of Columbia’s ‘Liberated Zone’
What happens when genuine sympathy for civilian suffering mixes with a fervor that borders on the oppressive?

By Michael Powell

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bad move by both university presidents. How do these people get paid huge salaries and then make such stupid decisions. Arresting students by NYPD police in riot gear? Of course, that is going to end badly. Stupid move by USC too. And who has a graduation with no outside speakers? These high level administrators seem completely clueless and out of touch with their student bodies.

Ot yo be mean but what about all the other kids that want just to study and graduate? Now they have to go home? Great end to senior year. DC is considering Columbia and I don't know if we will accept over this chaos and virtual classes. It is unfair that after working so hard to get on she has to thi k about if the school will be safe, sane and can still result in a good job. Donors starting g to leave. Not good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On the bright side, every student enrolled in a university not being overtaken by violent protests is going to see his/her employment prospects increase.

When I’m reviewing resumes, these Ivy school applications are going into the circular file.

Fortunately, it’s not entirely Zionists and RWNJs making hiring decisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think these protestors should do what many young American Jews have done - buy a plane ticket, pick up a rifle, and demonstrate the strength of their convictions that way

But if they even tried to do that they’d probably be strapped to missiles by Hamas the next day

LARPing clowns

Most don't have the courage to fight in a war.

Said the keyboard warrior IDF wanna-be.