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Anonymous wrote:If my kids played for Valor, I would be thrilled about this thread. A lot less competition for their spots at tryouts with people reading this thread and taking a hard pass.

What club is your kid at if not Valor? Any recommendations?

Definitely Loudoun. They care deeply about all their players and are really heavy of team development not just fast and aggressive kids running through people with the ball whole the ready of the team watches. Really great success rates for professional careers!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If my kids played for Valor, I would be thrilled about this thread. A lot less competition for their spots at tryouts with people reading this thread and taking a hard pass.

What club is your kid at if not Valor? Any recommendations?

Definitely Loudoun. They care deeply about all their players and are really heavy of team development not just fast and aggressive kids running through people with the ball whole the ready of the team watches. Really great success rates for professional careers!

Lol all clubs are similar. Very untrue of loudoun soccer. Nepotism is a staple there. And very much like valor its about money. If you aren't on NVA or RL forget about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If my kids played for Valor, I would be thrilled about this thread. A lot less competition for their spots at tryouts with people reading this thread and taking a hard pass.

What club is your kid at if not Valor? Any recommendations?

Definitely Loudoun. They care deeply about all their players and are really heavy of team development not just fast and aggressive kids running through people with the ball whole the ready of the team watches. Really great success rates for professional careers!

Lol all clubs are similar. Very untrue of loudoun soccer. Nepotism is a staple there. And very much like valor it's about money. If you aren't on NVA or RL forget about it.

This might be true, but I've seen more footskills in ulittle Loudoun girls than Valor girls.

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Anonymous wrote:Valor steals money from the rec league.

The institution strategically does this. I blame the leadership and other coaches for churching up the level of play. Its all smoke a mirrors until you have 20 losses and zero wins.

We previously played in a rec league that doesn't have an associated travel team and everything was so much better - like down to the uniforms, fields, and even the team photographers were all nicer and more professional. And it cost LESS than CYA.

My HS kid played one season of SYA house/recreational soccer after we moved here. It was incredibly expensive for rec ($220) and then we had to buy two shirts for $45, then we had to go buy numbers adn iron on the numbers ourselves, which was a hassle and just odd. Show up for the first practice and the high school house league team is assigned a muddy field covered in dog poop. Big holes throughout the field. Coach told the kids to jog, not run, so they didn't break an ankle. The balls kept going into the woods. There were no nets on the goals which were just football posts. The park had beautiful artificial fields--being practiced on by little Valor travel players. Joined a different club the next season out of principle, frankly. Given that the high school rec team was almost all Hispanic kids and the little travel kids were almost all white or Asian....it was a really bad look for whoever assigns those fields. Still don't understand what the $220 was for-the coach was a volunteer and the season was just 7 games-some of them against other SYA house league teams--and no tournament. If the money was being siphoned off for the travel league, that really pisses me off given they already got the good practice fields!

That is 100% what happens. Travel steals money from rec leagues.

If it was the last two seasons, then your kid played in SFl for free as they were spending down their accounts-meaning your league didn't pay a league fee to play in SFL. But let's say it was a season SFL charged their usual @$100 per team.

220 x (18? players on a rec team) = $3960. They pay referees less for SFl games then club games, so maybe $150 per game at most for the AR and the sideline-probably less--for referees, for 4 home games. There is no county fee for grass field permits. The coach worked for free. Say they gave your coach a game ball ($20) and lent him some pinnies/cones for the season ($30).

That's a @$3210 profit PER rec team, minus what should be pretty neglible admin/insurance fees (but also sounds like they got a kickback on those overpriced jerseys).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Valor steals money from the rec league.

The institution strategically does this. I blame the leadership and other coaches for churching up the level of play. Its all smoke a mirrors until you have 20 losses and zero wins.

We previously played in a rec league that doesn't have an associated travel team and everything was so much better - like down to the uniforms, fields, and even the team photographers were all nicer and more professional. And it cost LESS than CYA.

My HS kid played one season of SYA house/recreational soccer after we moved here. It was incredibly expensive for rec ($220) and then we had to buy two shirts for $45, then we had to go buy numbers adn iron on the numbers ourselves, which was a hassle and just odd. Show up for the first practice and the high school house league team is assigned a muddy field covered in dog poop. Big holes throughout the field. Coach told the kids to jog, not run, so they didn't break an ankle. The balls kept going into the woods. There were no nets on the goals which were just football posts. The park had beautiful artificial fields--being practiced on by little Valor travel players. Joined a different club the next season out of principle, frankly. Given that the high school rec team was almost all Hispanic kids and the little travel kids were almost all white or Asian....it was a really bad look for whoever assigns those fields. Still don't understand what the $220 was for-the coach was a volunteer and the season was just 7 games-some of them against other SYA house league teams--and no tournament. If the money was being siphoned off for the travel league, that really pisses me off given they already got the good practice fields!

That is 100% what happens. Travel steals money from rec leagues.

If it was the last two seasons, then your kid played in SFl for free as they were spending down their accounts-meaning your league didn't pay a league fee to play in SFL. But let's say it was a season SFL charged their usual @$100 per team.

220 x (18? players on a rec team) = $3960. They pay referees less for SFl games then club games, so maybe $150 per game at most for the AR and the sideline-probably less--for referees, for 4 home games. There is no county fee for grass field permits. The coach worked for free. Say they gave your coach a game ball ($20) and lent him some pinnies/cones for the season ($30).

That's a @$3210 profit PER rec team, minus what should be pretty neglible admin/insurance fees (but also sounds like they got a kickback on those overpriced jerseys).

That's pretty shocking. Where does all the money go?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If my kids played for Valor, I would be thrilled about this thread. A lot less competition for their spots at tryouts with people reading this thread and taking a hard pass.

What club is your kid at if not Valor? Any recommendations?

Definitely Loudoun. They care deeply about all their players and are really heavy of team development not just fast and aggressive kids running through people with the ball whole the ready of the team watches. Really great success rates for professional careers!

Lol all clubs are similar. Very untrue of loudoun soccer. Nepotism is a staple there. And very much like valor it's about money. If you aren't on NVA or RL forget about it.

This might be true, but I've seen more footskills in ulittle Loudoun girls than Valor girls.

Less to do with coaching more to do with quality of player and outside training. Being I've had 4 kids go thru loudoun and younger ones in valor. You want technical development you pay for outside training like HP elite. Clubs want money not necessarily care about development. Then ID kids can play at there top teams. But trust me those kids are there because of natural talent, outside training and a drive.

[Anonymous]

They practice three times a week even the u-little kids. What are they doing in practice if they aren't working on footskills at all?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If my kids played for Valor, I would be thrilled about this thread. A lot less competition for their spots at tryouts with people reading this thread and taking a hard pass.

What club is your kid at if not Valor? Any recommendations?

"Definitely Loudoun. They care deeply about all their players and are really heavy of team development not just fast and aggressive kids running through people with the ball whole the ready of the team watches. Really great success rates for professional careers!"

Lol all clubs are similar. Very untrue of loudoun soccer. Nepotism is a staple there. And very much like valor its about money. If you aren't on NVA or RL forget about it.

OP here. That was 100% sarcasm posting. Loudoun does the exact opposite of what I listed lol. They are bleeding players, officially younger and lower team players right now because of it.

Nepotism is 100% true. If you have a kid already in the travel program a younger sibling can to walk straight onto at least a lower team whether they've ever played soccer before or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They practice three times a week even the u-little kids. What are they doing in practice if they aren't working on footskills at all?

Scrimmaging where only 2 kids are actually touching the ball.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If my kids played for Valor, I would be thrilled about this thread. A lot less competition for their spots at tryouts with people reading this thread and taking a hard pass.

What club is your kid at if not Valor? Any recommendations?

Definitely Loudoun. They care deeply about all their players and are really heavy of team development not just fast and aggressive kids running through people with the ball whole the ready of the team watches. Really great success rates for professional careers!

Lol all clubs are similar. Very untrue of loudoun soccer. Nepotism is a staple there. And very much like valor it's about money. If you aren't on NVA or RL forget about it.

This might be true, but I've seen more footskills in ulittle Loudoun girls than Valor girls.

Less to do with coaching more to do with quality of player and outside training. Being I've had 4 kids go thru loudoun and younger ones in valor. You want technical development you pay for outside training like HP elite. Clubs want money not necessarily care about development. Then ID kids can play at there top teams. But trust me those kids are there because of natural talent, outside training and a drive.

I watched numerous loudoun girls straight trip over the ball whole dribbling in games last season... if loudoun parents aren't paying for outside training the foot skills are not there even on the higher teams at the younger age groups. It's embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If my kids played for Valor, I would be thrilled about this thread. A lot less competition for their spots at tryouts with people reading this thread and taking a hard pass.

What club is your kid at if not Valor? Any recommendations?

"Definitely Loudoun. They care deeply about all their players and are really heavy of team development not just fast and aggressive kids running through people with the ball whole the ready of the team watches. Really great success rates for professional careers!"

Lol all clubs are similar. Very untrue of loudoun soccer. Nepotism is a staple there. And very much like valor its about money. If you aren't on NVA or RL forget about it.

OP here. That was 100% sarcasm posting. Loudoun does the exact opposite of what I listed lol. They are bleeding players, officially younger and lower team players right now because of it.

Nepotism is 100% true. If you have a kid already in the travel program a younger sibling can to walk straight onto at least a lower team whether they've ever played soccer before or not.

True. If you look at families there it's very interesting to see 3 or 4 siblings all playing on travel teams. I get it's convenient to have your kids all in one place but you can watch the kids and sue some are good other kids wouldn't even make a bottom team at other clubs.

I get most of you are just hate posting but I don't feel like this is as big a problem at Valor and why they'll catch up to Loudoun in the future if loudoun just keeps Fielding subpar siblings on travel teams.

[Anonymous]

Given people have posted about kids leaving rec for Valor and then returning from Valor not having gotten any better at soccer, it seems they aren't doing much at practice at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If my kids played for Valor, I would be thrilled about this thread. A lot less competition for their spots at tryouts with people reading this thread and taking a hard pass.

What club is your kid at if not Valor? Any recommendations?

"Definitely Loudoun. They care deeply about all their players and are really heavy of team development not just fast and aggressive kids running through people with the ball whole the ready of the team watches. Really great success rates for professional careers!"

Lol all clubs are similar. Very untrue of loudoun soccer. Nepotism is a staple there. And very much like valor its about money. If you aren't on NVA or RL forget about it.

OP here. That was 100% sarcasm posting. Loudoun does the exact opposite of what I listed lol. They are bleeding players, officially younger and lower team players right now because of it.

Nepotism is 100% true. If you have a kid already in the travel program a younger sibling can to walk straight onto at least a lower team whether they've ever played soccer before or not.

True. If you look at families there it's very interesting to see 3 or 4 siblings all playing on travel teams. I get it's convenient to have your kids all in one place but you can watch the kids and sue some are good other kids wouldn't even make a bottom team at other clubs.

I get most of you are just hate posting but I don't feel like this is as big a problem at Valor and why they'll catch up to Loudoun in the future if loudoun just keeps Fielding subpar siblings on travel teams.

What are you taking about? Valor does the same thing! 😂 they also take all the loudoun kids that couldn't even make a bottom team or live in southern loudoun and that's it. They'll be gone in the next 5 years. They'll merge with someone bigger, Loudoun if they are feeling nice, and that'll be that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Given people have posted about kids leaving rec for Valor and then returning from Valor not having gotten any better at soccer, it seems they aren't doing much at practice at all.

Confirmed!

[Anonymous]

Hate-posting is what makes this forum so great. It would be completely uninteresting otherwise.