What can American women learn from foreign women?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since there are quite a few men, on here and in the wild, who seem to look abroad for romantic relationships and consider foreign or foreign-born women higher value. Since I can’t change my nation of birth, what lessons can I learn from foreign women (any nationality) that make them more appealing?

To address the stereotypes: I’m not fat or even close to it, I’m not bossy, I don’t *think* I act entitled although I can’t really judge that myself, I don’t rant about the “patriarchy,” I don’t have tattoos or blue hair, and I don’t think gender norms are inherently bad.

I can definitely tell you why....
1. The most important thing is to drop all of this feminist crap that American woman have bought into. Foreign women understand gender roles so much better than Americans. Let me give a very small example. My fiancé will sit me at the head of the table and actually put all my foot on my plate when we sit down for dinner at home. The thing is, I honestly don't care about being served and am not the kind of guy that demands this kind of service. But it's such a beautiful way of a woman to express appreciation and hard work from a guy. I actually have ways of expressing the same for her. I show her the greatest amount of respect. I try to protect her and I always put her first. You see, American women rarely understands this and will even get offended by the idea of this. They automatically think that a man is searching for some kind of weak willed submissive woman when that is far from the case. Foreign women are much stronger and talented than their American counterparts. I'm sorry, but most American women will never be able to compete with foreign women.
2. Take care of yourself. Dress nice, take pride in your appearance. Foreign women take MUCH better care of themselves and dress so much nicer than American women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since there are quite a few men, on here and in the wild, who seem to look abroad for romantic relationships and consider foreign or foreign-born women higher value. Since I can’t change my nation of birth, what lessons can I learn from foreign women (any nationality) that make them more appealing?

To address the stereotypes: I’m not fat or even close to it, I’m not bossy, I don’t *think* I act entitled although I can’t really judge that myself, I don’t rant about the “patriarchy,” I don’t have tattoos or blue hair, and I don’t think gender norms are inherently bad.

I can definitely tell you why....
1. The most important thing is to drop all of this feminist crap that American woman have bought into. Foreign women understand gender roles so much better than Americans. Let me give a very small example. My fiancé will sit me at the head of the table and actually put all my foot on my plate when we sit down for dinner at home. The thing is, I honestly don't care about being served and am not the kind of guy that demands this kind of service. But it's such a beautiful way of a woman to express appreciation and hard work from a guy. I actually have ways of expressing the same for her. I show her the greatest amount of respect. I try to protect her and I always put her first. You see, American women rarely understands this and will even get offended by the idea of this. They automatically think that a man is searching for some kind of weak willed submissive woman when that is far from the case. Foreign women are much stronger and talented than their American counterparts. I'm sorry, but most American women will never be able to compete with foreign women.
2. Take care of yourself. Dress nice, take pride in your appearance. Foreign women take MUCH better care of themselves and dress so much nicer than American women.

I don’t think usha Vance is attractive but she clearly leans into , is always looking with fawning eyes at jd

A white waspy woman who went to Y and YLS wont do that unless you are Tom Brady or someone equivalent

Effectively American white women have priced themselves out of the value they bring

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since there are quite a few men, on here and in the wild, who seem to look abroad for romantic relationships and consider foreign or foreign-born women higher value. Since I can’t change my nation of birth, what lessons can I learn from foreign women (any nationality) that make them more appealing?

To address the stereotypes: I’m not fat or even close to it, I’m not bossy, I don’t *think* I act entitled although I can’t really judge that myself, I don’t rant about the “patriarchy,” I don’t have tattoos or blue hair, and I don’t think gender norms are inherently bad.

I can definitely tell you why....
1. The most important thing is to drop all of this feminist crap that American woman have bought into. Foreign women understand gender roles so much better than Americans. Let me give a very small example. My fiancé will sit me at the head of the table and actually put all my foot on my plate when we sit down for dinner at home. The thing is, I honestly don't care about being served and am not the kind of guy that demands this kind of service. But it's such a beautiful way of a woman to express appreciation and hard work from a guy. I actually have ways of expressing the same for her. I show her the greatest amount of respect. I try to protect her and I always put her first. You see, American women rarely understands this and will even get offended by the idea of this. They automatically think that a man is searching for some kind of weak willed submissive woman when that is far from the case. Foreign women are much stronger and talented than their American counterparts. I'm sorry, but most American women will never be able to compete with foreign women.
2. Take care of yourself. Dress nice, take pride in your appearance. Foreign women take MUCH better care of themselves and dress so much nicer than American women.

I’m a foreign born woman (Eastern European) and find your post shallow and untrue. Trust me - after a few years she’ll stop serving you dinner and will ask to clean up after yourself.
Regarding talented and beautiful - it’s not because they are “foreign”. The crowd in Moscow metro is not better dressed or better looking than the crowd in Washington DC. The obesity is taking over in many European countries. Teenage alcoholism and smoking are prevalent in Poland and Ukraine.
The reason why women of foreign origin you meet here are smarter/more beautiful is because these are immigrants from upper social class in their countries. Those who made it to the top educationally and professionally in birth countries, and are driven enough to move for better professional prospects, or political reasons, to continue the family success.
The social class is strongly correlated to looks because these people have means to eat heathy and for skin care. My great grandparents had college degrees and worked as doctors, teachers and served in the military in early 20s century. An average American would be first or second generation with college degree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since there are quite a few men, on here and in the wild, who seem to look abroad for romantic relationships and consider foreign or foreign-born women higher value. Since I can’t change my nation of birth, what lessons can I learn from foreign women (any nationality) that make them more appealing?

To address the stereotypes: I’m not fat or even close to it, I’m not bossy, I don’t *think* I act entitled although I can’t really judge that myself, I don’t rant about the “patriarchy,” I don’t have tattoos or blue hair, and I don’t think gender norms are inherently bad.

I can definitely tell you why....
1. The most important thing is to drop all of this feminist crap that American woman have bought into. Foreign women understand gender roles so much better than Americans. Let me give a very small example. My fiancé will sit me at the head of the table and actually put all my foot on my plate when we sit down for dinner at home. The thing is, I honestly don't care about being served and am not the kind of guy that demands this kind of service. But it's such a beautiful way of a woman to express appreciation and hard work from a guy. I actually have ways of expressing the same for her. I show her the greatest amount of respect. I try to protect her and I always put her first. You see, American women rarely understands this and will even get offended by the idea of this. They automatically think that a man is searching for some kind of weak willed submissive woman when that is far from the case. Foreign women are much stronger and talented than their American counterparts. I'm sorry, but most American women will never be able to compete with foreign women.
2. Take care of yourself. Dress nice, take pride in your appearance. Foreign women take MUCH better care of themselves and dress so much nicer than American women.

I don’t think usha Vance is attractive but she clearly leans into , is always looking with fawning eyes at jd

A white waspy woman who went to Y and YLS wont do that unless you are Tom Brady or someone equivalent

Effectively American white women have priced themselves out of the value they bring

Usha grew up in SoCal. She is American.

[Anonymous]

I can definitely tell you why....
1. The most important thing is to drop all of this feminist crap that American woman have bought into. Foreign women understand gender roles so much better than Americans. Let me give a very small example. My fiancé will sit me at the head of the table and actually put all my foot on my plate when we sit down for dinner at home. The thing is, I honestly don't care about being served and am not the kind of guy that demands this kind of service. But it's such a beautiful way of a woman to express appreciation and hard work from a guy. I actually have ways of expressing the same for her. I show her the greatest amount of respect. I try to protect her and I always put her first. You see, American women rarely understands this and will even get offended by the idea of this. They automatically think that a man is searching for some kind of weak willed submissive woman when that is far from the case. Foreign women are much stronger and talented than their American counterparts. I'm sorry, but most American women will never be able to compete with foreign women.
2. Take care of yourself. Dress nice, take pride in your appearance. Foreign women take MUCH better care of themselves and dress so much nicer than American women.

"I honestly don't care about being served but drop the feminist crap and seat me at the head of the table".

Buddy, there are so many ways partners can show love and appreciation for each other, including serving each other. Your post is the exact opposite of that and is dripping with contempt.

On behalf of American women, thank you to the brave woman who threw herself on this grenade of a man.

[Anonymous]

American hard! After becoming a widower and entering the dating scene, I found American women the most unattractive. I only went for immigrants, most specifically the Asian aisle (now married). They know how to treat a man.

[Anonymous]

LOL. This post and responses are hilarious.

Most are trying to get a green card. Or in the instance of first generation like Usha, just want a man they feel can elevate their social status. Even if he is 5'7 with mommy issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:American hard! After becoming a widower and entering the dating scene, I found American women the most unattractive. I only went for immigrants, most specifically the Asian aisle (now married). They know how to treat a man.

I don't know - have a friend who is Asian and she struggles dating. There are many Asian single women on dating apps and if they live in the US for a while, they tend to be overweight
Asian women are also very transactional (the prior dating stories I heard from men)

[Anonymous]

American women wear headphones / AirPods everywhere way more frequently than foreign (even if limiting it to white Western Europeans) women

American women are like children with the neee for constant external stimulation. A lack of rich interior lives

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since there are quite a few men, on here and in the wild, who seem to look abroad for romantic relationships and consider foreign or foreign-born women higher value. Since I can’t change my nation of birth, what lessons can I learn from foreign women (any nationality) that make them more appealing?

To address the stereotypes: I’m not fat or even close to it, I’m not bossy, I don’t *think* I act entitled although I can’t really judge that myself, I don’t rant about the “patriarchy,” I don’t have tattoos or blue hair, and I don’t think gender norms are inherently bad.

I can definitely tell you why....
1. The most important thing is to drop all of this feminist crap that American woman have bought into. Foreign women understand gender roles so much better than Americans. Let me give a very small example. My fiancé will sit me at the head of the table and actually put all my foot on my plate when we sit down for dinner at home. The thing is, I honestly don't care about being served and am not the kind of guy that demands this kind of service. But it's such a beautiful way of a woman to express appreciation and hard work from a guy. I actually have ways of expressing the same for her. I show her the greatest amount of respect. I try to protect her and I always put her first. You see, American women rarely understands this and will even get offended by the idea of this. They automatically think that a man is searching for some kind of weak willed submissive woman when that is far from the case. Foreign women are much stronger and talented than their American counterparts. I'm sorry, but most American women will never be able to compete with foreign women.
2. Take care of yourself. Dress nice, take pride in your appearance. Foreign women take MUCH better care of themselves and dress so much nicer than American women.

Sorry you are rejected by American women

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LOL. This post and responses are hilarious.

Most are trying to get a green card. Or in the instance of first generation like Usha, just want a man they feel can elevate their social status. Even if he is 5'7 with mommy issues.

Jd is 6’2”

[Anonymous]

That we really should wear deodorant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DH is a first generation immigrant from a poor country, and I definitely felt more attracted to him than American men. He is extremely hardworking (worked through college and graduate school), very humble and masculine. IME many American men are not very hardworking, complain a lot and aren’t generally ambitious. My DH’s culture would never allow a woman to pay for a date, for example, and I dated men before him who expected me to split the bill or complained about women using them.

That's a bit of self-selection, given he is an immigrant. Have you ever lived abroad and observed the locals? We are in Europe for a temporary assignment and I have to say people seem nowhere near ambitious as Americans. Literally no work gets done in the summer.

Our AMBITION is to not work in the summer. That is the European dream. Sitting by the sea with friends, having a glass of wine. The absolute pinnacle of life.

Have fun chasing the mcmansions!

Lazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since there are quite a few men, on here and in the wild, who seem to look abroad for romantic relationships and consider foreign or foreign-born women higher value. Since I can’t change my nation of birth, what lessons can I learn from foreign women (any nationality) that make them more appealing?

To address the stereotypes: I’m not fat or even close to it, I’m not bossy, I don’t *think* I act entitled although I can’t really judge that myself, I don’t rant about the “patriarchy,” I don’t have tattoos or blue hair, and I don’t think gender norms are inherently bad.

Quality men don't think foreign women are "higher value." Yuck, what are we in a stockyard valuing the bulls and cows?!

Watch a couple episodes of 90 Day Fiancee and all your questions will be answered.

So true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since there are quite a few men, on here and in the wild, who seem to look abroad for romantic relationships and consider foreign or foreign-born women higher value. Since I can’t change my nation of birth, what lessons can I learn from foreign women (any nationality) that make them more appealing?

To address the stereotypes: I’m not fat or even close to it, I’m not bossy, I don’t *think* I act entitled although I can’t really judge that myself, I don’t rant about the “patriarchy,” I don’t have tattoos or blue hair, and I don’t think gender norms are inherently bad.

The men looking for foreign women are not the men you want. They want dolls to look at and clean for them. Men look for foreign women, because American women don’t have to be pretty to be happy and successful in life. That makes men crazy. Women no longer live for men’s approval - they can live a great life on their own terms.

Yep this!