Arl Dems Caucus Endorsement - School Board - In the Candidates' Words

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Anonymous wrote:So here is Turner's answer on this question, which strikes me as a reasonable one:

As a parent of an elementary student, I would like to know if you support standards-based grading. For my high school students, I would also like to know whether you support the recently adopted homework policy stating high school students cannot be given more than “a maximum of a total of 60 minutes per week per course.”

Turner: Certainly I support grading that is based on standards. However, as a parent of two APS students at a school that has adopted standards-based grading, I have concerns with the practice as it’s currently being implemented. First, the terminology is confusing and a student’s level is not easily intuited from the scale. “Approaching mastery,” for example, sounds in some ways like a higher ranking than “meets standard,” but it isn’t. “Insufficient evidence” makes it sound simply like a student hasn’t yet done any work that can be evaluated, but apparently it’s meant to be the lowest end of a four-tier scale. While there is no magic to a traditional “A through E” letter-grade scale, or a numeric scale, it is important that parents and students be able to derive some meaning from their grade, and SBG seems to lack that quality. In addition, while this is a problem for many parents, I have particularly heard some parents in the Hispanic community express confusion and concern that they are not able to tell how their children are doing in school. This is a barrier to full engagement with the education of one’s child, and seemingly a needless one.

Second, the scale lacks an option to reflect that a student may be exceeding whatever standard applies to a particular skill. It’s just as important for parents to understand areas in which their student excels as it is areas where their student may struggle, in order to appreciate a child’s talents and encourage them to thrive.

That’s a good answer and I didn’t understand “insufficient evidence” until just now. Sounds like this needs some work. Thanks for posting this.

IMO, the SBG categories are just as useless as the current "comments" categories where teachers indicate "meets, exceeds" etc. in various categories such as responsibility (what does that mean?), etc. I really don't understand the point of SBG when the more detailed information about how a student is doing - their strengths and weaknesses - can just as easily be explained alongside an overall letter grade. It just seems to me, that in theory, SBG is the same as our current system only without the actual numerical system and letter grades.

I pulled a kid out of APS and into Catholic school and one of the things I'm most pleased about is that the teacher comments are actually meaningful. The way APS does report cards is nonsensical. Catholic schools also use letter grades. And if you don't turn in an assignment you get a zero. I wish APS would return to a more traditional approach to these things!

[Anonymous]

I was talking to DH about "the kid" and my disbelief at how many people are declaring him qualified just based on his being young. DH's response, which I thought was brilliant, was "Would all these same people still think he was qualified if he was running as a Republican?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was talking to DH about "the kid" and my disbelief at how many people are declaring him qualified just based on his being young. DH's response, which I thought was brilliant, was "Would all these same people still think he was qualified if he was running as a Republican?"

Talked to a parent after school today. They were very covid cautious. Not fans of APE. They needed no further explanation about why they should vote for MT after learning AC is 22.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was talking to DH about "the kid" and my disbelief at how many people are declaring him qualified just based on his being young. DH's response, which I thought was brilliant, was "Would all these same people still think he was qualified if he was running as a Republican?"

I think we all know the answer to that question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

[Anonymous]

Earlier someone posted a google doc about Miranda and her qualifications and positions but it's gone now. Anyone know why?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

He could have but he didn't want to play APE's game. Good for him. APE isn't a legit org. They're a lobbying group, and right now they exist to elect Miranda.

He answered the AGIA questions so it's not like he's against answering questions from a LEGIT group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

He could have but he didn't want to play APE's game. Good for him. APE isn't a legit org. They're a lobbying group, and right now they exist to elect Miranda.

He answered the AGIA questions so it's not like he's against answering questions from a LEGIT group.

You do you. I like seeing what they asked about and what her answers were. Same for all the questionnaires she shared. Seems irrelevant that he didn't answer. Can't imagine he's going to win and no one will remember him in a year from now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

I completely agree that the APEs' derangement runs deep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

What is wrong with their little questionnaire is that it is APE is not an objective community org and its little questionnaire isn't objective either. It's tailored to the questions Miranda wants to answer, based on her stated positions.

Q: "Do you commit to reducing class sizes?"
A: Why yes it's one of my top priorities!"

Golly gee, what a coincidence!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks to the PP posting the crazy links. The claims are demonstrably false and I believe you are interfering in an election. And people say the Miranda's supporters are crazy.....you just proved the opposite.

What links?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

He could have but he didn't want to play APE's game. Good for him. APE isn't a legit org. They're a lobbying group, and right now they exist to elect Miranda.

He answered the AGIA questions so it's not like he's against answering questions from a LEGIT group.

omg I swear you sound like the exact person who would be engaging g in the kind of FB groups and making the same disgusting comments as these people.I wouldn’t even be surprised if you were actually part of a group just like this in Arlington. If Angelo has you a supporter he is exactly the kind of person I don’t want bc I don’t want him bringing crazy people like you along with him

https://wjla.com/news/local/loudoun-love-warriors-facebook-group-threats-buta-biberaj-juli-briskman-ian-serotkin-brenda-sheridan-atoosa-reaser-erika-ogedegbe-craig-buckley-phyllis-randall-puja-khanna-anne-donohuemark-winn-county-school-board-parents#

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

He could have but he didn't want to play APE's game. Good for him. APE isn't a legit org. They're a lobbying group, and right now they exist to elect Miranda.

He answered the AGIA questions so it's not like he's against answering questions from a LEGIT group.

omg I swear you sound like the exact person who would be engaging g in the kind of FB groups and making the same disgusting comments as these people.I wouldn’t even be surprised if you were actually part of a group just like this in Arlington. If Angelo has you a supporter he is exactly the kind of person I don’t want bc I don’t want him bringing crazy people like you along with him

https://wjla.com/news/local/loudoun-love-warriors-facebook-group-threats-buta-biberaj-juli-briskman-ian-serotkin-brenda-sheridan-atoosa-reaser-erika-ogedegbe-craig-buckley-phyllis-randall-puja-khanna-anne-donohuemark-winn-county-school-board-parents#

The pandemic broke some people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Been telling neighbors about the kid and they can’t believe he’s 22. Maybe a couple of them make it out to vote.

So where do the candidates stand on standards based grading?

APE asked about it in the candidate questionnaire: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/school-board-2023. Only Miranda answered. Looks like Angelo didn't bother responding at all. Sounds par for the course. He's a no show at the advisory committee meetings, a no show at at least two forums, no show at his own election, and not bothering to engage with a community group. Whether you like APE or not, not responding is not the action of a community leader who wants to work with everyone.

Maybe that's because there is no separation between APE and MT's campaign? He might as well stop by the Turner family reunion to campaign. And APE has constantly criticized APS for standards-based grading. Just like the missing middle people, they always claim to be opposed to "the process" when anyone proposes something progressive. Frankly, I think it's principled to not respond to APE's questionnaire. I don't want a community leader that touches such a divisive group even with a 10-foot pole.

Agreed. APE is a LOBBYING GROUP. They have been trying to get Miranda elected for years. They may as well be her personal PAC. Angelo is smart to not answer their little questionnaire. He answered the AGIA questionnaire and did a dang good job with it too.

People keep putting him down for his age but he's proving himself to be savvy.

APE derangement runs deep. What is wrong with their "little" questionnaire?

From Miranda's page, it looks like they asked about 1) Remedying subsitute (Gasp!); 2) Standards-based grading (pearl clutch); 3) Reducing class sizes (Pass the smelling salts!); 4) Learning Loss and Achievement gaps (Dastardly!) 5) device usage at schools (villians!)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6041ba6620a81d18855bdb62/t/64512b38322df0273fd9abe7/1683041080616/APE+Miranda+Turner+Responses+April+2023.docx.pdf

It's 5 questions. Written responses. Seems like a fair arrangement so that there was an equal playing field. He could have asked Reid to do his homework for him if he was too busy finishing his finals.

He could have but he didn't want to play APE's game. Good for him. APE isn't a legit org. They're a lobbying group, and right now they exist to elect Miranda.

He answered the AGIA questions so it's not like he's against answering questions from a LEGIT group.

omg I swear you sound like the exact person who would be engaging g in the kind of FB groups and making the same disgusting comments as these people.I wouldn’t even be surprised if you were actually part of a group just like this in Arlington. If Angelo has you a supporter he is exactly the kind of person I don’t want bc I don’t want him bringing crazy people like you along with him

https://wjla.com/news/local/loudoun-love-warriors-facebook-group-threats-buta-biberaj-juli-briskman-ian-serotkin-brenda-sheridan-atoosa-reaser-erika-ogedegbe-craig-buckley-phyllis-randall-puja-khanna-anne-donohuemark-winn-county-school-board-parents#

And here comes the APE/Miranda attack brigade again. Triggered because someone truthfully pointed out that APE is a lobbying group, and that Angelo answered the AGIA questions but not APE's.