Youngkin and TJ

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Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.


Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.


The low-income questions on the TJHSST application this year are “Are you eligible for free meals?" and "Are you currently receiving free meals?"

That’s it. No statement about please answer based on a normal year, please provide a FRM application to get this experience factor. I personally called the TJ admissions office and they confirmed that yes, any parent can check yes for their child if they want because all children get free meals this year.

From the TJ papers, we know that the low-income designation is 90 points, more than twice that of English Language Learners, Special Education etc. There are many problems with TJ admissions and how they determine low income should be added to that list.

Hardworking and HONEST families are again being penalized.



Is it possible to switch your answers to the meals questions? It looks like last year about 50% of the kids that said “yes” got in.
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Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.


Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.


The low-income questions on the TJHSST application this year are “Are you eligible for free meals?" and "Are you currently receiving free meals?"

That’s it. No statement about please answer based on a normal year, please provide a FRM application to get this experience factor. I personally called the TJ admissions office and they confirmed that yes, any parent can check yes for their child if they want because all children get free meals this year.

From the TJ papers, we know that the low-income designation is 90 points, more than twice that of English Language Learners, Special Education etc. There are many problems with TJ admissions and how they determine low income should be added to that list.

Hardworking and HONEST families are again being penalized.



Is it possible to switch your answers to the meals questions? It looks like last year about 50% of the kids that said “yes” got in.

Call TJ and ask them
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Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.


Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.


The low-income questions on the TJHSST application this year are “Are you eligible for free meals?" and "Are you currently receiving free meals?"

That’s it. No statement about please answer based on a normal year, please provide a FRM application to get this experience factor. I personally called the TJ admissions office and they confirmed that yes, any parent can check yes for their child if they want because all children get free meals this year.

From the TJ papers, we know that the low-income designation is 90 points, more than twice that of English Language Learners, Special Education etc. There are many problems with TJ admissions and how they determine low income should be added to that list.

Hardworking and HONEST families are again being penalized.



Is it possible to switch your answers to the meals questions? It looks like last year about 50% of the kids that said “yes” got in.

Call TJ and ask them


Don't call TJ. TJ has nothing to do with their own admissions process. Call the Admissions Office at Gatehouse.
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Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.


Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.


The low-income questions on the TJHSST application this year are “Are you eligible for free meals?" and "Are you currently receiving free meals?"

That’s it. No statement about please answer based on a normal year, please provide a FRM application to get this experience factor. I personally called the TJ admissions office and they confirmed that yes, any parent can check yes for their child if they want because all children get free meals this year.

From the TJ papers, we know that the low-income designation is 90 points, more than twice that of English Language Learners, Special Education etc. There are many problems with TJ admissions and how they determine low income should be added to that list.

Hardworking and HONEST families are again being penalized.



Is it possible to switch your answers to the meals questions? It looks like last year about 50% of the kids that said “yes” got in.

Call TJ and ask them


Don't call TJ. TJ has nothing to do with their own admissions process. Call the Admissions Office at Gatehouse.


DP. +1000. Read that again. TJ's job is to support the students they have by whichever process they are admitted and their administrators report directly to FCPS. Any vitriol directed at them is completely misplaced and unproductive.
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/registration/thomas-jefferson-admissions/welcome/policies-regulations
“The mission of Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology is to provide students with a challenging learning environment focused on math, science, and technology, to inspire joy at the prospect of discovery, and to foster a culture of innovation based on ethical behavior and the shared interests of humanity.”

Fairfax County School Board Policy 3355 established TJHSST as “a high school for science and technology where students with exceptional quantitative skills and interest in science, technology, engineering, or mathematics, can pursue higher levels of academic achievement in those subjects in preparation for the pursuit of a science, technology, engineering, or mathematics focused profession”. Students are selected for TJHSST through a competitive admissions process and the role of the TJHSST Admissions Office is to administer and oversee this process.

We are looking for highly motivated students with diverse backgrounds, talents, and skills, who demonstrate characteristics based on FCPS School Board Policy 3355 and TJHSST’s school mission.

Nothing says that the only selection criteria is a standardized test.




Not sure why we would just not create a second TJ? Instead of becoming more random.
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/registration/thomas-jefferson-admissions/welcome/policies-regulations
“The mission of Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology is to provide students with a challenging learning environment focused on math, science, and technology, to inspire joy at the prospect of discovery, and to foster a culture of innovation based on ethical behavior and the shared interests of humanity.”

Fairfax County School Board Policy 3355 established TJHSST as “a high school for science and technology where students with exceptional quantitative skills and interest in science, technology, engineering, or mathematics, can pursue higher levels of academic achievement in those subjects in preparation for the pursuit of a science, technology, engineering, or mathematics focused profession”. Students are selected for TJHSST through a competitive admissions process and the role of the TJHSST Admissions Office is to administer and oversee this process.

We are looking for highly motivated students with diverse backgrounds, talents, and skills, who demonstrate characteristics based on FCPS School Board Policy 3355 and TJHSST’s school mission.

Nothing says that the only selection criteria is a standardized test.




Not sure why we would just not create a second TJ? Instead of becoming more random.


It would be an eight-figure outlay to create a second TJ. The recent renovation came in at over $100M, not to mention outfitting it with all of their high-end equipment that needs to be replaced on a regular basis. Would be an exceptional burden on the taxpayers and would require a fairly liberal Board of Supervisors to create that kind of cashflow.
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Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.


Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.


The questions were incredibly poorly written. They were written such that even an honest (but possibly clueless) non-low income parent might have checked yes.

If your child has been getting free meals ALL year and you are asked is your child getting free meals, many parents will check yes! It’s ridiculous that the admissions office is being allowed conduct admissions in such an manner. I’ve emailed Laura Jane Cohen and she didn’t care either. It’s all about getting a good press release apparently.



Yes. It’s ironic that Brabrand was so enamored of claiming kids were getting into TJ due to “pay-to-play” when they just ended up swapping that for a classic political patronage scheme. Doesn’t matter whether the best qualified kids are getting in as long as the seats are distributed across the county and poor kids are getting an advantage that kids whose families worked hard to ensure they weren’t on FARMS don’t receive.


Except now the best kids are getting in instead of the most prepped.


Hardly.

The best kids are Asian.


This is so racist.
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Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.


Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.


The questions were incredibly poorly written. They were written such that even an honest (but possibly clueless) non-low income parent might have checked yes.

If your child has been getting free meals ALL year and you are asked is your child getting free meals, many parents will check yes! It’s ridiculous that the admissions office is being allowed conduct admissions in such an manner. I’ve emailed Laura Jane Cohen and she didn’t care either. It’s all about getting a good press release apparently.



Yes. It’s ironic that Brabrand was so enamored of claiming kids were getting into TJ due to “pay-to-play” when they just ended up swapping that for a classic political patronage scheme. Doesn’t matter whether the best qualified kids are getting in as long as the seats are distributed across the county and poor kids are getting an advantage that kids whose families worked hard to ensure they weren’t on FARMS don’t receive.


Except now the best kids are getting in instead of the most prepped.


Hardly.

The best kids are Asian.


This is so racist.


Sometimes the truth is racist.

Asians outperform Caucasians. That's a documented fact when looking at test scores and other stats.
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Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.


Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.


The questions were incredibly poorly written. They were written such that even an honest (but possibly clueless) non-low income parent might have checked yes.

If your child has been getting free meals ALL year and you are asked is your child getting free meals, many parents will check yes! It’s ridiculous that the admissions office is being allowed conduct admissions in such an manner. I’ve emailed Laura Jane Cohen and she didn’t care either. It’s all about getting a good press release apparently.



Yes. It’s ironic that Brabrand was so enamored of claiming kids were getting into TJ due to “pay-to-play” when they just ended up swapping that for a classic political patronage scheme. Doesn’t matter whether the best qualified kids are getting in as long as the seats are distributed across the county and poor kids are getting an advantage that kids whose families worked hard to ensure they weren’t on FARMS don’t receive.


Except now the best kids are getting in instead of the most prepped.


Hardly.

The best kids are Asian.


This is so racist.


Sometimes the truth is racist.

Asians outperform Caucasians. That's a documented fact when looking at test scores and other stats.


It’s also a fact that Asians parents/students will cheat on the same tests and stats.
Asian parents will take over the elementary school activities pipeline and push out any other competitive kids not part of their particular Asian group.
Asian parents will often say “oh your kid could spend the time doing math & science” BUT when a non-Asian parent calls a stem center to get their kid math & science lessons the phone doesn’t get answered or the non-Asian parent gets told their is no room the second the receptionist hears a non-Asian name.

The US has allowed recently many Asian parents to immigrate quickly with tech visas. Instead of those recent Asian parents helping all children in the country, they set up “learning” centers and “we only help those in OUR community”. I have actually heard Asian parents say that.

This is EXACTLY why people want the seats distributed fairly in a public high school paid for with tax dollars. Developing intelligence and talent is a matter of opportunity. The seats at TJ shouldn’t be given to only one group of parents who declare themselves superior by their own feedback loop of pushing out every other group unfairly.
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Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.


Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.


The questions were incredibly poorly written. They were written such that even an honest (but possibly clueless) non-low income parent might have checked yes.

If your child has been getting free meals ALL year and you are asked is your child getting free meals, many parents will check yes! It’s ridiculous that the admissions office is being allowed conduct admissions in such an manner. I’ve emailed Laura Jane Cohen and she didn’t care either. It’s all about getting a good press release apparently.



Yes. It’s ironic that Brabrand was so enamored of claiming kids were getting into TJ due to “pay-to-play” when they just ended up swapping that for a classic political patronage scheme. Doesn’t matter whether the best qualified kids are getting in as long as the seats are distributed across the county and poor kids are getting an advantage that kids whose families worked hard to ensure they weren’t on FARMS don’t receive.


Except now the best kids are getting in instead of the most prepped.


Hardly.

The best kids are Asian.


This is so racist.


Sometimes the truth is racist.

Asians outperform Caucasians. That's a documented fact when looking at test scores and other stats.


It’s also a fact that Asians parents/students will cheat on the same tests and stats.
Asian parents will take over the elementary school activities pipeline and push out any other competitive kids not part of their particular Asian group.
Asian parents will often say “oh your kid could spend the time doing math & science” BUT when a non-Asian parent calls a stem center to get their kid math & science lessons the phone doesn’t get answered or the non-Asian parent gets told their is no room the second the receptionist hears a non-Asian name.

The US has allowed recently many Asian parents to immigrate quickly with tech visas. Instead of those recent Asian parents helping all children in the country, they set up “learning” centers and “we only help those in OUR community”. I have actually heard Asian parents say that.

This is EXACTLY why people want the seats distributed fairly in a public high school paid for with tax dollars. Developing intelligence and talent is a matter of opportunity. The seats at TJ shouldn’t be given to only one group of parents who declare themselves superior by their own feedback loop of pushing out every other group unfairly.


99% of varsity blues convicts are white parents cheating and bribing so stop with the racist trope. You are gross.
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Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.


Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.


The questions were incredibly poorly written. They were written such that even an honest (but possibly clueless) non-low income parent might have checked yes.

If your child has been getting free meals ALL year and you are asked is your child getting free meals, many parents will check yes! It’s ridiculous that the admissions office is being allowed conduct admissions in such an manner. I’ve emailed Laura Jane Cohen and she didn’t care either. It’s all about getting a good press release apparently.



Yes. It’s ironic that Brabrand was so enamored of claiming kids were getting into TJ due to “pay-to-play” when they just ended up swapping that for a classic political patronage scheme. Doesn’t matter whether the best qualified kids are getting in as long as the seats are distributed across the county and poor kids are getting an advantage that kids whose families worked hard to ensure they weren’t on FARMS don’t receive.


Except now the best kids are getting in instead of the most prepped.


Hardly.

The best kids are Asian.


This is so racist.


Sometimes the truth is racist.

Asians outperform Caucasians. That's a documented fact when looking at test scores and other stats.


It’s also a fact that Asians parents/students will cheat on the same tests and stats.
Asian parents will take over the elementary school activities pipeline and push out any other competitive kids not part of their particular Asian group.
Asian parents will often say “oh your kid could spend the time doing math & science” BUT when a non-Asian parent calls a stem center to get their kid math & science lessons the phone doesn’t get answered or the non-Asian parent gets told their is no room the second the receptionist hears a non-Asian name.

The US has allowed recently many Asian parents to immigrate quickly with tech visas. Instead of those recent Asian parents helping all children in the country, they set up “learning” centers and “we only help those in OUR community”. I have actually heard Asian parents say that.

This is EXACTLY why people want the seats distributed fairly in a public high school paid for with tax dollars. Developing intelligence and talent is a matter of opportunity. The seats at TJ shouldn’t be given to only one group of parents who declare themselves superior by their own feedback loop of pushing out every other group unfairly.


99% of varsity blues convicts are white parents cheating and bribing so stop with the racist trope. You are gross.


Yes, white parents were not satisfied with all the advantages experienced from legacy preference, recruited athletes preference, connections preference, donations preference etc. so they had to cheat, bribe and commit crimes to further gain additional advantages by CHEATING, LYING and BRIBING for their privileged kids so don't go around mouthing that Asians cheat as if Asians are the only ones cheat.
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Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.


Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.


The questions were incredibly poorly written. They were written such that even an honest (but possibly clueless) non-low income parent might have checked yes.

If your child has been getting free meals ALL year and you are asked is your child getting free meals, many parents will check yes! It’s ridiculous that the admissions office is being allowed conduct admissions in such an manner. I’ve emailed Laura Jane Cohen and she didn’t care either. It’s all about getting a good press release apparently.



Yes. It’s ironic that Brabrand was so enamored of claiming kids were getting into TJ due to “pay-to-play” when they just ended up swapping that for a classic political patronage scheme. Doesn’t matter whether the best qualified kids are getting in as long as the seats are distributed across the county and poor kids are getting an advantage that kids whose families worked hard to ensure they weren’t on FARMS don’t receive.


Except now the best kids are getting in instead of the most prepped.


Hardly.

The best kids are Asian.


This is so racist.


Sometimes the truth is racist.

Asians outperform Caucasians. That's a documented fact when looking at test scores and other stats.


It’s also a fact that Asians parents/students will cheat on the same tests and stats.
Asian parents will take over the elementary school activities pipeline and push out any other competitive kids not part of their particular Asian group.
Asian parents will often say “oh your kid could spend the time doing math & science” BUT when a non-Asian parent calls a stem center to get their kid math & science lessons the phone doesn’t get answered or the non-Asian parent gets told their is no room the second the receptionist hears a non-Asian name.

The US has allowed recently many Asian parents to immigrate quickly with tech visas. Instead of those recent Asian parents helping all children in the country, they set up “learning” centers and “we only help those in OUR community”. I have actually heard Asian parents say that.

This is EXACTLY why people want the seats distributed fairly in a public high school paid for with tax dollars. Developing intelligence and talent is a matter of opportunity. The seats at TJ shouldn’t be given to only one group of parents who declare themselves superior by their own feedback loop of pushing out every other group unfairly.

It is indeed a fact because more than 1/3 of them are cheaters! I repeat, not just a few of them, but MORE THAN 1/3 OF THEM! Amazing!
https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their
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Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.


Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.


The questions were incredibly poorly written. They were written such that even an honest (but possibly clueless) non-low income parent might have checked yes.

If your child has been getting free meals ALL year and you are asked is your child getting free meals, many parents will check yes! It’s ridiculous that the admissions office is being allowed conduct admissions in such an manner. I’ve emailed Laura Jane Cohen and she didn’t care either. It’s all about getting a good press release apparently.



Yes. It’s ironic that Brabrand was so enamored of claiming kids were getting into TJ due to “pay-to-play” when they just ended up swapping that for a classic political patronage scheme. Doesn’t matter whether the best qualified kids are getting in as long as the seats are distributed across the county and poor kids are getting an advantage that kids whose families worked hard to ensure they weren’t on FARMS don’t receive.


Except now the best kids are getting in instead of the most prepped.


Hardly.

The best kids are Asian.


This is so racist.


Sometimes the truth is racist.

Asians outperform Caucasians. That's a documented fact when looking at test scores and other stats.


It’s also a fact that Asians parents/students will cheat on the same tests and stats.
Asian parents will take over the elementary school activities pipeline and push out any other competitive kids not part of their particular Asian group.
Asian parents will often say “oh your kid could spend the time doing math & science” BUT when a non-Asian parent calls a stem center to get their kid math & science lessons the phone doesn’t get answered or the non-Asian parent gets told their is no room the second the receptionist hears a non-Asian name.

The US has allowed recently many Asian parents to immigrate quickly with tech visas. Instead of those recent Asian parents helping all children in the country, they set up “learning” centers and “we only help those in OUR community”. I have actually heard Asian parents say that.

This is EXACTLY why people want the seats distributed fairly in a public high school paid for with tax dollars. Developing intelligence and talent is a matter of opportunity. The seats at TJ shouldn’t be given to only one group of parents who declare themselves superior by their own feedback loop of pushing out every other group unfairly.


Another argument for getting rid of TJ entirely rather than fighting so hard over the allocation of the crumbs. 96% of county kids won't attend TJ and even with the admissions changes the percentage for Black and Hispanic kids will be closer to 98%.
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Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.


Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.


The questions were incredibly poorly written. They were written such that even an honest (but possibly clueless) non-low income parent might have checked yes.

If your child has been getting free meals ALL year and you are asked is your child getting free meals, many parents will check yes! It’s ridiculous that the admissions office is being allowed conduct admissions in such an manner. I’ve emailed Laura Jane Cohen and she didn’t care either. It’s all about getting a good press release apparently.



Yes. It’s ironic that Brabrand was so enamored of claiming kids were getting into TJ due to “pay-to-play” when they just ended up swapping that for a classic political patronage scheme. Doesn’t matter whether the best qualified kids are getting in as long as the seats are distributed across the county and poor kids are getting an advantage that kids whose families worked hard to ensure they weren’t on FARMS don’t receive.


Except now the best kids are getting in instead of the most prepped.


Hardly.

The best kids are Asian.


This is so racist.


Sometimes the truth is racist.

Asians outperform Caucasians. That's a documented fact when looking at test scores and other stats.


It’s also a fact that Asians parents/students will cheat on the same tests and stats.
Asian parents will take over the elementary school activities pipeline and push out any other competitive kids not part of their particular Asian group.
Asian parents will often say “oh your kid could spend the time doing math & science” BUT when a non-Asian parent calls a stem center to get their kid math & science lessons the phone doesn’t get answered or the non-Asian parent gets told their is no room the second the receptionist hears a non-Asian name.

The US has allowed recently many Asian parents to immigrate quickly with tech visas. Instead of those recent Asian parents helping all children in the country, they set up “learning” centers and “we only help those in OUR community”. I have actually heard Asian parents say that.

This is EXACTLY why people want the seats distributed fairly in a public high school paid for with tax dollars. Developing intelligence and talent is a matter of opportunity. The seats at TJ shouldn’t be given to only one group of parents who declare themselves superior by their own feedback loop of pushing out every other group unfairly.


99% of varsity blues convicts are white parents cheating and bribing so stop with the racist trope. You are gross.


Yes, white parents were not satisfied with all the advantages experienced from legacy preference, recruited athletes preference, connections preference, donations preference etc. so they had to cheat, bribe and commit crimes to further gain additional advantages by CHEATING, LYING and BRIBING for their privileged kids so don't go around mouthing that Asians cheat as if Asians are the only ones cheat.


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Anonymous wrote:The numbers seems about what you'd expect at TJ with the school now taking kids from high-FARMS middle schools. The successful applicants will still skew towards higher-income families at high-FARMS schools and the kids getting in from the residual pool (not the 1.5% quotas) still will be more likely to attend schools with less poverty.

So maybe the misreporting isn't as rampant as some are claiming.


Yes, I don't think there are that many amoral parents who'd falsely claim they are economically disadvantaged.


The questions were incredibly poorly written. They were written such that even an honest (but possibly clueless) non-low income parent might have checked yes.

If your child has been getting free meals ALL year and you are asked is your child getting free meals, many parents will check yes! It’s ridiculous that the admissions office is being allowed conduct admissions in such an manner. I’ve emailed Laura Jane Cohen and she didn’t care either. It’s all about getting a good press release apparently.



Yes. It’s ironic that Brabrand was so enamored of claiming kids were getting into TJ due to “pay-to-play” when they just ended up swapping that for a classic political patronage scheme. Doesn’t matter whether the best qualified kids are getting in as long as the seats are distributed across the county and poor kids are getting an advantage that kids whose families worked hard to ensure they weren’t on FARMS don’t receive.


Except now the best kids are getting in instead of the most prepped.


Hardly.

The best kids are Asian.


This is so racist.


Sometimes the truth is racist.

Asians outperform Caucasians. That's a documented fact when looking at test scores and other stats.


It’s also a fact that Asians parents/students will cheat on the same tests and stats.
Asian parents will take over the elementary school activities pipeline and push out any other competitive kids not part of their particular Asian group.
Asian parents will often say “oh your kid could spend the time doing math & science” BUT when a non-Asian parent calls a stem center to get their kid math & science lessons the phone doesn’t get answered or the non-Asian parent gets told their is no room the second the receptionist hears a non-Asian name.

The US has allowed recently many Asian parents to immigrate quickly with tech visas. Instead of those recent Asian parents helping all children in the country, they set up “learning” centers and “we only help those in OUR community”. I have actually heard Asian parents say that.

This is EXACTLY why people want the seats distributed fairly in a public high school paid for with tax dollars. Developing intelligence and talent is a matter of opportunity. The seats at TJ shouldn’t be given to only one group of parents who declare themselves superior by their own feedback loop of pushing out every other group unfairly.


99% of varsity blues convicts are white parents cheating and bribing so stop with the racist trope. You are gross.


Yes, white parents were not satisfied with all the advantages experienced from legacy preference, recruited athletes preference, connections preference, donations preference etc. so they had to cheat, bribe and commit crimes to further gain additional advantages by CHEATING, LYING and BRIBING for their privileged kids so don't go around mouthing that Asians cheat as if Asians are the only ones cheat.


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I read that 30% of the class came from one prep center last year and they posted their names online. Guessing the other 60% came from different prep centers?
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