Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:From the river to the sea….Palestine will be free! So proud of the large D.C. march today speaking out against the genocide being carried out. Biden is done. There is no way he is going to win this election and you all can blame the Zionists and Israel for his loss. This is what happens when you’re too busy sucking up to another nation and not focusing on what is important to your own people.

I too am very excited for the next Trump presidency. The Muslim ban was clearly not indicative of anything. Obviously an ally of Palestinians. Jared Kushner didn't have enough time to fix the Middle East. But he'll get it right next time. He'll be totally great for Palestinians.

And evangelicals aligning with the left. Fist bumps.

It'll be awesome. So much better than those bad democrats.

Trump will be great for Palestinians. Totally not a friend of Netanyahu.

Voting against democrats is definitely the wise thing to do.

We are not so naive that we think Trump is an ally of Palestinians or will take a stand against Israel. We just know both parties are the same. Neither is working towards investing in healthcare, education, infrastructure, gun control or climate change And it’s about time we take a stand to show the democrats that you can’t use your campaign rhetoric to buy our votes only to repeatedly let us down. Sure it will get a lot worse before it gets better but this is the only way for the party to take us seriously. Deliver results or forget about our votes.

Lenne get this straight: you’re willing to harm innocent and vulnerable citizens now in order to generate hypothetical long-term gains?

Who does that sound like?

Netanyahu.

They are willing to do burn the country down because they are throwing a tantrum. Idiots.

Interesting that they care more about Palestinians than the most vulnerable Americans.

No I actually care about the vulnerable Americans but do tell me how Biden has helped them? Has healthcare become more affordable? Have prescriptions drugs become more affordable? Has public education drastically improved? Has there been meaningful progress on gun control legislation? Your empty rhetoric will not change our minds.

Oh sure, how about some BernieBro / Jill Stein 2.0 as you send more dippy idiots like yourself running into Trump's arms like you did in 2016?

And that's AT BEST. At worst, you are just a dishonest shill engaging in concern trolling. Failed path in life, either way.

Why do you keep blaming the far left or Jill Stein if Trump wins? Why don’t you blame your party’s candidate for failing to deliver on his promises and being such a big colossal disappointment. Maybe have him try harder to win our votes.

They are in denial. You can look at the numbers in each state Jill Stein highest vote tally was 1/2 of the third party right wing candidates. In many case the right wing third party candidateS end up getting 3 to 4 times the votes of Jill Stein. Biden and dems are ignoring what a voters are telling them.

We are now in the early stages of a wider war with the US committed to bombing every other country in the Middle East to keep Bibi and the other religious radicals in power in Israel. This will only be worst by November. Very few people actually support Israel.

The base of the Democratic Party if the left and progressive but even the moderates have turned their backs on Israel. Biden will be the first president to lose because of support for Israel. Right now the house and senate control are in jeopardy.

Did you see this in a dream last night?

You would have to be an obtuse moron to believe that support for Biden hasn't been adversely impacted since Israel began their latest campaign of terror in Gaza. It's 2024 - most sober, impartial voters have come to realize the initiator role Israel has consistently played in Middle East conflict over the past 75 years. The "we just want to be left alone to live in peace" charade isn't even close to believable any longer. Therefore, the argument that Biden's future fortunes haven't been affected by his his blind, unconditional support of Israel is ridiculous. And the belief that he has picked up more votes from supporters of Israel (Jew and non-Jew alike) than he has lost from those horrified by Israel's actions is certifiable.

"Initiator role" my ass. As if 10/7 was an Israeli false flag. As if somehow Israel deserved to have 1200 civilians massacred. Hamas initated this round of violence, you disgusting dumbass. Defense and retaliation isn't "initiation." Give it up. You are the most obtuse moron here.

What about prior to 10/7, chosen one?

Prior to 10/7, they also tried repeatedly to massacre and exterminate Jews repeatedly, like 1948–49, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, and so on.

Israel invaded Egypt in 1956 and 1967. Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982. 1973 and 1948 are on the Arab states though. Just calling balls and strikes.

1956 was because of Egyptian hostilities and an illegal ship blockade. Israel invaded, to get Egypt to reopen the Strait.
1967 was for the exact same reason as 1956.
1982 was a result of PLO conducting attacks on Israel from Lebanon.

So again, Israel didn't actually start any of those either, and it's pretty dishonest to try and pretend Egypt and Lebanon were just sitting there minding their own business, doing nothing wrong, to have Israel suddenly attack them for no reason at all. But that dishonest approach seems to be the only like of argumentation the pro-Palestine people have.

Is that a cultural thing with Arabs? Poke, jab and punch someone continually until they finally get angry, turn around and slap you to the ground in retaliation. And then, you pick yourself up from the ground and say "HOW DARE YOU! I WILL RETALIATE!!!" - that's basically what the Houthis are doing right now, too. It's just bizarre and shows massive cognitive dissonance. Invasion of Gaza WAS the retaliation - for 10/7. Bombing of Houthi military sites WAS the retaliation - for attacking US vessels, for attacking commercial ships. Sorry but you don't get to pretend like you did nothing wrong and that it's somehow unfair, because that's not at all what happened. I can't imagine walking around and punching some random person in the face, and then when they get angry and hit you back for it, you say "NOW I AM AGGRIEVED AND MUST RETALIATE!" No, dude. You started it.

You are so tough now. It’s astonishing to see the lack of self awareness, though.

Palestinian logic: "Mom! He hit me back first!"

Pretty much. They are still holding all those hostages. They are still firing rockets at civilians. There's been absolutely no remorse for the atrocities they committed.

What's the Mike Tyson quote - Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.

Well, Palestinians in Gaza are now getting punched in the face for starting this. What's the plan now?

+1000. This could have ended in October. But instead, Hamas wants it to drag out so as to inflict as much suffering on the people they were supposed to watch over.

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Anonymous wrote:From the river to the sea….Palestine will be free! So proud of the large D.C. march today speaking out against the genocide being carried out. Biden is done. There is no way he is going to win this election and you all can blame the Zionists and Israel for his loss. This is what happens when you’re too busy sucking up to another nation and not focusing on what is important to your own people.

I too am very excited for the next Trump presidency. The Muslim ban was clearly not indicative of anything. Obviously an ally of Palestinians. Jared Kushner didn't have enough time to fix the Middle East. But he'll get it right next time. He'll be totally great for Palestinians.

And evangelicals aligning with the left. Fist bumps.

It'll be awesome. So much better than those bad democrats.

Trump will be great for Palestinians. Totally not a friend of Netanyahu.

Voting against democrats is definitely the wise thing to do.

We are not so naive that we think Trump is an ally of Palestinians or will take a stand against Israel. We just know both parties are the same. Neither is working towards investing in healthcare, education, infrastructure, gun control or climate change And it’s about time we take a stand to show the democrats that you can’t use your campaign rhetoric to buy our votes only to repeatedly let us down. Sure it will get a lot worse before it gets better but this is the only way for the party to take us seriously. Deliver results or forget about our votes.

Lenne get this straight: you’re willing to harm innocent and vulnerable citizens now in order to generate hypothetical long-term gains?

Who does that sound like?

Netanyahu.

They are willing to do burn the country down because they are throwing a tantrum. Idiots.

Interesting that they care more about Palestinians than the most vulnerable Americans.

No I actually care about the vulnerable Americans but do tell me how Biden has helped them? Has healthcare become more affordable? Have prescriptions drugs become more affordable? Has public education drastically improved? Has there been meaningful progress on gun control legislation? Your empty rhetoric will not change our minds.

Oh sure, how about some BernieBro / Jill Stein 2.0 as you send more dippy idiots like yourself running into Trump's arms like you did in 2016?

And that's AT BEST. At worst, you are just a dishonest shill engaging in concern trolling. Failed path in life, either way.

Why do you keep blaming the far left or Jill Stein if Trump wins? Why don’t you blame your party’s candidate for failing to deliver on his promises and being such a big colossal disappointment. Maybe have him try harder to win our votes.

They are in denial. You can look at the numbers in each state Jill Stein highest vote tally was 1/2 of the third party right wing candidates. In many case the right wing third party candidateS end up getting 3 to 4 times the votes of Jill Stein. Biden and dems are ignoring what a voters are telling them.

We are now in the early stages of a wider war with the US committed to bombing every other country in the Middle East to keep Bibi and the other religious radicals in power in Israel. This will only be worst by November. Very few people actually support Israel.

The base of the Democratic Party if the left and progressive but even the moderates have turned their backs on Israel. Biden will be the first president to lose because of support for Israel. Right now the house and senate control are in jeopardy.

Did you see this in a dream last night?

You would have to be an obtuse moron to believe that support for Biden hasn't been adversely impacted since Israel began their latest campaign of terror in Gaza. It's 2024 - most sober, impartial voters have come to realize the initiator role Israel has consistently played in Middle East conflict over the past 75 years. The "we just want to be left alone to live in peace" charade isn't even close to believable any longer. Therefore, the argument that Biden's future fortunes haven't been affected by his his blind, unconditional support of Israel is ridiculous. And the belief that he has picked up more votes from supporters of Israel (Jew and non-Jew alike) than he has lost from those horrified by Israel's actions is certifiable.

"Initiator role" my ass. As if 10/7 was an Israeli false flag. As if somehow Israel deserved to have 1200 civilians massacred. Hamas initated this round of violence, you disgusting dumbass. Defense and retaliation isn't "initiation." Give it up. You are the most obtuse moron here.

What about prior to 10/7, chosen one?

Prior to 10/7, they also tried repeatedly to massacre and exterminate Jews repeatedly, like 1948–49, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, and so on.

Israel invaded Egypt in 1956 and 1967. Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982. 1973 and 1948 are on the Arab states though. Just calling balls and strikes.

1956 was because of Egyptian hostilities and an illegal ship blockade. Israel invaded, to get Egypt to reopen the Strait.
1967 was for the exact same reason as 1956.
1982 was a result of PLO conducting attacks on Israel from Lebanon.

So again, Israel didn't actually start any of those either, and it's pretty dishonest to try and pretend Egypt and Lebanon were just sitting there minding their own business, doing nothing wrong, to have Israel suddenly attack them for no reason at all. But that dishonest approach seems to be the only like of argumentation the pro-Palestine people have.

Is that a cultural thing with Arabs? Poke, jab and punch someone continually until they finally get angry, turn around and slap you to the ground in retaliation. And then, you pick yourself up from the ground and say "HOW DARE YOU! I WILL RETALIATE!!!" - that's basically what the Houthis are doing right now, too. It's just bizarre and shows massive cognitive dissonance. Invasion of Gaza WAS the retaliation - for 10/7. Bombing of Houthi military sites WAS the retaliation - for attacking US vessels, for attacking commercial ships. Sorry but you don't get to pretend like you did nothing wrong and that it's somehow unfair, because that's not at all what happened. I can't imagine walking around and punching some random person in the face, and then when they get angry and hit you back for it, you say "NOW I AM AGGRIEVED AND MUST RETALIATE!" No, dude. You started it.

You are so tough now. It’s astonishing to see the lack of self awareness, though.

You lack the self awareness to admit and acknowledge that all of this is because Arabs have been trying to exterminate Israeli Jews for 75 years. Fortunately they haven't been very good at it.

In all fairness other Arab states did learn not to f with Israel and NOT to take Palestinians in.

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What a giant circle jerk the last few pages have become around the destroyed myth of how tough Israelis are and how the indigenous people they violently displaced and have terrorized for 75+ years are so dumb for resorting to violence of their own in response.

More of the same propaganda from the “first blood was drawn on 10/7” brigade of mental midgets. Hardly surprising.

Hasbara, remedial edition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a giant circle jerk the last few pages have become around the destroyed myth of how tough Israelis are and how the indigenous people they violently displaced and have terrorized for 75+ years are so dumb for resorting to violence of their own in response.

More of the same propaganda from the “first blood was drawn on 10/7” brigade of mental midgets. Hardly surprising.

Hasbara, remedial edition.

"Blah blah blah hasbara mental midget blah blah." Yawn. That kind of crap is all you post, for page after page after page. At first it was entertaining. But now it's just dumb and boring.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What a giant circle jerk the last few pages have become around the destroyed myth of how tough Israelis are and how the indigenous people they violently displaced and have terrorized for 75+ years are so dumb for resorting to violence of their own in response.

More of the same propaganda from the “first blood was drawn on 10/7” brigade of mental midgets. Hardly surprising.

Hasbara, remedial edition.

"Blah blah blah hasbara mental midget blah blah." Yawn. That kind of crap is all you post, for page after page after page. At first it was entertaining. But now it's just dumb and boring.

He also always comes on after midnight when it’s 8am in Moscow.

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Anonymous wrote:What a giant circle jerk the last few pages have become around the destroyed myth of how tough Israelis are and how the indigenous people they violently displaced and have terrorized for 75+ years are so dumb for resorting to violence of their own in response.

More of the same propaganda from the “first blood was drawn on 10/7” brigade of mental midgets. Hardly surprising.

Hasbara, remedial edition.

"Blah blah blah hasbara mental midget blah blah." Yawn. That kind of crap is all you post, for page after page after page. At first it was entertaining. But now it's just dumb and boring.

He also always comes on after midnight when it’s 8am in Moscow.

Who knows? If they are really from Moscow, they’re probably related to 90% of the Israeli population.

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Anonymous wrote:What a giant circle jerk the last few pages have become around the destroyed myth of how tough Israelis are and how the indigenous people they violently displaced and have terrorized for 75+ years are so dumb for resorting to violence of their own in response.

More of the same propaganda from the “first blood was drawn on 10/7” brigade of mental midgets. Hardly surprising.

Hasbara, remedial edition.

"Blah blah blah hasbara mental midget blah blah." Yawn. That kind of crap is all you post, for page after page after page. At first it was entertaining. But now it's just dumb and boring.

He also always comes on after midnight when it’s 8am in Moscow.

Who knows? If they are really from Moscow, they’re probably related to 90% of the Israeli population.

Interesting number manipulation, with 45% of Israeli Jews being Mizrahi (middle east and north africa) and 32% being Ashkenazi (12.5% from the former USSR) the numbers just don’t seem to fit your narrative https://people.socsci.tau.ac.il/mu/noah/files/2018/07/Ethnic-origin-and-identity-in-Israel-JEMS-2018.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:From the river to the sea….Palestine will be free! So proud of the large D.C. march today speaking out against the genocide being carried out. Biden is done. There is no way he is going to win this election and you all can blame the Zionists and Israel for his loss. This is what happens when you’re too busy sucking up to another nation and not focusing on what is important to your own people.

I too am very excited for the next Trump presidency. The Muslim ban was clearly not indicative of anything. Obviously an ally of Palestinians. Jared Kushner didn't have enough time to fix the Middle East. But he'll get it right next time. He'll be totally great for Palestinians.

And evangelicals aligning with the left. Fist bumps.

It'll be awesome. So much better than those bad democrats.

Trump will be great for Palestinians. Totally not a friend of Netanyahu.

Voting against democrats is definitely the wise thing to do.

We are not so naive that we think Trump is an ally of Palestinians or will take a stand against Israel. We just know both parties are the same. Neither is working towards investing in healthcare, education, infrastructure, gun control or climate change And it’s about time we take a stand to show the democrats that you can’t use your campaign rhetoric to buy our votes only to repeatedly let us down. Sure it will get a lot worse before it gets better but this is the only way for the party to take us seriously. Deliver results or forget about our votes.

Lenne get this straight: you’re willing to harm innocent and vulnerable citizens now in order to generate hypothetical long-term gains?

Who does that sound like?

Netanyahu.

They are willing to do burn the country down because they are throwing a tantrum. Idiots.

Interesting that they care more about Palestinians than the most vulnerable Americans.

No I actually care about the vulnerable Americans but do tell me how Biden has helped them? Has healthcare become more affordable? Have prescriptions drugs become more affordable? Has public education drastically improved? Has there been meaningful progress on gun control legislation? Your empty rhetoric will not change our minds.

Oh sure, how about some BernieBro / Jill Stein 2.0 as you send more dippy idiots like yourself running into Trump's arms like you did in 2016?

And that's AT BEST. At worst, you are just a dishonest shill engaging in concern trolling. Failed path in life, either way.

Why do you keep blaming the far left or Jill Stein if Trump wins? Why don’t you blame your party’s candidate for failing to deliver on his promises and being such a big colossal disappointment. Maybe have him try harder to win our votes.

They are in denial. You can look at the numbers in each state Jill Stein highest vote tally was 1/2 of the third party right wing candidates. In many case the right wing third party candidateS end up getting 3 to 4 times the votes of Jill Stein. Biden and dems are ignoring what a voters are telling them.

We are now in the early stages of a wider war with the US committed to bombing every other country in the Middle East to keep Bibi and the other religious radicals in power in Israel. This will only be worst by November. Very few people actually support Israel.

The base of the Democratic Party if the left and progressive but even the moderates have turned their backs on Israel. Biden will be the first president to lose because of support for Israel. Right now the house and senate control are in jeopardy.

Did you see this in a dream last night?

You would have to be an obtuse moron to believe that support for Biden hasn't been adversely impacted since Israel began their latest campaign of terror in Gaza. It's 2024 - most sober, impartial voters have come to realize the initiator role Israel has consistently played in Middle East conflict over the past 75 years. The "we just want to be left alone to live in peace" charade isn't even close to believable any longer. Therefore, the argument that Biden's future fortunes haven't been affected by his his blind, unconditional support of Israel is ridiculous. And the belief that he has picked up more votes from supporters of Israel (Jew and non-Jew alike) than he has lost from those horrified by Israel's actions is certifiable.

"Initiator role" my ass. As if 10/7 was an Israeli false flag. As if somehow Israel deserved to have 1200 civilians massacred. Hamas initated this round of violence, you disgusting dumbass. Defense and retaliation isn't "initiation." Give it up. You are the most obtuse moron here.

What about prior to 10/7, chosen one?

Prior to 10/7, they also tried repeatedly to massacre and exterminate Jews repeatedly, like 1948–49, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, and so on.

Israel invaded Egypt in 1956 and 1967. Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982. 1973 and 1948 are on the Arab states though. Just calling balls and strikes.

1956 was because of Egyptian hostilities and an illegal ship blockade. Israel invaded, to get Egypt to reopen the Strait.
1967 was for the exact same reason as 1956.
1982 was a result of PLO conducting attacks on Israel from Lebanon.

So again, Israel didn't actually start any of those either, and it's pretty dishonest to try and pretend Egypt and Lebanon were just sitting there minding their own business, doing nothing wrong, to have Israel suddenly attack them for no reason at all. But that dishonest approach seems to be the only like of argumentation the pro-Palestine people have.

Is that a cultural thing with Arabs? Poke, jab and punch someone continually until they finally get angry, turn around and slap you to the ground in retaliation. And then, you pick yourself up from the ground and say "HOW DARE YOU! I WILL RETALIATE!!!" - that's basically what the Houthis are doing right now, too. It's just bizarre and shows massive cognitive dissonance. Invasion of Gaza WAS the retaliation - for 10/7. Bombing of Houthi military sites WAS the retaliation - for attacking US vessels, for attacking commercial ships. Sorry but you don't get to pretend like you did nothing wrong and that it's somehow unfair, because that's not at all what happened. I can't imagine walking around and punching some random person in the face, and then when they get angry and hit you back for it, you say "NOW I AM AGGRIEVED AND MUST RETALIATE!" No, dude. You started it.

You are so tough now. It’s astonishing to see the lack of self awareness, though.

You lack the self awareness to admit and acknowledge that all of this is because Arabs have been trying to exterminate Israeli Jews for 75 years. Fortunately they haven't been very good at it.

The ones that were good at it got not vengeance from Israel /Jews at all.

That’s why the “Israel must defend itself” argument always falls flat. They never avenged for the Nazis. There are still many ex Nazis still alive in Germany. One became a Pope

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Anonymous wrote:What a giant circle jerk the last few pages have become around the destroyed myth of how tough Israelis are and how the indigenous people they violently displaced and have terrorized for 75+ years are so dumb for resorting to violence of their own in response.

More of the same propaganda from the “first blood was drawn on 10/7” brigade of mental midgets. Hardly surprising.

Hasbara, remedial edition.

"Blah blah blah hasbara mental midget blah blah." Yawn. That kind of crap is all you post, for page after page after page. At first it was entertaining. But now it's just dumb and boring.

He also always comes on after midnight when it’s 8am in Moscow.

Who knows? If they are really from Moscow, they’re probably related to 90% of the Israeli population.

Interesting number manipulation, with 45% of Israeli Jews being Mizrahi (middle east and north africa) and 32% being Ashkenazi (12.5% from the former USSR) the numbers just don’t seem to fit your narrative https://people.socsci.tau.ac.il/mu/noah/files/2018/07/Ethnic-origin-and-identity-in-Israel-JEMS-2018.pdf

So even by your distorted numbers, less than 45% are indigenous? Yikes.

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Anonymous wrote:What a giant circle jerk the last few pages have become around the destroyed myth of how tough Israelis are and how the indigenous people they violently displaced and have terrorized for 75+ years are so dumb for resorting to violence of their own in response.

More of the same propaganda from the “first blood was drawn on 10/7” brigade of mental midgets. Hardly surprising.

Hasbara, remedial edition.

"Blah blah blah hasbara mental midget blah blah." Yawn. That kind of crap is all you post, for page after page after page. At first it was entertaining. But now it's just dumb and boring.

He also always comes on after midnight when it’s 8am in Moscow.

Who knows? If they are really from Moscow, they’re probably related to 90% of the Israeli population.

Interesting number manipulation, with 45% of Israeli Jews being Mizrahi (middle east and north africa) and 32% being Ashkenazi (12.5% from the former USSR) the numbers just don’t seem to fit your narrative https://people.socsci.tau.ac.il/mu/noah/files/2018/07/Ethnic-origin-and-identity-in-Israel-JEMS-2018.pdf

So even by your distorted numbers, less than 45% are indigenous? Yikes.

oh no, someone called you out on your delusions, and you went for the old “Jews are not indigenous to Israel” trope? What’s next? Hasbara, shill list, jews are not loyal to the US, genocide, bubbie, Jews are from Kiev, Smotrich blah blah, don’t shoot yourself in the matzoh ball, Zionism is terrorism. Did I forget something or is there another insult in your toolbox?

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Anonymous wrote:From the river to the sea….Palestine will be free! So proud of the large D.C. march today speaking out against the genocide being carried out. Biden is done. There is no way he is going to win this election and you all can blame the Zionists and Israel for his loss. This is what happens when you’re too busy sucking up to another nation and not focusing on what is important to your own people.

I too am very excited for the next Trump presidency. The Muslim ban was clearly not indicative of anything. Obviously an ally of Palestinians. Jared Kushner didn't have enough time to fix the Middle East. But he'll get it right next time. He'll be totally great for Palestinians.

And evangelicals aligning with the left. Fist bumps.

It'll be awesome. So much better than those bad democrats.

Trump will be great for Palestinians. Totally not a friend of Netanyahu.

Voting against democrats is definitely the wise thing to do.

We are not so naive that we think Trump is an ally of Palestinians or will take a stand against Israel. We just know both parties are the same. Neither is working towards investing in healthcare, education, infrastructure, gun control or climate change And it’s about time we take a stand to show the democrats that you can’t use your campaign rhetoric to buy our votes only to repeatedly let us down. Sure it will get a lot worse before it gets better but this is the only way for the party to take us seriously. Deliver results or forget about our votes.

Lenne get this straight: you’re willing to harm innocent and vulnerable citizens now in order to generate hypothetical long-term gains?

Who does that sound like?

Netanyahu.

They are willing to do burn the country down because they are throwing a tantrum. Idiots.

Interesting that they care more about Palestinians than the most vulnerable Americans.

No I actually care about the vulnerable Americans but do tell me how Biden has helped them? Has healthcare become more affordable? Have prescriptions drugs become more affordable? Has public education drastically improved? Has there been meaningful progress on gun control legislation? Your empty rhetoric will not change our minds.

Oh sure, how about some BernieBro / Jill Stein 2.0 as you send more dippy idiots like yourself running into Trump's arms like you did in 2016?

And that's AT BEST. At worst, you are just a dishonest shill engaging in concern trolling. Failed path in life, either way.

Why do you keep blaming the far left or Jill Stein if Trump wins? Why don’t you blame your party’s candidate for failing to deliver on his promises and being such a big colossal disappointment. Maybe have him try harder to win our votes.

They are in denial. You can look at the numbers in each state Jill Stein highest vote tally was 1/2 of the third party right wing candidates. In many case the right wing third party candidateS end up getting 3 to 4 times the votes of Jill Stein. Biden and dems are ignoring what a voters are telling them.

We are now in the early stages of a wider war with the US committed to bombing every other country in the Middle East to keep Bibi and the other religious radicals in power in Israel. This will only be worst by November. Very few people actually support Israel.

The base of the Democratic Party if the left and progressive but even the moderates have turned their backs on Israel. Biden will be the first president to lose because of support for Israel. Right now the house and senate control are in jeopardy.

Did you see this in a dream last night?

You would have to be an obtuse moron to believe that support for Biden hasn't been adversely impacted since Israel began their latest campaign of terror in Gaza. It's 2024 - most sober, impartial voters have come to realize the initiator role Israel has consistently played in Middle East conflict over the past 75 years. The "we just want to be left alone to live in peace" charade isn't even close to believable any longer. Therefore, the argument that Biden's future fortunes haven't been affected by his his blind, unconditional support of Israel is ridiculous. And the belief that he has picked up more votes from supporters of Israel (Jew and non-Jew alike) than he has lost from those horrified by Israel's actions is certifiable.

"Initiator role" my ass. As if 10/7 was an Israeli false flag. As if somehow Israel deserved to have 1200 civilians massacred. Hamas initated this round of violence, you disgusting dumbass. Defense and retaliation isn't "initiation." Give it up. You are the most obtuse moron here.

What about prior to 10/7, chosen one?

Prior to 10/7, they also tried repeatedly to massacre and exterminate Jews repeatedly, like 1948–49, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, and so on.

Israel invaded Egypt in 1956 and 1967. Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982. 1973 and 1948 are on the Arab states though. Just calling balls and strikes.

1956 was because of Egyptian hostilities and an illegal ship blockade. Israel invaded, to get Egypt to reopen the Strait.
1967 was for the exact same reason as 1956.
1982 was a result of PLO conducting attacks on Israel from Lebanon.

So again, Israel didn't actually start any of those either, and it's pretty dishonest to try and pretend Egypt and Lebanon were just sitting there minding their own business, doing nothing wrong, to have Israel suddenly attack them for no reason at all. But that dishonest approach seems to be the only like of argumentation the pro-Palestine people have.

Is that a cultural thing with Arabs? Poke, jab and punch someone continually until they finally get angry, turn around and slap you to the ground in retaliation. And then, you pick yourself up from the ground and say "HOW DARE YOU! I WILL RETALIATE!!!" - that's basically what the Houthis are doing right now, too. It's just bizarre and shows massive cognitive dissonance. Invasion of Gaza WAS the retaliation - for 10/7. Bombing of Houthi military sites WAS the retaliation - for attacking US vessels, for attacking commercial ships. Sorry but you don't get to pretend like you did nothing wrong and that it's somehow unfair, because that's not at all what happened. I can't imagine walking around and punching some random person in the face, and then when they get angry and hit you back for it, you say "NOW I AM AGGRIEVED AND MUST RETALIATE!" No, dude. You started it.

You are so tough now. It’s astonishing to see the lack of self awareness, though.

You lack the self awareness to admit and acknowledge that all of this is because Arabs have been trying to exterminate Israeli Jews for 75 years. Fortunately they haven't been very good at it.

In all fairness other Arab states did learn not to f with Israel and NOT to take Palestinians in.

Yes. An important point. Egypt and Jordan have made their peace with Israel. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are trying to formalize things. No one in Syria or Lebanon wants war with Israel except some Shi'a militants. And after all this fighting in Gaza, absolutely no one is helping Palestinians, much less taking them in as refugees.

Still have no idea what Hamas was trying to accomplish by invading Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:What a giant circle jerk the last few pages have become around the destroyed myth of how tough Israelis are and how the indigenous people they violently displaced and have terrorized for 75+ years are so dumb for resorting to violence of their own in response.

More of the same propaganda from the “first blood was drawn on 10/7” brigade of mental midgets. Hardly surprising.

Hasbara, remedial edition.

"Blah blah blah hasbara mental midget blah blah." Yawn. That kind of crap is all you post, for page after page after page. At first it was entertaining. But now it's just dumb and boring.

He also always comes on after midnight when it’s 8am in Moscow.

Who knows? If they are really from Moscow, they’re probably related to 90% of the Israeli population.

Interesting number manipulation, with 45% of Israeli Jews being Mizrahi (middle east and north africa) and 32% being Ashkenazi (12.5% from the former USSR) the numbers just don’t seem to fit your narrative https://people.socsci.tau.ac.il/mu/noah/files/2018/07/Ethnic-origin-and-identity-in-Israel-JEMS-2018.pdf

So even by your distorted numbers, less than 45% are indigenous? Yikes.

oh no, someone called you out on your delusions, and you went for the old “Jews are not indigenous to Israel” trope? What’s next? Hasbara, shill list, jews are not loyal to the US, genocide, bubbie, Jews are from Kiev, Smotrich blah blah, don’t shoot yourself in the matzoh ball, Zionism is terrorism. Did I forget something or is there another insult in your toolbox?

Are you already under care? Serious question because you clearly aren’t well.

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Anonymous wrote:What a giant circle jerk the last few pages have become around the destroyed myth of how tough Israelis are and how the indigenous people they violently displaced and have terrorized for 75+ years are so dumb for resorting to violence of their own in response.

More of the same propaganda from the “first blood was drawn on 10/7” brigade of mental midgets. Hardly surprising.

Hasbara, remedial edition.

"Blah blah blah hasbara mental midget blah blah." Yawn. That kind of crap is all you post, for page after page after page. At first it was entertaining. But now it's just dumb and boring.

He also always comes on after midnight when it’s 8am in Moscow.

Who knows? If they are really from Moscow, they’re probably related to 90% of the Israeli population.

Interesting number manipulation, with 45% of Israeli Jews being Mizrahi (middle east and north africa) and 32% being Ashkenazi (12.5% from the former USSR) the numbers just don’t seem to fit your narrative https://people.socsci.tau.ac.il/mu/noah/files/2018/07/Ethnic-origin-and-identity-in-Israel-JEMS-2018.pdf

So even by your distorted numbers, less than 45% are indigenous? Yikes.

oh no, someone called you out on your delusions, and you went for the old “Jews are not indigenous to Israel” trope? What’s next? Hasbara, shill list, jews are not loyal to the US, genocide, bubbie, Jews are from Kiev, Smotrich blah blah, don’t shoot yourself in the matzoh ball, Zionism is terrorism. Did I forget something or is there another insult in your toolbox?

Are you already under care? Serious question because you clearly aren’t well.

Oh, are you worried about me? Showing empathy for Zionists? I guess I am making progress with you.

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Anonymous wrote:From the river to the sea….Palestine will be free! So proud of the large D.C. march today speaking out against the genocide being carried out. Biden is done. There is no way he is going to win this election and you all can blame the Zionists and Israel for his loss. This is what happens when you’re too busy sucking up to another nation and not focusing on what is important to your own people.

I too am very excited for the next Trump presidency. The Muslim ban was clearly not indicative of anything. Obviously an ally of Palestinians. Jared Kushner didn't have enough time to fix the Middle East. But he'll get it right next time. He'll be totally great for Palestinians.

And evangelicals aligning with the left. Fist bumps.

It'll be awesome. So much better than those bad democrats.

Trump will be great for Palestinians. Totally not a friend of Netanyahu.

Voting against democrats is definitely the wise thing to do.

We are not so naive that we think Trump is an ally of Palestinians or will take a stand against Israel. We just know both parties are the same. Neither is working towards investing in healthcare, education, infrastructure, gun control or climate change And it’s about time we take a stand to show the democrats that you can’t use your campaign rhetoric to buy our votes only to repeatedly let us down. Sure it will get a lot worse before it gets better but this is the only way for the party to take us seriously. Deliver results or forget about our votes.

Lenne get this straight: you’re willing to harm innocent and vulnerable citizens now in order to generate hypothetical long-term gains?

Who does that sound like?

Netanyahu.

They are willing to do burn the country down because they are throwing a tantrum. Idiots.

Interesting that they care more about Palestinians than the most vulnerable Americans.

No I actually care about the vulnerable Americans but do tell me how Biden has helped them? Has healthcare become more affordable? Have prescriptions drugs become more affordable? Has public education drastically improved? Has there been meaningful progress on gun control legislation? Your empty rhetoric will not change our minds.

Oh sure, how about some BernieBro / Jill Stein 2.0 as you send more dippy idiots like yourself running into Trump's arms like you did in 2016?

And that's AT BEST. At worst, you are just a dishonest shill engaging in concern trolling. Failed path in life, either way.

Why do you keep blaming the far left or Jill Stein if Trump wins? Why don’t you blame your party’s candidate for failing to deliver on his promises and being such a big colossal disappointment. Maybe have him try harder to win our votes.

They are in denial. You can look at the numbers in each state Jill Stein highest vote tally was 1/2 of the third party right wing candidates. In many case the right wing third party candidateS end up getting 3 to 4 times the votes of Jill Stein. Biden and dems are ignoring what a voters are telling them.

We are now in the early stages of a wider war with the US committed to bombing every other country in the Middle East to keep Bibi and the other religious radicals in power in Israel. This will only be worst by November. Very few people actually support Israel.

The base of the Democratic Party if the left and progressive but even the moderates have turned their backs on Israel. Biden will be the first president to lose because of support for Israel. Right now the house and senate control are in jeopardy.

Did you see this in a dream last night?

You would have to be an obtuse moron to believe that support for Biden hasn't been adversely impacted since Israel began their latest campaign of terror in Gaza. It's 2024 - most sober, impartial voters have come to realize the initiator role Israel has consistently played in Middle East conflict over the past 75 years. The "we just want to be left alone to live in peace" charade isn't even close to believable any longer. Therefore, the argument that Biden's future fortunes haven't been affected by his his blind, unconditional support of Israel is ridiculous. And the belief that he has picked up more votes from supporters of Israel (Jew and non-Jew alike) than he has lost from those horrified by Israel's actions is certifiable.

"Initiator role" my ass. As if 10/7 was an Israeli false flag. As if somehow Israel deserved to have 1200 civilians massacred. Hamas initated this round of violence, you disgusting dumbass. Defense and retaliation isn't "initiation." Give it up. You are the most obtuse moron here.

What about prior to 10/7, chosen one?

Prior to 10/7, they also tried repeatedly to massacre and exterminate Jews repeatedly, like 1948–49, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, and so on.

Israel invaded Egypt in 1956 and 1967. Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982. 1973 and 1948 are on the Arab states though. Just calling balls and strikes.

1956 was because of Egyptian hostilities and an illegal ship blockade. Israel invaded, to get Egypt to reopen the Strait.
1967 was for the exact same reason as 1956.
1982 was a result of PLO conducting attacks on Israel from Lebanon.

So again, Israel didn't actually start any of those either, and it's pretty dishonest to try and pretend Egypt and Lebanon were just sitting there minding their own business, doing nothing wrong, to have Israel suddenly attack them for no reason at all. But that dishonest approach seems to be the only like of argumentation the pro-Palestine people have.

Is that a cultural thing with Arabs? Poke, jab and punch someone continually until they finally get angry, turn around and slap you to the ground in retaliation. And then, you pick yourself up from the ground and say "HOW DARE YOU! I WILL RETALIATE!!!" - that's basically what the Houthis are doing right now, too. It's just bizarre and shows massive cognitive dissonance. Invasion of Gaza WAS the retaliation - for 10/7. Bombing of Houthi military sites WAS the retaliation - for attacking US vessels, for attacking commercial ships. Sorry but you don't get to pretend like you did nothing wrong and that it's somehow unfair, because that's not at all what happened. I can't imagine walking around and punching some random person in the face, and then when they get angry and hit you back for it, you say "NOW I AM AGGRIEVED AND MUST RETALIATE!" No, dude. You started it.

You are so tough now. It’s astonishing to see the lack of self awareness, though.

You lack the self awareness to admit and acknowledge that all of this is because Arabs have been trying to exterminate Israeli Jews for 75 years. Fortunately they haven't been very good at it.

In all fairness other Arab states did learn not to f with Israel and NOT to take Palestinians in.

Yes. An important point. Egypt and Jordan have made their peace with Israel. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are trying to formalize things. No one in Syria or Lebanon wants war with Israel except some Shi'a militants. And after all this fighting in Gaza, absolutely no one is helping Palestinians, much less taking them in as refugees.

Still have no idea what Hamas was trying to accomplish by invading Israel.

I have no idea what the end game for Hamas is here. Gaza is destroyed. Hamas militants will be killed one by one. It’s almost like their political wing living in luxury in Qatar and Turkey decided that it’s time to retire and threw the rest of Hamas along with Gaza civilians under the bus. Israel wants its hostages back, what does Hamas want at this point?

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Anonymous wrote:From the river to the sea….Palestine will be free! So proud of the large D.C. march today speaking out against the genocide being carried out. Biden is done. There is no way he is going to win this election and you all can blame the Zionists and Israel for his loss. This is what happens when you’re too busy sucking up to another nation and not focusing on what is important to your own people.

I too am very excited for the next Trump presidency. The Muslim ban was clearly not indicative of anything. Obviously an ally of Palestinians. Jared Kushner didn't have enough time to fix the Middle East. But he'll get it right next time. He'll be totally great for Palestinians.

And evangelicals aligning with the left. Fist bumps.

It'll be awesome. So much better than those bad democrats.

Trump will be great for Palestinians. Totally not a friend of Netanyahu.

Voting against democrats is definitely the wise thing to do.

We are not so naive that we think Trump is an ally of Palestinians or will take a stand against Israel. We just know both parties are the same. Neither is working towards investing in healthcare, education, infrastructure, gun control or climate change And it’s about time we take a stand to show the democrats that you can’t use your campaign rhetoric to buy our votes only to repeatedly let us down. Sure it will get a lot worse before it gets better but this is the only way for the party to take us seriously. Deliver results or forget about our votes.

Lenne get this straight: you’re willing to harm innocent and vulnerable citizens now in order to generate hypothetical long-term gains?

Who does that sound like?

Netanyahu.

They are willing to do burn the country down because they are throwing a tantrum. Idiots.

Interesting that they care more about Palestinians than the most vulnerable Americans.

No I actually care about the vulnerable Americans but do tell me how Biden has helped them? Has healthcare become more affordable? Have prescriptions drugs become more affordable? Has public education drastically improved? Has there been meaningful progress on gun control legislation? Your empty rhetoric will not change our minds.

Oh sure, how about some BernieBro / Jill Stein 2.0 as you send more dippy idiots like yourself running into Trump's arms like you did in 2016?

And that's AT BEST. At worst, you are just a dishonest shill engaging in concern trolling. Failed path in life, either way.

Why do you keep blaming the far left or Jill Stein if Trump wins? Why don’t you blame your party’s candidate for failing to deliver on his promises and being such a big colossal disappointment. Maybe have him try harder to win our votes.

They are in denial. You can look at the numbers in each state Jill Stein highest vote tally was 1/2 of the third party right wing candidates. In many case the right wing third party candidateS end up getting 3 to 4 times the votes of Jill Stein. Biden and dems are ignoring what a voters are telling them.

We are now in the early stages of a wider war with the US committed to bombing every other country in the Middle East to keep Bibi and the other religious radicals in power in Israel. This will only be worst by November. Very few people actually support Israel.

The base of the Democratic Party if the left and progressive but even the moderates have turned their backs on Israel. Biden will be the first president to lose because of support for Israel. Right now the house and senate control are in jeopardy.

Did you see this in a dream last night?

You would have to be an obtuse moron to believe that support for Biden hasn't been adversely impacted since Israel began their latest campaign of terror in Gaza. It's 2024 - most sober, impartial voters have come to realize the initiator role Israel has consistently played in Middle East conflict over the past 75 years. The "we just want to be left alone to live in peace" charade isn't even close to believable any longer. Therefore, the argument that Biden's future fortunes haven't been affected by his his blind, unconditional support of Israel is ridiculous. And the belief that he has picked up more votes from supporters of Israel (Jew and non-Jew alike) than he has lost from those horrified by Israel's actions is certifiable.

"Initiator role" my ass. As if 10/7 was an Israeli false flag. As if somehow Israel deserved to have 1200 civilians massacred. Hamas initated this round of violence, you disgusting dumbass. Defense and retaliation isn't "initiation." Give it up. You are the most obtuse moron here.

What about prior to 10/7, chosen one?

Prior to 10/7, they also tried repeatedly to massacre and exterminate Jews repeatedly, like 1948–49, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, and so on.

Israel invaded Egypt in 1956 and 1967. Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982. 1973 and 1948 are on the Arab states though. Just calling balls and strikes.

Yes. The attacks are not one-sided. It’s an endless and tragic ping pong game of atrocities.

I think most people understand it each attack is revenge for the previous one.

I think the difference is that Pro Israelis think the attacks on them began because the Palestinians hate Jews (and they were justified in their attacks back bc they also view Palestinian as Arab invaders into a land that God promised them thousands of years ago, rather than the close generic cousins with just as ancient ties to the land that science proves they are). Meanwhile, the Palestinians view the beginning of the attacks caused by their coeherced/forced displacement from their land in the 1920/30/40s.

I don’t think there will ever be resolution until both sides can come to a common understanding. And judging from the messages on this board I’m not sure how that happens.