FCPS comprehensive boundary review

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of the posts on this thread are from Langley families not wanting to be redistricted to Herndon or West Springfield families not wanting to be redistricted to Lewis.

They are prepared to throw the School Board a bone in the form of redistricting OTHER families in split feeders and attendance islands.

Those families may or may not want to be redistricted, or in some cases moving those families could weaken schools.

They should not move kids just so they can declare their boundary study a success while placating the noisiest parents from Langley and West Springfield.

Wtaf. Go back and read the last page and a half. No one from Langley is throwing anyone else under the bus.

We know you like to hate on Langley, but that’s pretty close to slander, my dear.

If you want to advocate to mess with other kids, whatever. But no need to LIE.

You know, I used to think the “noisiest voices” didn’t deserve to be placated. Then the last election happened and many USA citizens didn’t vote, and seemed to not care. Listening to people who don’t/can’t show up and guessing what is on their mind is impossible.

In our democracy showing up and using your voice is part of our job as citizens, not something to be derided.

Sure, speak up, be active, and work to crush this entire initiative if you think it's misguided.

But don't throw others under the redistricting bus just because you think they may be softer targets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s important for FCPS to implement sweeping boundary changes so that they can deliver on the equity that they talk about. Removing AAP would also help.

+ a million

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of the posts on this thread are from Langley families not wanting to be redistricted to Herndon or West Springfield families not wanting to be redistricted to Lewis.

They are prepared to throw the School Board a bone in the form of redistricting OTHER families in split feeders and attendance islands.

Those families may or may not want to be redistricted, or in some cases moving those families could weaken schools.

They should not move kids just so they can declare their boundary study a success while placating the noisiest parents from Langley and West Springfield.

Wtaf. Go back and read the last page and a half. No one from Langley is throwing anyone else under the bus.

We know you like to hate on Langley, but that’s pretty close to slander, my dear.

If you want to advocate to mess with other kids, whatever. But no need to LIE.

You know, I used to think the “noisiest voices” didn’t deserve to be placated. Then the last election happened and many USA citizens didn’t vote, and seemed to not care. Listening to people who don’t/can’t show up and guessing what is on their mind is impossible.

In our democracy showing up and using your voice is part of our job as citizens, not something to be derided.

Sure, speak up, be active, and work to crush this entire initiative if you think it's misguided.

But don't throw others under the redistricting bus just because you think they may be softer targets.

DP. Who are you even talking about? Where’s your evidence that anyone from Langley has “thrown others under the redistricting bus”? You have no idea who is posting here. And it seems like you’re the one advocating for “this entire initiative.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s important for FCPS to implement sweeping boundary changes so that they can deliver on the equity that they talk about. Removing AAP would also help.

+ a million

Yes, these micro-wokisms help deliver on a state and national stage for republicans. I fully support boundary changes.

[Anonymous]

IMO, they should eliminate all AAP centers and all split feeders. Make each school a neighborhood school. Have AP in all schools. Changing boundaries shouldn’t even be a discussion until those things are complete.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:IMO, they should eliminate all AAP centers and all split feeders. Make each school a neighborhood school. Have AP in all schools. Changing boundaries shouldn’t even be a discussion until those things are complete.

Really? Please explain what happens to Carson, Franklin, Holmes, Kilmer, Poe and Thoreau MS with no split feeders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:IMO, they should eliminate all AAP centers and all split feeders. Make each school a neighborhood school. Have AP in all schools. Changing boundaries shouldn’t even be a discussion until those things are complete.

I’ve HEARD through various channels that there are a few advocacy groups that are influential in keeping the AAP centers going. Fairfax County Association for the Gifted was one. They won’t be eliminated any time soon. It seems like the hope right now is getting LLIV into all schools, pushing for kids to stay at their local schools, and then maybe, eventually, 10-15+ years into the future, reducing the number of ES AAP centers. MS AAP may be eliminated sooner if the amount of honors classes increases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of the posts on this thread are from Langley families not wanting to be redistricted to Herndon or West Springfield families not wanting to be redistricted to Lewis.

They are prepared to throw the School Board a bone in the form of redistricting OTHER families in split feeders and attendance islands.

Those families may or may not want to be redistricted, or in some cases moving those families could weaken schools.

They should not move kids just so they can declare their boundary study a success while placating the noisiest parents from Langley and West Springfield.

Wtaf. Go back and read the last page and a half. No one from Langley is throwing anyone else under the bus.

We know you like to hate on Langley, but that’s pretty close to slander, my dear.

If you want to advocate to mess with other kids, whatever. But no need to LIE.

You know, I used to think the “noisiest voices” didn’t deserve to be placated. Then the last election happened and many USA citizens didn’t vote, and seemed to not care. Listening to people who don’t/can’t show up and guessing what is on their mind is impossible.

In our democracy showing up and using your voice is part of our job as citizens, not something to be derided.

Sure, speak up, be active, and work to crush this entire initiative if you think it's misguided.

But don't throw others under the redistricting bus just because you think they may be softer targets.

DP. Who are you even talking about? Where’s your evidence that anyone from Langley has “thrown others under the redistricting bus”? You have no idea who is posting here. And it seems like you’re the one advocating for “this entire initiative.”

She’s a troll that hates Langley. Makes crap up to try to bring readers to her side. No one from Langley is pushing boundary changes. We want this junk to go away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many of the posts on this thread are from Langley families not wanting to be redistricted to Herndon or West Springfield families not wanting to be redistricted to Lewis.

They are prepared to throw the School Board a bone in the form of redistricting OTHER families in split feeders and attendance islands.

Those families may or may not want to be redistricted, or in some cases moving those families could weaken schools.

They should not move kids just so they can declare their boundary study a success while placating the noisiest parents from Langley and West Springfield.

I think rezoning kids in split feeders and attendance islands from West Springfield HS to equally desirable Lake Braddock is very different from what you are describing.

There is so much community overlap between LBSS and WSHS, and the schools are virtually equal in quality, rigor, facilities, sports, activities and academic programs.

It would not "weaken" either school, and it would benefit the Sangster families in that one neighborhood that goes to WSHS, as well as the one far off attendance island neighborhood that passes several elementary schools to get to Keene Mill, bringing it closer to both the elementary school, but also the middle and high school.

Advocating for that as a solution to avoid unwanted rezoning is not even a little bit of what you are implying.

It would be a non controversial rezoning that addresses WSHS capacity, closes split feeders and attendance islands, keeps kids in their communities and friend groups, gives families a truly equivalent school experience , and does not impact property values at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMO, they should eliminate all AAP centers and all split feeders. Make each school a neighborhood school. Have AP in all schools. Changing boundaries shouldn’t even be a discussion until those things are complete.

I’ve HEARD through various channels that there are a few advocacy groups that are influential in keeping the AAP centers going. Fairfax County Association for the Gifted was one. They won’t be eliminated any time soon. It seems like the hope right now is getting LLIV into all schools, pushing for kids to stay at their local schools, and then maybe, eventually, 10-15+ years into the future, reducing the number of ES AAP centers. MS AAP may be eliminated sooner if the amount of honors classes increases.

If they are keeping AAP centers, then they need tto add a AAP to every middle school with no middle schoolers going out of pyramids.

This would improve the lower performing high schools in a 2-3 year span as those high petforming students will now stay in pyramid for high school instead of finding ways to stay in center pyramids for high school like Lake Braddock.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMO, they should eliminate all AAP centers and all split feeders. Make each school a neighborhood school. Have AP in all schools. Changing boundaries shouldn’t even be a discussion until those things are complete.

I’ve HEARD through various channels that there are a few advocacy groups that are influential in keeping the AAP centers going. Fairfax County Association for the Gifted was one. They won’t be eliminated any time soon. It seems like the hope right now is getting LLIV into all schools, pushing for kids to stay at their local schools, and then maybe, eventually, 10-15+ years into the future, reducing the number of ES AAP centers. MS AAP may be eliminated sooner if the amount of honors classes increases.

Excellent! FCPS absolutely needs the centers to stay open in order to provide strong cohorts of advanced students for those who need it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMO, they should eliminate all AAP centers and all split feeders. Make each school a neighborhood school. Have AP in all schools. Changing boundaries shouldn’t even be a discussion until those things are complete.

I’ve HEARD through various channels that there are a few advocacy groups that are influential in keeping the AAP centers going. Fairfax County Association for the Gifted was one. They won’t be eliminated any time soon. It seems like the hope right now is getting LLIV into all schools, pushing for kids to stay at their local schools, and then maybe, eventually, 10-15+ years into the future, reducing the number of ES AAP centers. MS AAP may be eliminated sooner if the amount of honors classes increases.

Excellent! FCPS absolutely needs the centers to stay open in order to provide strong cohorts of advanced students for those who need it.

You do not need centers to have a good cohort of advanced students. If you need centers, go back to the GT program. AAP is not that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of the posts on this thread are from Langley families not wanting to be redistricted to Herndon or West Springfield families not wanting to be redistricted to Lewis.

They are prepared to throw the School Board a bone in the form of redistricting OTHER families in split feeders and attendance islands.

Those families may or may not want to be redistricted, or in some cases moving those families could weaken schools.

They should not move kids just so they can declare their boundary study a success while placating the noisiest parents from Langley and West Springfield.

I think rezoning kids in split feeders and attendance islands from West Springfield HS to equally desirable Lake Braddock is very different from what you are describing.

There is so much community overlap between LBSS and WSHS, and the schools are virtually equal in quality, rigor, facilities, sports, activities and academic programs.

It would not "weaken" either school, and it would benefit the Sangster families in that one neighborhood that goes to WSHS, as well as the one far off attendance island neighborhood that passes several elementary schools to get to Keene Mill, bringing it closer to both the elementary school, but also the middle and high school.

Advocating for that as a solution to avoid unwanted rezoning is not even a little bit of what you are implying.

It would be a non controversial rezoning that addresses WSHS capacity, closes split feeders and attendance islands, keeps kids in their communities and friend groups, gives families a truly equivalent school experience , and does not impact property values at all.

These are good points and if parents in those islands would happily move over to LBSS there is no reason not to clean up those boundaries.

Other situations may pose different issues, and people should pay attention. Because others may see themselves offered up against their will by people looking to throw the School Board members an opportunity to save face (while looking to avoid being redistricted themselves).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of the posts on this thread are from Langley families not wanting to be redistricted to Herndon or West Springfield families not wanting to be redistricted to Lewis.

They are prepared to throw the School Board a bone in the form of redistricting OTHER families in split feeders and attendance islands.

Those families may or may not want to be redistricted, or in some cases moving those families could weaken schools.

They should not move kids just so they can declare their boundary study a success while placating the noisiest parents from Langley and West Springfield.

I think rezoning kids in split feeders and attendance islands from West Springfield HS to equally desirable Lake Braddock is very different from what you are describing.

There is so much community overlap between LBSS and WSHS, and the schools are virtually equal in quality, rigor, facilities, sports, activities and academic programs.

It would not "weaken" either school, and it would benefit the Sangster families in that one neighborhood that goes to WSHS, as well as the one far off attendance island neighborhood that passes several elementary schools to get to Keene Mill, bringing it closer to both the elementary school, but also the middle and high school.

Advocating for that as a solution to avoid unwanted rezoning is not even a little bit of what you are implying.

It would be a non controversial rezoning that addresses WSHS capacity, closes split feeders and attendance islands, keeps kids in their communities and friend groups, gives families a truly equivalent school experience , and does not impact property values at all.

These are good points and if parents in those islands would happily move over to LBSS there is no reason not to clean up those boundaries.

Other situations may pose different issues, and people should pay attention. Because others may see themselves offered up against their will by people looking to throw the School Board members an opportunity to save face (while looking to avoid being redistricted themselves).

Like the hypocrite who is on BRAC and is on record being in favor of equity redistricting as long as it is not her kids?

Did I mention she’s a hypocrite?

Also, I wonder if the board is going to move Sandy Anderson’s kids or Kyle McDaniel’s? I won’t hold my breath.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMO, they should eliminate all AAP centers and all split feeders. Make each school a neighborhood school. Have AP in all schools. Changing boundaries shouldn’t even be a discussion until those things are complete.

I’ve HEARD through various channels that there are a few advocacy groups that are influential in keeping the AAP centers going. Fairfax County Association for the Gifted was one. They won’t be eliminated any time soon. It seems like the hope right now is getting LLIV into all schools, pushing for kids to stay at their local schools, and then maybe, eventually, 10-15+ years into the future, reducing the number of ES AAP centers. MS AAP may be eliminated sooner if the amount of honors classes increases.

There is absolutely no need for MS AAP. They need regular classes and honors classes and that's it. Middle school AAP is completely unnecessary.