MAP-M and math tracking

[Anonymous]

I understand that the MAP-M test keeps asking progressively more difficult questions, including more advanced concepts, until the student gets a certain number wrong consecutively.

So, is there a score at which a child is a shoe-in for an accelerated math class? I was particularly thinking about Math IM in 6th grade.

Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Nope, from my experience they don't use the scores for anything. Maybe if you made a stink about it. MCPS policies seem to be inconsistent. Since first grade my kid is scoring 99% two grades up and is in now regular compacted math. There does seem to be one kid in HGC that got on the track you are talking about. Not sure how that to happened.

[Anonymous]

Not PP. Actually, there has been sporadic commentary here about parents making IM happen for their previously unaccellerated kid. It seems to take advocacy and persistence, but it's not impossible. Gather a lot of data, and pester both the 5th grade teacher/admin who recommend placement and the middle school counselor.

[Anonymous]

This is 16:45, sorry I miss read that you wanted to put a 5th grader in IM.

[Anonymous]

To 16:45: the AEI group in the central office can observe and test kids to accelerate, but it still falls to principals discretion and causes scheduling problems.

AEI= advanced and enriched instruction

It is a slow painful process.

I agree they don't seem to use MAP-M scores for this purpose.

[Anonymous]

My child's HGC placed a 4th grader in 5/6 math (student goes to 5th grade classroom) based on MAP score.

[Anonymous]

My son's MAP-M scores were very high. I can't remember the actual score from 5th but it was higher than many of the compacted math kids and I was told on par with the HGC. My son was in grade level math and my requests for change of class were denied repeatedly. Interestingly, they placed him into IM for 6th even though he didn't have compacted math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My child's HGC placed a 4th grader in 5/6 math (student goes to 5th grade classroom) based on MAP score.

I'd be curious on the score. This isn't happening everywhere. The inconsistency is unfair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child's HGC placed a 4th grader in 5/6 math (student goes to 5th grade classroom) based on MAP score.

I'd be curious on the score. This isn't happening everywhere. The inconsistency is unfair.

I have no idea what the score was. I agree it's not consistent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son's MAP-M scores were very high. I can't remember the actual score from 5th but it was higher than many of the compacted math kids and I was told on par with the HGC. My son was in grade level math and my requests for change of class were denied repeatedly. Interestingly, they placed him into IM for 6th even though he didn't have compacted math.

That's so weird, given that compacted math is supposed to be three years of math into two (math 4-5-6 taken in grades 4 and 5), and that IM is supposed to be the content of grades 7 and 8.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son's MAP-M scores were very high. I can't remember the actual score from 5th but it was higher than many of the compacted math kids and I was told on par with the HGC. My son was in grade level math and my requests for change of class were denied repeatedly. Interestingly, they placed him into IM for 6th even though he didn't have compacted math.

That's so weird, given that compacted math is supposed to be three years of math into two (math 4-5-6 taken in grades 4 and 5), and that IM is supposed to be the content of grades 7 and 8.

That may be the way it is sold but it's not that cut and dry. Math is taught as a spiral, hitting the same topics year after year slowly adding depth to each. A top student in math 5 can easily know just as much as the typical student who's taken compacted 5 or the 8th grader in IM as a remedial course. Anyway, there needs to be a correction at the transition to MS. In ES the placements are restricted by the numbers. No matter how many compacted math sections an ES carries the odds are the number or seats isn't a perfect match to students who qualify. So there will be kids bumped up or down based on the numbers. My DS is in 6th and was in compacted math but has friends who made the jump this year, so far without issue.

[Anonymous]

My child is in IM in 6th after compacted math. The first quarter was a repeat of material covered in 5th.

[Anonymous]

Part of the reason acceleration happens differently at different schools also has to do with the level of the students that particular year.

16:00 has a good explanation for how math works in the new curriculum and because of this overlap in concepts taught each year you could theoretically find that a math 5 class is working on the same stuff as a math 8 class.

Even if there are as few as two to three students who are very advanced in a grade, a school can keep them in the same class and just modify the difficulty of the curriculum without having to go through all the scheduling hassle. The few cases of acceleration I've heard about have more to do with relative level than absolute level.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have that link to the chart that shows the scores? I can't find it - thank you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have that link to the chart that shows the scores? I can't find it - thank you!

This is best one I've found:
https://legacysupport.nwea.org/sites/www.nwea.org/files/resources/NWEA%202011%20Norms%20Report_01.17.2012_2.pdf
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