MAP-M and math tracking

[Anonymous]

I think acceleration has to do with a number of factors which also include
a) How open a particular school/principal is to acceleration
b) How pushy the parents are about it

From my experience with my child, if you are waiting around to see if there will be default acceleration or opportunities based on MAP-M scores you will be sorely disappointed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think acceleration has to do with a number of factors which also include
a) How open a particular school/principal is to acceleration
b) How pushy the parents are about it

From my experience with my child, if you are waiting around to see if there will be default acceleration or opportunities based on MAP-M scores you will be sorely disappointed.

Any advice on how to approach this. We've had somewhat of a wait and see attitude, but DD is now in 2nd grade and is definitely not being challenged in math AT ALL. This year has been terrible. Not quite sure how to push for this.

[Anonymous]

There is no math acceleration until Compacted 4/5. Some teachers are better at enriching in the lower grades than others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Any advice on how to approach this. We've had somewhat of a wait and see attitude, but DD is now in 2nd grade and is definitely not being challenged in math AT ALL. This year has been terrible. Not quite sure how to push for this.

I would start by asking for her MAP-P scores. Note that the teacher may not want to give them. If not try asking in the office. At least then you will have some data.

The first time I tried to push for any math acceleration the teacher invented a behavior issue so I was afraid to do much that year or any other. Now in 5th and in compacted math at HGC. Sure it could move a little faster but i don't need my 5th grader having to go to the middle school for math. Looking back I wish I knew not to expect anything in terms of acceleration in early ES. In the end I think it will be fine and I wish I worried less about it in the early grades. Have her do puzzles and online stuff at home if she is interested.

[Anonymous]

My 6th grader just completed Spring Map-M. He scored 250 which is 2 points lower than he scored in Spring OF THIRD GRADE. I will send note to teacher to ask if that is weird but he basically has scored around the same score every time he had ever taken. Whereas my daughter started about 202 in 3rd and now in 8th grade is 252. Climbed a little each year. But DS has score between 240-258 for three years. Anyone else experience that?

[Anonymous]

Yes but with reading. Stuck on same score for 2 years (3rd through 4th), actually maybe even down a bit.

Math has managed to climb a bit after a mid-250 score in spring 3rd grade. Been kind of up and down but last score was 270 something.

I think when you get to these upper scores its hard to improve much, especially since they are taught the same thing regardless of where they are at.

[Anonymous]

That's close to the top score for math and it's possible whether you can go higher is dependent on the randomization and question on a specific test. Remember what a PP said about a spiral. In the new curriculum you don't learn addition once but you learn it multiple times and how to do it in different ways. Your child's may be naturally good at it and get all the addition questions right on a at an early grade but his or her knowledge of that operation may have deepened in the meantime as the teachers taught it in different ways.

I read that the company that makes the test says that a typical top score is around 250 and scores above that are kind of mushy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's close to the top score for math and it's possible whether you can go higher is dependent on the randomization and question on a specific test. Remember what a PP said about a spiral. In the new curriculum you don't learn addition once but you learn it multiple times and how to do it in different ways. Your child's may be naturally good at it and get all the addition questions right on a at an early grade but his or her knowledge of that operation may have deepened in the meantime as the teachers taught it in different ways.

I read that the company that makes the test says that a typical top score is around 250 and scores above that are kind of mushy.

That is helpful because it was a little strange to not be improving in 3 years. But he really likes his Math class this year and is doing well so it seems to me he is learning and challenged.

[Anonymous]

The question bank narrows significantly around 250 as very few kids get there so the accuracy of the test above that isn't very good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The question bank narrows significantly around 250 as very few kids get there so the accuracy of the test above that isn't very good.

That's good to know. My daughters scores have fluctuated between high 240s and low 260s since early 4th grade. Doesn't seem to correlate with what she knows at all.

[Anonymous]

Also m6 son's teacher said it is uncommon to see a drop in the fall due to brain drain over the summer, especially at the higher levels.