Metro United having ID Sessions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Not a MU or FCV parent. Curious soccer parent checking things out for future. I do wonder why I read so many mean things about these two clubs. The anger regarding these two
Clubs is crazy. The one club everyone seems
To hate the TD and the other club people are just wishing it would go away. On that note then why would you care if it is not your kid on that team.

Again, this is where people tend to just want to punch down.

[Anonymous]

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The MU parents on this team have said all along play ups will be at age next year, and should be except maybe one player. Nobody is claiming otherwise. It is not a general lack of talent. They need more quality 06 players.

Please stop bringing your DD up, you don't like when posters disagree with you and then you end up reporting their posts for deletion. This is a public forum not a Metro coaches/family thread.

So you think it's MU parents that are constantly bringing up their DD's? LOL.

Do we have to decide in absolutes? There are some special MU posters and some special Non-MU posters. Some truth to both types of posts. IMHO, worst offenders on the forum are name callers, telling people to get a life, sock puppets, etc. Let the naysayers say what they want, let performance speak. If the play ups are deserved then the public at large would essentially acknowledge its validity and should be able to see that for themselves. There would be recognition across the area from coaches, parents, and other players, that these are non-issues by doing similar things. So what I think we are seeing is something else and because its something else, it's disruptive. Disruptive doesn't necessarily imply wrong, but if messaging to the players and parents is lacking (and very different from other clubs actions), what should we expect?

If the individual's impact to team performance bears out the disruptions need, by all means, disrupt away. But as a club, be prepared to acknowledge and explain when it doesn't. If it's all about showcasing something specific, at least be honest to the players and parents.

The problem with your perspective is that you believe that what is will always be. As Metro forms age appropriate teams the playups will be at age next year. So telling people to avoid the 06 team NEXT year because of playups THIS year is a logical fallacy.

[Anonymous]

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The MU parents on this team have said all along play ups will be at age next year, and should be except maybe one player. Nobody is claiming otherwise. It is not a general lack of talent. They need more quality 06 players.

Please stop bringing your DD up, you don't like when posters disagree with you and then you end up reporting their posts for deletion. This is a public forum not a Metro coaches/family thread.

So you think it's MU parents that are constantly bringing up their DD's? LOL.

Do we have to decide in absolutes? There are some special MU posters and some special Non-MU posters. Some truth to both types of posts. IMHO, worst offenders on the forum are name callers, telling people to get a life, sock puppets, etc. Let the naysayers say what they want, let performance speak. If the play ups are deserved then the public at large would essentially acknowledge its validity and should be able to see that for themselves. There would be recognition across the area from coaches, parents, and other players, that these are non-issues by doing similar things. So what I think we are seeing is something else and because its something else, it's disruptive. Disruptive doesn't necessarily imply wrong, but if messaging to the players and parents is lacking (and very different from other clubs actions), what should we expect?

If the individual's impact to team performance bears out the disruptions need, by all means, disrupt away. But as a club, be prepared to acknowledge and explain when it doesn't. If it's all about showcasing something specific, at least be honest to the players and parents.

The problem with your perspective is that you believe that what is will always be. As Metro forms age appropriate teams the playups will be at age next year. So telling people to avoid the 06 team NEXT year because of playups THIS year is a logical fallacy.

Just spent way too much time reading all these threads... I'm not a MU parent and probably will not bring my DD to MU because of location so I'm just reading for fun. I do not feel like anyone is telling parents to stay away from the 2006 team. I think they are warning parents of 2008 players to beware that their DD's may end of being asked to play up next year? Looks like MU is having issues recruiting players at these younger ages so they are having to take talent as it comes regardless of the age. Probably the play up situation is probably good for the development of their individual younger players. They are getting to train with much older kids and play in games that are competitive beyond what they are probably equipped for. SO as long as the girls are not in a socially awkward situation it's probably a win for all those little girls. However, this is obviously not good for the club. People can look at rosters and see how young the players are and see how badly the team is getting beat each weekend. I would think just that may make recruiting hard for the next year.

[Anonymous]

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The MU parents on this team have said all along play ups will be at age next year, and should be except maybe one player. Nobody is claiming otherwise. It is not a general lack of talent. They need more quality 06 players.

Please stop bringing your DD up, you don't like when posters disagree with you and then you end up reporting their posts for deletion. This is a public forum not a Metro coaches/family thread.

So you think it's MU parents that are constantly bringing up their DD's? LOL.

Do we have to decide in absolutes? There are some special MU posters and some special Non-MU posters. Some truth to both types of posts. IMHO, worst offenders on the forum are name callers, telling people to get a life, sock puppets, etc. Let the naysayers say what they want, let performance speak. If the play ups are deserved then the public at large would essentially acknowledge its validity and should be able to see that for themselves. There would be recognition across the area from coaches, parents, and other players, that these are non-issues by doing similar things. So what I think we are seeing is something else and because its something else, it's disruptive. Disruptive doesn't necessarily imply wrong, but if messaging to the players and parents is lacking (and very different from other clubs actions), what should we expect?

If the individual's impact to team performance bears out the disruptions need, by all means, disrupt away. But as a club, be prepared to acknowledge and explain when it doesn't. If it's all about showcasing something specific, at least be honest to the players and parents.

The problem with your perspective is that you believe that what is will always be. As Metro forms age appropriate teams the playups will be at age next year. So telling people to avoid the 06 team NEXT year because of playups THIS year is a logical fallacy.

I haven’t gone through all the older threads, but wasn’t one of the original promises from Metro to mostly end play ups? I seem to recall smaller roster sizes and kids playing at age as some of the reasons why Metro was going to be better than the Spirit organization.

[Anonymous]

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The MU parents on this team have said all along play ups will be at age next year, and should be except maybe one player. Nobody is claiming otherwise. It is not a general lack of talent. They need more quality 06 players.

Please stop bringing your DD up, you don't like when posters disagree with you and then you end up reporting their posts for deletion. This is a public forum not a Metro coaches/family thread.

So you think it's MU parents that are constantly bringing up their DD's? LOL.

Do we have to decide in absolutes? There are some special MU posters and some special Non-MU posters. Some truth to both types of posts. IMHO, worst offenders on the forum are name callers, telling people to get a life, sock puppets, etc. Let the naysayers say what they want, let performance speak. If the play ups are deserved then the public at large would essentially acknowledge its validity and should be able to see that for themselves. There would be recognition across the area from coaches, parents, and other players, that these are non-issues by doing similar things. So what I think we are seeing is something else and because its something else, it's disruptive. Disruptive doesn't necessarily imply wrong, but if messaging to the players and parents is lacking (and very different from other clubs actions), what should we expect?

If the individual's impact to team performance bears out the disruptions need, by all means, disrupt away. But as a club, be prepared to acknowledge and explain when it doesn't. If it's all about showcasing something specific, at least be honest to the players and parents.

The problem with your perspective is that you believe that what is will always be. As Metro forms age appropriate teams the playups will be at age next year. So telling people to avoid the 06 team NEXT year because of playups THIS year is a logical fallacy.

Just spent way too much time reading all these threads... I'm not a MU parent and probably will not bring my DD to MU because of location so I'm just reading for fun. I do not feel like anyone is telling parents to stay away from the 2006 team. I think they are warning parents of 2008 players to beware that their DD's may end of being asked to play up next year? Looks like MU is having issues recruiting players at these younger ages so they are having to take talent as it comes regardless of the age. Probably the play up situation is probably good for the development of their individual younger players. They are getting to train with much older kids and play in games that are competitive beyond what they are probably equipped for. SO as long as the girls are not in a socially awkward situation it's probably a win for all those little girls. However, this is obviously not good for the club. People can look at rosters and see how young the players are and see how badly the team is getting beat each weekend. I would think just that may make recruiting hard for the next year.

And yet, age appropriate teams are being formed and playups will be at age.

[Anonymous]

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The MU parents on this team have said all along play ups will be at age next year, and should be except maybe one player. Nobody is claiming otherwise. It is not a general lack of talent. They need more quality 06 players.

Please stop bringing your DD up, you don't like when posters disagree with you and then you end up reporting their posts for deletion. This is a public forum not a Metro coaches/family thread.

So you think it's MU parents that are constantly bringing up their DD's? LOL.

Do we have to decide in absolutes? There are some special MU posters and some special Non-MU posters. Some truth to both types of posts. IMHO, worst offenders on the forum are name callers, telling people to get a life, sock puppets, etc. Let the naysayers say what they want, let performance speak. If the play ups are deserved then the public at large would essentially acknowledge its validity and should be able to see that for themselves. There would be recognition across the area from coaches, parents, and other players, that these are non-issues by doing similar things. So what I think we are seeing is something else and because its something else, it's disruptive. Disruptive doesn't necessarily imply wrong, but if messaging to the players and parents is lacking (and very different from other clubs actions), what should we expect?

If the individual's impact to team performance bears out the disruptions need, by all means, disrupt away. But as a club, be prepared to acknowledge and explain when it doesn't. If it's all about showcasing something specific, at least be honest to the players and parents.

The problem with your perspective is that you believe that what is will always be. As Metro forms age appropriate teams the playups will be at age next year. So telling people to avoid the 06 team NEXT year because of playups THIS year is a logical fallacy.

I'm not telling anyone to avoid Metro 06. That's not on me. Join it, don't join it, your kid might be the missing piece that pulls it all together next year for the age-appropriate team.

I think pushing a solution out of fear is problematic.

[Anonymous]

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The MU parents on this team have said all along play ups will be at age next year, and should be except maybe one player. Nobody is claiming otherwise. It is not a general lack of talent. They need more quality 06 players.

Please stop bringing your DD up, you don't like when posters disagree with you and then you end up reporting their posts for deletion. This is a public forum not a Metro coaches/family thread.

So you think it's MU parents that are constantly bringing up their DD's? LOL.

Do we have to decide in absolutes? There are some special MU posters and some special Non-MU posters. Some truth to both types of posts. IMHO, worst offenders on the forum are name callers, telling people to get a life, sock puppets, etc. Let the naysayers say what they want, let performance speak. If the play ups are deserved then the public at large would essentially acknowledge its validity and should be able to see that for themselves. There would be recognition across the area from coaches, parents, and other players, that these are non-issues by doing similar things. So what I think we are seeing is something else and because its something else, it's disruptive. Disruptive doesn't necessarily imply wrong, but if messaging to the players and parents is lacking (and very different from other clubs actions), what should we expect?

If the individual's impact to team performance bears out the disruptions need, by all means, disrupt away. But as a club, be prepared to acknowledge and explain when it doesn't. If it's all about showcasing something specific, at least be honest to the players and parents.

The problem with your perspective is that you believe that what is will always be. As Metro forms age appropriate teams the playups will be at age next year. So telling people to avoid the 06 team NEXT year because of playups THIS year is a logical fallacy.

I'm not telling anyone to avoid Metro 06. That's not on me. Join it, don't join it, your kid might be the missing piece that pulls it all together next year for the age-appropriate team.

I think pushing a solution out of fear is problematic.

+1 It shows in the lack of communication about implementation and necessity given the performance and results. The lack of communication adds fuel to the fire and char is not a good look on those winter jackets.

[Anonymous]

When will MU have more ID sessions in Nova?

[Anonymous]

signing a kid up from "regular travel" where the costs are $2000 per year to DA $5000 per year or more is more of a sales pitch than anything else.

You have to have enough parents willing to shell out to form a team whose kids ARE good enough. If you don't have both, then you forego the talent and go for the next in line who is willing to pay.

[Anonymous]

DA and ECNL is more about which parents can afford in than which players are truly more talented and deserve to be there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:signing a kid up from "regular travel" where the costs are $2000 per year to DA $5000 per year or more is more of a sales pitch than anything else.

You have to have enough parents willing to shell out to form a team whose kids ARE good enough. If you don't have both, then you forego the talent and go for the next in line who is willing to pay.

Parents are paying for the showcase, not how good the other players are. Good players are recruited by colleges all the time from teams with poor results. Colleges recruit players, not teams. The OP is misinformed in their opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:signing a kid up from "regular travel" where the costs are $2000 per year to DA $5000 per year or more is more of a sales pitch than anything else.

You have to have enough parents willing to shell out to form a team whose kids ARE good enough. If you don't have both, then you forego the talent and go for the next in line who is willing to pay.

Parents are paying for the showcase, not how good the other players are. Good players are recruited by colleges all the time from teams with poor results. Colleges recruit players, not teams. The OP is misinformed in their opinion.

I have a showcase question. Do all the teams get to go? Or are some where only the better teams get invited?

[Anonymous]

All the teams get to go to the showcases

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All the teams get to go to the showcases

Going and playtime are not always the same thing, though. Imagine an ECNL team with 30 players.... Only 11 can be on the field at a time. (And unless I'm wrong, for any given game, even a showcase one, you can only roster 18.) That leaves a lot of kids traveling somewhere costly to play not that much.

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Anonymous wrote:All the teams get to go to the showcases

Going and playtime are not always the same thing, though. Imagine an ECNL team with 30 players.... Only 11 can be on the field at a time. (And unless I'm wrong, for any given game, even a showcase one, you can only roster 18.) That leaves a lot of kids traveling somewhere costly to play not that much.

Nobody does this though. Most ECNL teams with rosters that big do so because they are either using playups, dual roster, discovery, trapped, or other part time players, or they are older teams where half the girls are committed and don't showcase anyway. In any case, they won't bring more than 18 typically. Most coaches will make sure that everyone gets a reasonable amount of playing time at a showcase.

Showcases are usually seeded so that teams play similarly skilled teams.