Who said there isn't a North-South divide?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was at a meeting with Barbara Kanninen and she said there wasn’t a penny to add to any more buses. She said it would not happen. Walkability is their number one priority.

It was very clear to me she was not concerned about diversity.

She's never been interested in diversity, let alone concerned about it. Transportation budget is yet another convenient argument for her and the SB to do nothing about the gross economic disparities.

Diversity is not the schools job

Academic performance is the school’s job. Concentrated poverty has lead to several underperforming schools, with unimproved outcomes for more than a couple of decades. APS needs to be held accountable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a meeting with Barbara Kanninen and she said there wasn’t a penny to add to any more buses. She said it would not happen. Walkability is their number one priority.

It was very clear to me she was not concerned about diversity.

She's never been interested in diversity, let alone concerned about it. Transportation budget is yet another convenient argument for her and the SB to do nothing about the gross economic disparities.

Diversity is not the schools job

Academic performance is the school’s job. Concentrated poverty has lead to several underperforming schools, with unimproved outcomes for more than a couple of decades. APS needs to be held accountable

APS didn’t create the concentrated poverty. You’re trying to hold the wrong entity accountable, which is why you always fail.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a meeting with Barbara Kanninen and she said there wasn’t a penny to add to any more buses. She said it would not happen. Walkability is their number one priority.

It was very clear to me she was not concerned about diversity.

She's never been interested in diversity, let alone concerned about it. Transportation budget is yet another convenient argument for her and the SB to do nothing about the gross economic disparities.

Diversity is not the schools job

Academic performance is the school’s job. Concentrated poverty has lead to several underperforming schools, with unimproved outcomes for more than a couple of decades. APS needs to be held accountable

APS didn’t create the concentrated poverty. You’re trying to hold the wrong entity accountable, which is why you always fail.

No one has ever held anyone accountable. “ ALL APS schools are great!”
Until parents are willing to get in the SB members faces and say, “No. They aren’t”, we won’t ever move forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a meeting with Barbara Kanninen and she said there wasn’t a penny to add to any more buses. She said it would not happen. Walkability is their number one priority.

It was very clear to me she was not concerned about diversity.

She's never been interested in diversity, let alone concerned about it. Transportation budget is yet another convenient argument for her and the SB to do nothing about the gross economic disparities.

Diversity is not the schools job

Academic performance is the school’s job. Concentrated poverty has lead to several underperforming schools, with unimproved outcomes for more than a couple of decades. APS needs to be held accountable

APS didn’t create the concentrated poverty. You’re trying to hold the wrong entity accountable, which is why you always fail.

No one has ever held anyone accountable. “ ALL APS schools are great!”
Until parents are willing to get in the SB members faces and say, “No. They aren’t”, we won’t ever move forward.

And then what? The SB has zero authority over the CB for anything, let alone housing policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a meeting with Barbara Kanninen and she said there wasn’t a penny to add to any more buses. She said it would not happen. Walkability is their number one priority.

It was very clear to me she was not concerned about diversity.

She's never been interested in diversity, let alone concerned about it. Transportation budget is yet another convenient argument for her and the SB to do nothing about the gross economic disparities.

Diversity is not the schools job

Academic performance is the school’s job. Concentrated poverty has lead to several underperforming schools, with unimproved outcomes for more than a couple of decades. APS needs to be held accountable

APS didn’t create the concentrated poverty. You’re trying to hold the wrong entity accountable, which is why you always fail.

No one has ever held anyone accountable. “ ALL APS schools are great!”
Until parents are willing to get in the SB members faces and say, “No. They aren’t”, we won’t ever move forward.

And then what? The SB has zero authority over the CB for anything, let alone housing policy.

Then they eliminate neighborhood schools in the poverty pockets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a meeting with Barbara Kanninen and she said there wasn’t a penny to add to any more buses. She said it would not happen. Walkability is their number one priority.

It was very clear to me she was not concerned about diversity.

She's never been interested in diversity, let alone concerned about it. Transportation budget is yet another convenient argument for her and the SB to do nothing about the gross economic disparities.

Diversity is not the schools job

Academic performance is the school’s job. Concentrated poverty has lead to several underperforming schools, with unimproved outcomes for more than a couple of decades. APS needs to be held accountable

Prove to me that eliminating teachers in favor of additional bus routes will fix this issue. This is a zero-sum issue. The money needs to come from somewhere. What are you willing to sacrifice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a meeting with Barbara Kanninen and she said there wasn’t a penny to add to any more buses. She said it would not happen. Walkability is their number one priority.

It was very clear to me she was not concerned about diversity.

She's never been interested in diversity, let alone concerned about it. Transportation budget is yet another convenient argument for her and the SB to do nothing about the gross economic disparities.

Diversity is not the schools job

Academic performance is the school’s job. Concentrated poverty has lead to several underperforming schools, with unimproved outcomes for more than a couple of decades. APS needs to be held accountable

Prove to me that eliminating teachers in favor of additional bus routes will fix this issue. This is a zero-sum issue. The money needs to come from somewhere. What are you willing to sacrifice?

Class sizes in better performing schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a meeting with Barbara Kanninen and she said there wasn’t a penny to add to any more buses. She said it would not happen. Walkability is their number one priority.

It was very clear to me she was not concerned about diversity.

She's never been interested in diversity, let alone concerned about it. Transportation budget is yet another convenient argument for her and the SB to do nothing about the gross economic disparities.

Diversity is not the schools job

Academic performance is the school’s job. Concentrated poverty has lead to several underperforming schools, with unimproved outcomes for more than a couple of decades. APS needs to be held accountable

APS didn’t create the concentrated poverty. You’re trying to hold the wrong entity accountable, which is why you always fail.

No one has ever held anyone accountable. “ ALL APS schools are great!”
Until parents are willing to get in the SB members faces and say, “No. They aren’t”, we won’t ever move forward.

And then what? The SB has zero authority over the CB for anything, let alone housing policy.

Then they eliminate neighborhood schools in the poverty pockets.

You still have to send those kids somewhere, and “somewhere” will just be the next-closest school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a meeting with Barbara Kanninen and she said there wasn’t a penny to add to any more buses. She said it would not happen. Walkability is their number one priority.

It was very clear to me she was not concerned about diversity.

She's never been interested in diversity, let alone concerned about it. Transportation budget is yet another convenient argument for her and the SB to do nothing about the gross economic disparities.

Diversity is not the schools job

Academic performance is the school’s job. Concentrated poverty has lead to several underperforming schools, with unimproved outcomes for more than a couple of decades. APS needs to be held accountable

Prove to me that eliminating teachers in favor of additional bus routes will fix this issue. This is a zero-sum issue. The money needs to come from somewhere. What are you willing to sacrifice?

Class sizes in better performing schools.

You are getting the relationship backwards. Better-performing schools are able to achieve that despite larger class sizes because fewer students face significant hurdles that require greater teacher time/attention. Put more students with significant hurdles into those classes with the same student-teacher ratios won’t get them the attention they need, so the kids who don’t need extra attention will continue to do well while those who do it need it will struggle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a meeting with Barbara Kanninen and she said there wasn’t a penny to add to any more buses. She said it would not happen. Walkability is their number one priority.

It was very clear to me she was not concerned about diversity.

She's never been interested in diversity, let alone concerned about it. Transportation budget is yet another convenient argument for her and the SB to do nothing about the gross economic disparities.

Diversity is not the schools job

Academic performance is the school’s job. Concentrated poverty has lead to several underperforming schools, with unimproved outcomes for more than a couple of decades. APS needs to be held accountable

Prove to me that eliminating teachers in favor of additional bus routes will fix this issue. This is a zero-sum issue. The money needs to come from somewhere. What are you willing to sacrifice?

Class sizes in better performing schools.

You are getting the relationship backwards. Better-performing schools are able to achieve that despite larger class sizes because fewer students face significant hurdles that require greater teacher time/attention. Put more students with significant hurdles into those classes with the same student-teacher ratios won’t get them the attention they need, so the kids who don’t need extra attention will continue to do well while those who do it need it will struggle.

You misunderstand me. The schools that don’t have to ability to accepted more ED students ( due to locations) can have much larger class sizes. Say, 30-32 kids per class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a meeting with Barbara Kanninen and she said there wasn’t a penny to add to any more buses. She said it would not happen. Walkability is their number one priority.

It was very clear to me she was not concerned about diversity.

She's never been interested in diversity, let alone concerned about it. Transportation budget is yet another convenient argument for her and the SB to do nothing about the gross economic disparities.

Diversity is not the schools job

Academic performance is the school’s job. Concentrated poverty has lead to several underperforming schools, with unimproved outcomes for more than a couple of decades. APS needs to be held accountable

Prove to me that eliminating teachers in favor of additional bus routes will fix this issue. This is a zero-sum issue. The money needs to come from somewhere. What are you willing to sacrifice?

Class sizes in better performing schools.

You are getting the relationship backwards. Better-performing schools are able to achieve that despite larger class sizes because fewer students face significant hurdles that require greater teacher time/attention. Put more students with significant hurdles into those classes with the same student-teacher ratios won’t get them the attention they need, so the kids who don’t need extra attention will continue to do well while those who do it need it will struggle.

You misunderstand me. The schools that don’t have to ability to accepted more ED students ( due to locations) can have much larger class sizes. Say, 30-32 kids per class.

Non-Title I schools already have larger class sizes than Title I schools. You will never get those school to agree to having classes sizes that are 75%+ larger than the Title I schools just to bus kids around more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a meeting with Barbara Kanninen and she said there wasn’t a penny to add to any more buses. She said it would not happen. Walkability is their number one priority.

It was very clear to me she was not concerned about diversity.

She's never been interested in diversity, let alone concerned about it. Transportation budget is yet another convenient argument for her and the SB to do nothing about the gross economic disparities.

Diversity is not the schools job

It turns out their plans to "increase" walkers didn't actually do that or save any money (from the mouth of another SB member), so the only point then would be furthering segregation. Certainly they have some tools in their tool box to fight back against county policies that have led to highly segregated neighborhood schools. They need to use those tools rather than throw their hands in the air and feign ignorant. They have yet to demonstrate that some of those tools they have not yet employed would be more costly. Segregation has a cost, too, it's just hidden because the cost is to the kids in the segregated schools.

There was never an expectation that APS would be able to reduce the transportation budget, their goal was to try to hold it steady rather than continue the dramatic increases we’ve seen the past several years.

They can't hold it steady either, because enrollment continues to rise. There is no scenario they were looking at that made the transportation issue better, or even held the cost steady. That's the point. Unless people with kids stop moving in, they are stuck with the numbers and they are stuck spending more on transportation because a lot of our neighborhoods are not and never will be safely walkable to any existing ES. Too many uncrossable roads.

I think larger class sizes for low poverty schools sounds equitable. And maybe that would even prove an incentive for MC families to choose certain schools that they currently avoid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a meeting with Barbara Kanninen and she said there wasn’t a penny to add to any more buses. She said it would not happen. Walkability is their number one priority.

It was very clear to me she was not concerned about diversity.

She's never been interested in diversity, let alone concerned about it. Transportation budget is yet another convenient argument for her and the SB to do nothing about the gross economic disparities.

Diversity is not the schools job

Academic performance is the school’s job. Concentrated poverty has lead to several underperforming schools, with unimproved outcomes for more than a couple of decades. APS needs to be held accountable

Prove to me that eliminating teachers in favor of additional bus routes will fix this issue. This is a zero-sum issue. The money needs to come from somewhere. What are you willing to sacrifice?

Class sizes in better performing schools.

You are getting the relationship backwards. Better-performing schools are able to achieve that despite larger class sizes because fewer students face significant hurdles that require greater teacher time/attention. Put more students with significant hurdles into those classes with the same student-teacher ratios won’t get them the attention they need, so the kids who don’t need extra attention will continue to do well while those who do it need it will struggle.

You misunderstand me. The schools that don’t have to ability to accepted more ED students ( due to locations) can have much larger class sizes. Say, 30-32 kids per class.

Non-Title I schools already have larger class sizes than Title I schools. You will never get those school to agree to having classes sizes that are 75%+ larger than the Title I schools just to bus kids around more.

Title 1 schools are only kept to one less student per class per current policy. Many are lower than that, because they have lower enrollment across the board, so they don't have to fill each class to max factor. But there should be a more equitable policy, where there are significantly fewer max kids per class at Title 1 schools. Not sure what this would have to do with busing kids around more.

[Anonymous]

There is a cost to our housing policies and needs to be felt across the system. Very large class sizes uptown ( where middle class people crowd)
Inconvenience or some busing for kids downtown.
We are one system, and we all need to be part of the solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a cost to our housing policies and needs to be felt across the system. Very large class sizes uptown ( where middle class people crowd)
Inconvenience or some busing for kids downtown.
We are one system, and we all need to be part of the solution.

No we don't.