Shutdown Rhetoric

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is sad that some illegals cause such inconvenience (understatement) to legal residents. The sign of the times, I guess.

Just goes to show who the Dems care about. Forget about the current citizens in need (soldiers, vets, homeless), we gotta get non-citizens in through DACA so they can vote Dem.

This is not about DACA -

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is sad that some illegals cause such inconvenience (understatement) to legal residents. The sign of the times, I guess.

Just goes to show who the Dems care about. Forget about the current citizens in need (soldiers, vets, homeless), we gotta get non-citizens in through DACA so they can vote Dem.

This is not about DACA -

It absolutely is. That is one of the things they are holding back funding because of.

[Anonymous]

I'm a liberal and fully support the Democrats in their stand.

These short term CR are bullshit and there is enough bipartisan support in this country to design a bill that supports CHIP, DACA, Puerto Rico disaster relief, and funds for the opioid epidemic...which are all issues that have been wrapped into the various budget bills.

And while they are at it, maybe they can figure out how to avoid theses stupid shutdowns in the future.

This is not about Schumer or even 45 himself....this is about McConnell playing dirty politics with the health and livelihoods of those with the weakest voice in our society.

Sure, you can throw some examples of Democrats playing similar dirty games in the past. You probably have some really good ones. But that is an argument for a different day.

McConnell and Ryan could easily create a bill that would get get he D's on board that isn't inconsistent with any of their political ideologies. They are choosing not too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a liberal and fully support the Democrats in their stand.

These short term CR are bullshit and there is enough bipartisan support in this country to design a bill that supports CHIP, DACA, Puerto Rico disaster relief, and funds for the opioid epidemic...which are all issues that have been wrapped into the various budget bills.

And while they are at it, maybe they can figure out how to avoid theses stupid shutdowns in the future.

This is not about Schumer or even 45 himself....this is about McConnell playing dirty politics with the health and livelihoods of those with the weakest voice in our society.

Sure, you can throw some examples of Democrats playing similar dirty games in the past. You probably have some really good ones. But that is an argument for a different day.

McConnell and Ryan could easily create a bill that would get get he D's on board that isn't inconsistent with any of their political ideologies. They are choosing not too.

Well said.

[Anonymous]

I love the folks who are claiming DACA is about the rule of law. You know what else is about the rule of law?

-no nepotism in the White House,
-following the emoluments clause,
-following ethics rules
-the rule of law that says your election campaign cannot receive items of value from foreign sources
-the law that says your election campaign cannot use stolen information
-the rule of law that says you cannot interfere with an investigation by manipulating evidence of coercing witnesses.

Those laws should be followed and prosecuted, or are they being selective?

[Anonymous]

The debate and negotiation went back and forth over the course of Friday and ended when Chief of Staff John Kelly called Minority Leader Schumer to complain the framework Schumer and Trump had agreed to at lunch was too liberal for the GOP. But the GOP on the hill told the President to make a deal.

So did Kelly call this or did the GOP say that the agreed to framework was no good?

Is Trump even acting as President now at all? Of it Kelly calling the shots?

[Anonymous]

Donald J Trump@realDonaldTrump: This is the One Year Anniversary of my Presidency and the Democrats wanted to give me a nice present. #DemocratShutdown

Poor wittle baby is having a bad day. Waaaaa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The debate and negotiation went back and forth over the course of Friday and ended when Chief of Staff John Kelly called Minority Leader Schumer to complain the framework Schumer and Trump had agreed to at lunch was too liberal for the GOP. But the GOP on the hill told the President to make a deal.

So did Kelly call this or did the GOP say that the agreed to framework was no good?

Is Trump even acting as President now at all? Of it Kelly calling the shots?

Fox and Friends calls the shots. Then Trump tweets, then Congress and the administration respond to the F&F marching orders for the day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a liberal and fully support the Democrats in their stand.

These short term CR are bullshit and there is enough bipartisan support in this country to design a bill that supports CHIP, DACA, Puerto Rico disaster relief, and funds for the opioid epidemic...which are all issues that have been wrapped into the various budget bills.

And while they are at it, maybe they can figure out how to avoid theses stupid shutdowns in the future.

This is not about Schumer or even 45 himself....this is about McConnell playing dirty politics with the health and livelihoods of those with the weakest voice in our society.

Sure, you can throw some examples of Democrats playing similar dirty games in the past. You probably have some really good ones. But that is an argument for a different day.

McConnell and Ryan could easily create a bill that would get get he D's on board that isn't inconsistent with any of their political ideologies. They are choosing not too.

I agree with everything you said, but Democrats have never stooped to this level. Shutting down the government is something Republicans have been hellbent on doing for the last 10 years. Hell, many of them campaigned on doing what they just did.

Please find some example of Democrats resorting to "tricks" and you'll also find it's what they're reduced to in order to do what they're SUPPOSED to do - which is keep the government running, appoint competent people to run it, and try to make this country a halfway decent place to exist.

[Anonymous]

100% the fault of Schumer and the Dems. Even the lib media admits it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I sense a late night or early morning Tweetstorm by the Supreme Dotard. That’s how he governs and he really wants to get to his big gala at Mar a Lago tomorrow.

And here it comes - already four tweets from the twit before 7:00 am. He must really want to get to Mar a Lago. He’s claiming Democrats shutmthe government down to ruin his big fun day. Unbelievable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:100% the fault of Schumer and the Dems. Even the lib media admits it

Except some Dems voted for the crappy bill. Even some Republicans has to vote no. This one is on McConnell, Trump, and Cotton. #winning

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a liberal and fully support the Democrats in their stand.

These short term CR are bullshit and there is enough bipartisan support in this country to design a bill that supports CHIP, DACA, Puerto Rico disaster relief, and funds for the opioid epidemic...which are all issues that have been wrapped into the various budget bills.

And while they are at it, maybe they can figure out how to avoid theses stupid shutdowns in the future.

This is not about Schumer or even 45 himself....this is about McConnell playing dirty politics with the health and livelihoods of those with the weakest voice in our society.

Sure, you can throw some examples of Democrats playing similar dirty games in the past. You probably have some really good ones. But that is an argument for a different day.

McConnell and Ryan could easily create a bill that would get get he D's on board that isn't inconsistent with any of their political ideologies. They are choosing not too.

This! I won’t be paid during the shut either. I am personally affected by this and agree with you.

[Anonymous]

It is appalling that the Democrats threw DACA into this funding bill. They are so enamored with illegal immigrants that they would rather harm the livelihoods of 1 million American taxpayers in favor of people who enter this country illegally.

Also, what happens to the elderly dependent on social security? Does direct deposit of the checks continue? I sure hope the Dems are not putting the interests of illegals ahead of poor, elderly Americans. Even one skipped month means these old people might not eat.

[Anonymous]

The GOP, who have 5 votes in the Senate, could only muster 46 votes. So no, this is not on the dems.

Trump is responsible for this shutdown and the general dysfunction of the government.

First, he impulsively rescinded DACA, leaving nearly a million young people with a looming 6 months deadline which has catastrophic consequences for their lives.

Then, he said he would sign whatever immigration bill was brought to his desk and he would take the heat on it.

Next, he agreed to meet with Durbin and Graham to review the bipartisan bill. Quickly his racist staff members & select Congressmen (Miller & Kelly, Cotton & Perdue) leapt into action to stir up Trump to the point of calling Africa, El Salvador and Haiti "shithole countries" in a meeting called within hours of the positive phone call.

Heavy criticism, lies and repercussions followed and all credibility was lost for the GOP and Trump (not that he had any).

McConnell then throws up his hands and waits for Trump to indicate what he will sign.

Trump, preoccupied with thought of the party & golf he is forgoing at Mar a Lago, cannot decide what to do and so we are shutting down the government.