Option B Alternate - Adding extra ES to WJ?

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Anonymous wrote:Seems a proposal to shift back to the original option B may go further. That option was prepared and presented in detail and got positive feedback from the community.

Going back to option B means sending WW back to overcrowded Wheaton, right? And reversing a bunch of un-related changes in Silver Spring? That doesn't make any sense. Why would they propose that rather than just switching the boundaries between WJ and Woodward?

Easiest is to simply swap ES area in WJ and Woodward.

Farmland into Wheaton or Kennedy would have a greater balancing effect on FARMs. And they can show just how genuine their sentiments are.

Say it louder for the people in the back! Let’s bus the wealthy white families to Wheaton to satisfy their complaints.

Yes! Bus the whites to Kennedy and Wheaton...oh wait, isn't that what the regional program is? Put the IB and Math/Science/Engineering program in the ghetto....aka bus the high performing whites (and asian americans) to MS13 territory

Wheaton will continue to have their STEM magnet which is certainly not in the ghetto as you describe. It’s a popular program and part of why Wheaton is currently so overcrowded.

Wheaton gets the Edison seats/capacity too!

Enter: Dude who says the seats are phantom at Edison and not real for Wheaton. ::insert his/her typical rant::

You found me. Can you explain in clear terms how those 500 seats materialized? I've asked MCPS and here on DCUM and nobody can answer how they will continue to offer parttime Edison programs to students countywide and add 500 full time seats for resident Wheaton students to Edison which does not currently confer high school diplomas.

No, I cannot. Just that it's hope that they just plot the wheaton kids in there i guess with a traditional education? Think of it like an addition or portable classrooms to Wheaton high only it's at Edison which is very walkable from Wheaton?

But aren't the Edison classrooms being occupied by Edison students?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At least everyone is starting to realize BOE will end up voting in favor of the Superintendent's proposal. No use tweaking at this point. Move this along.

Yea, it's worth it to see the Deborah realtor and Diana PTA person heads spin around exorcist style over the decision

Have any of you spoken out your concerns publicly, with your name attached to it?

Why would I? I approve of the Superintendent's recommendation. Let them grasp and straws and ruin their reputation on their own. Besides, you can tell them the public sentiment from this board.

I am just looking to understand if anyone has shared a real refutation of their statements. There IS no public sentiment that I can find.

There have been cluster rep and community association and municipality emails/communications. But nothing on the record just yet because the first BOE meeting after the superintendent's recommendation specifically to discuss Woodward is tomorrow. But those in the position of supporting the Superintendent recommendation clearly will not be as loud as those in farmland who care about their property values

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems a proposal to shift back to the original option B may go further. That option was prepared and presented in detail and got positive feedback from the community.

Going back to option B means sending WW back to overcrowded Wheaton, right? And reversing a bunch of un-related changes in Silver Spring? That doesn't make any sense. Why would they propose that rather than just switching the boundaries between WJ and Woodward?

Easiest is to simply swap ES area in WJ and Woodward.

Farmland into Wheaton or Kennedy would have a greater balancing effect on FARMs. And they can show just how genuine their sentiments are.

Say it louder for the people in the back! Let’s bus the wealthy white families to Wheaton to satisfy their complaints.

Yes! Bus the whites to Kennedy and Wheaton...oh wait, isn't that what the regional program is? Put the IB and Math/Science/Engineering program in the ghetto....aka bus the high performing whites (and asian americans) to MS13 territory

Wheaton will continue to have their STEM magnet which is certainly not in the ghetto as you describe. It’s a popular program and part of why Wheaton is currently so overcrowded.

Wheaton gets the Edison seats/capacity too!

Enter: Dude who says the seats are phantom at Edison and not real for Wheaton. ::insert his/her typical rant::

You found me. Can you explain in clear terms how those 500 seats materialized? I've asked MCPS and here on DCUM and nobody can answer how they will continue to offer parttime Edison programs to students countywide and add 500 full time seats for resident Wheaton students to Edison which does not currently confer high school diplomas.

No, I cannot. Just that it's hope that they just plot the wheaton kids in there i guess with a traditional education? Think of it like an addition or portable classrooms to Wheaton high only it's at Edison which is very walkable from Wheaton?

But aren't the Edison classrooms being occupied by Edison students?

Only part time. so there's the other part, silly

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least everyone is starting to realize BOE will end up voting in favor of the Superintendent's proposal. No use tweaking at this point. Move this along.

Yea, it's worth it to see the Deborah realtor and Diana PTA person heads spin around exorcist style over the decision

Have any of you spoken out your concerns publicly, with your name attached to it?

Why would I? I approve of the Superintendent's recommendation. Let them grasp and straws and ruin their reputation on their own. Besides, you can tell them the public sentiment from this board.

I am just looking to understand if anyone has shared a real refutation of their statements. There IS no public sentiment that I can find.

Other than this thread, no - no one is publicly disagreeing with them. And this thread seems to be at least one VM family and then at least one troll who is trying to start trouble. (I really don’t think that person is actually from a WJ family.)

Strategy is to hold cards close if you are in the advantaged position. No need to battle it out publicly. Need to see what happens at the mtg. Rubber stamp is my guess.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is getting out of hand. Farmland folks, let’s remember these key points for when we speak to the BOE:

1) We are entitled to a FARMs rate that we are comfortable with.
2) Just because we didn’t advocate for “balance” in the past doesn’t mean we can’t advocate for it now.
3) Our property values are sacrosanct.

LOL! FARMland does not like FARMS kids. the irony

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Yea, it's playing the hot potato with VM or WW. They could only stomach 1 poor, brown school, not 2! boo hoo "We want parity and equity waaaa"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems a proposal to shift back to the original option B may go further. That option was prepared and presented in detail and got positive feedback from the community.

Going back to option B means sending WW back to overcrowded Wheaton, right? And reversing a bunch of un-related changes in Silver Spring? That doesn't make any sense. Why would they propose that rather than just switching the boundaries between WJ and Woodward?

Easiest is to simply swap ES area in WJ and Woodward.

Farmland into Wheaton or Kennedy would have a greater balancing effect on FARMs. And they can show just how genuine their sentiments are.

Say it louder for the people in the back! Let’s bus the wealthy white families to Wheaton to satisfy their complaints.

Yes! Bus the whites to Kennedy and Wheaton...oh wait, isn't that what the regional program is? Put the IB and Math/Science/Engineering program in the ghetto....aka bus the high performing whites (and asian americans) to MS13 territory

Wheaton will continue to have their STEM magnet which is certainly not in the ghetto as you describe. It’s a popular program and part of why Wheaton is currently so overcrowded.

Wheaton gets the Edison seats/capacity too!

Enter: Dude who says the seats are phantom at Edison and not real for Wheaton. ::insert his/her typical rant::

You found me. Can you explain in clear terms how those 500 seats materialized? I've asked MCPS and here on DCUM and nobody can answer how they will continue to offer parttime Edison programs to students countywide and add 500 full time seats for resident Wheaton students to Edison which does not currently confer high school diplomas.

Sounds like you support the Superintendent's recommendation? Is that the sentiment in the broader Wheaton cluster?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least everyone is starting to realize BOE will end up voting in favor of the Superintendent's proposal. No use tweaking at this point. Move this along.

Yea, it's worth it to see the Deborah realtor and Diana PTA person heads spin around exorcist style over the decision

Have any of you spoken out your concerns publicly, with your name attached to it?

Why would I? I approve of the Superintendent's recommendation. Let them grasp and straws and ruin their reputation on their own. Besides, you can tell them the public sentiment from this board.

I am just looking to understand if anyone has shared a real refutation of their statements. There IS no public sentiment that I can find.

Other than this thread, no - no one is publicly disagreeing with them. And this thread seems to be at least one VM family and then at least one troll who is trying to start trouble. (I really don’t think that person is actually from a WJ family.)

Strategy is to hold cards close if you are in the advantaged position. No need to battle it out publicly. Need to see what happens at the mtg. Rubber stamp is my guess.

I don’t know. If there is only one voice and the BOE doesn’t see through the hypocrisy, everyone may be in for a surprise. Hard to ignore the line of people in front of you with the same practiced NIMBY sob story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least everyone is starting to realize BOE will end up voting in favor of the Superintendent's proposal. No use tweaking at this point. Move this along.

Yea, it's worth it to see the Deborah realtor and Diana PTA person heads spin around exorcist style over the decision

Have any of you spoken out your concerns publicly, with your name attached to it?

Why would I? I approve of the Superintendent's recommendation. Let them grasp and straws and ruin their reputation on their own. Besides, you can tell them the public sentiment from this board.

I am just looking to understand if anyone has shared a real refutation of their statements. There IS no public sentiment that I can find.

Other than this thread, no - no one is publicly disagreeing with them. And this thread seems to be at least one VM family and then at least one troll who is trying to start trouble. (I really don’t think that person is actually from a WJ family.)

Strategy is to hold cards close if you are in the advantaged position. No need to battle it out publicly. Need to see what happens at the mtg. Rubber stamp is my guess.

That’s fine but then certainly no one should be on this thread trashing them, if that were true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least everyone is starting to realize BOE will end up voting in favor of the Superintendent's proposal. No use tweaking at this point. Move this along.

Yea, it's worth it to see the Deborah realtor and Diana PTA person heads spin around exorcist style over the decision

Have any of you spoken out your concerns publicly, with your name attached to it?

Why would I? I approve of the Superintendent's recommendation. Let them grasp and straws and ruin their reputation on their own. Besides, you can tell them the public sentiment from this board.

I am just looking to understand if anyone has shared a real refutation of their statements. There IS no public sentiment that I can find.

Other than this thread, no - no one is publicly disagreeing with them. And this thread seems to be at least one VM family and then at least one troll who is trying to start trouble. (I really don’t think that person is actually from a WJ family.)

Strategy is to hold cards close if you are in the advantaged position. No need to battle it out publicly. Need to see what happens at the mtg. Rubber stamp is my guess.

I don’t know. If there is only one voice and the BOE doesn’t see through the hypocrisy, everyone may be in for a surprise. Hard to ignore the line of people in front of you with the same practiced NIMBY sob story.

Disagree. They're ignoring the folks in Wootton study with no issue. They're about to be re-located despite the broad outcry.

And I'm sure they're not the only voice...they're getting emailed by people who support the Superintendent too. Just no need for them to make a pointless change dot org petition or humiliate themselves publicly with clearly racist testimony.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least everyone is starting to realize BOE will end up voting in favor of the Superintendent's proposal. No use tweaking at this point. Move this along.

Yea, it's worth it to see the Deborah realtor and Diana PTA person heads spin around exorcist style over the decision

Have any of you spoken out your concerns publicly, with your name attached to it?

Why would I? I approve of the Superintendent's recommendation. Let them grasp and straws and ruin their reputation on their own. Besides, you can tell them the public sentiment from this board.

I am just looking to understand if anyone has shared a real refutation of their statements. There IS no public sentiment that I can find.

Other than this thread, no - no one is publicly disagreeing with them. And this thread seems to be at least one VM family and then at least one troll who is trying to start trouble. (I really don’t think that person is actually from a WJ family.)

Strategy is to hold cards close if you are in the advantaged position. No need to battle it out publicly. Need to see what happens at the mtg. Rubber stamp is my guess.

That’s fine but then certainly no one should be on this thread trashing them, if that were true.

Isn't that the point of DCUM? it's fun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is getting out of hand. Farmland folks, let’s remember these key points for when we speak to the BOE:

1) We are entitled to a FARMs rate that we are comfortable with.
2) Just because we didn’t advocate for “balance” in the past doesn’t mean we can’t advocate for it now.
3) Our property values are sacrosanct.

LOL! FARMland does not like FARMS kids. the irony

+1

Yea, it's playing the hot potato with VM or WW. They could only stomach 1 poor, brown school, not 2! boo hoo "We want parity and equity waaaa"

Farmland petitions boil down to them only wanting White (and model minority Asians) only for their district. They can only stomach 12% Hispanic and 8% Black and 18% Farms. not a smidge more!!! they should volunteer themselves for Wheaton rather than volunteering other communities to move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems a proposal to shift back to the original option B may go further. That option was prepared and presented in detail and got positive feedback from the community.

Going back to option B means sending WW back to overcrowded Wheaton, right? And reversing a bunch of un-related changes in Silver Spring? That doesn't make any sense. Why would they propose that rather than just switching the boundaries between WJ and Woodward?

Easiest is to simply swap ES area in WJ and Woodward.

Farmland into Wheaton or Kennedy would have a greater balancing effect on FARMs. And they can show just how genuine their sentiments are.

Say it louder for the people in the back! Let’s bus the wealthy white families to Wheaton to satisfy their complaints.

Yes! Bus the whites to Kennedy and Wheaton...oh wait, isn't that what the regional program is? Put the IB and Math/Science/Engineering program in the ghetto....aka bus the high performing whites (and asian americans) to MS13 territory

Wheaton will continue to have their STEM magnet which is certainly not in the ghetto as you describe. It’s a popular program and part of why Wheaton is currently so overcrowded.

Wheaton gets the Edison seats/capacity too!

Enter: Dude who says the seats are phantom at Edison and not real for Wheaton. ::insert his/her typical rant::

You found me. Can you explain in clear terms how those 500 seats materialized? I've asked MCPS and here on DCUM and nobody can answer how they will continue to offer parttime Edison programs to students countywide and add 500 full time seats for resident Wheaton students to Edison which does not currently confer high school diplomas.

Sounds like you support the Superintendent's recommendation? Is that the sentiment in the broader Wheaton cluster?

No, I am not in the Wheaton or proposed WJ/Woodward clusters. I think it would be better to balance FARMS between Woodward and WJ because that is what would be best for the kids. But I don't expect Taylor or the BOE to do this, and I kind of get it, it's certainly not a magic bullet. I am frustrated that I don't see any urgency on their part in terms of improving outcomes for low income kids and this feels like low hanging fruit.

Wrt Wheaton capacity I am concerned as a taxpayer that they are promising capacity that doesn't exist and requires more spending to create. Spending that there is no money for. There is plenty of capacity in the existing buildings, and the entire purpose of the boundary study is to use that capacity, so they should do it. Even the Superintendent's recommendation leaves Wheaton somewhat over capacity. At the proposed utilization level I can kind of buy that some of that will be relieved by students attending Edison part time, but it's still insane to me they aren't doing more to relieve Wheaton. People will be angry in the short term and then they will get used to the new boundaries and be fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is getting out of hand. Farmland folks, let’s remember these key points for when we speak to the BOE:

1) We are entitled to a FARMs rate that we are comfortable with.
2) Just because we didn’t advocate for “balance” in the past doesn’t mean we can’t advocate for it now.
3) Our property values are sacrosanct.

LOL! FARMland does not like FARMS kids. the irony

+1

Yea, it's playing the hot potato with VM or WW. They could only stomach 1 poor, brown school, not 2! boo hoo "We want parity and equity waaaa"

Farmland petitions boil down to them only wanting White (and model minority Asians) only for their district. They can only stomach 12% Hispanic and 8% Black and 18% Farms. not a smidge more!!! they should volunteer themselves for Wheaton rather than volunteering other communities to move.

Or say they want to be sent to WJ. and give Woodward to the DCC once and for all. easy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems a proposal to shift back to the original option B may go further. That option was prepared and presented in detail and got positive feedback from the community.

Going back to option B means sending WW back to overcrowded Wheaton, right? And reversing a bunch of un-related changes in Silver Spring? That doesn't make any sense. Why would they propose that rather than just switching the boundaries between WJ and Woodward?

Easiest is to simply swap ES area in WJ and Woodward.

Farmland into Wheaton or Kennedy would have a greater balancing effect on FARMs. And they can show just how genuine their sentiments are.

Say it louder for the people in the back! Let’s bus the wealthy white families to Wheaton to satisfy their complaints.

Yes! Bus the whites to Kennedy and Wheaton...oh wait, isn't that what the regional program is? Put the IB and Math/Science/Engineering program in the ghetto....aka bus the high performing whites (and asian americans) to MS13 territory

Wheaton will continue to have their STEM magnet which is certainly not in the ghetto as you describe. It’s a popular program and part of why Wheaton is currently so overcrowded.

Wheaton gets the Edison seats/capacity too!

Enter: Dude who says the seats are phantom at Edison and not real for Wheaton. ::insert his/her typical rant::

You found me. Can you explain in clear terms how those 500 seats materialized? I've asked MCPS and here on DCUM and nobody can answer how they will continue to offer parttime Edison programs to students countywide and add 500 full time seats for resident Wheaton students to Edison which does not currently confer high school diplomas.

Sounds like you support the Superintendent's recommendation? Is that the sentiment in the broader Wheaton cluster?

No, I am not in the Wheaton or proposed WJ/Woodward clusters. I think it would be better to balance FARMS between Woodward and WJ because that is what would be best for the kids. But I don't expect Taylor or the BOE to do this, and I kind of get it, it's certainly not a magic bullet. I am frustrated that I don't see any urgency on their part in terms of improving outcomes for low income kids and this feels like low hanging fruit.

Wrt Wheaton capacity I am concerned as a taxpayer that they are promising capacity that doesn't exist and requires more spending to create. Spending that there is no money for. There is plenty of capacity in the existing buildings, and the entire purpose of the boundary study is to use that capacity, so they should do it. Even the Superintendent's recommendation leaves Wheaton somewhat over capacity. At the proposed utilization level I can kind of buy that some of that will be relieved by students attending Edison part time, but it's still insane to me they aren't doing more to relieve Wheaton. People will be angry in the short term and then they will get used to the new boundaries and be fine.

Two things:
1. you ignore the regional model will balance kids out between the 4 schools in the region.
2. you expect utopia or perfection. that won't happen and can't happen due to logistical challenges and increased expense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least everyone is starting to realize BOE will end up voting in favor of the Superintendent's proposal. No use tweaking at this point. Move this along.

Yea, it's worth it to see the Deborah realtor and Diana PTA person heads spin around exorcist style over the decision

Have any of you spoken out your concerns publicly, with your name attached to it?

Why would I? I approve of the Superintendent's recommendation. Let them grasp and straws and ruin their reputation on their own. Besides, you can tell them the public sentiment from this board.

I am just looking to understand if anyone has shared a real refutation of their statements. There IS no public sentiment that I can find.

Other than this thread, no - no one is publicly disagreeing with them. And this thread seems to be at least one VM family and then at least one troll who is trying to start trouble. (I really don’t think that person is actually from a WJ family.)

Strategy is to hold cards close if you are in the advantaged position. No need to battle it out publicly. Need to see what happens at the mtg. Rubber stamp is my guess.

That’s fine but then certainly no one should be on this thread trashing them, if that were true.

Isn't that the point of DCUM? it's fun.

I certainly don’t expect any better! But I do think it is gross to come on a forum and anonymously trash people by name. It is cowardly.