School Board Forum on "Boundary and Capacity"

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Anonymous wrote:Please fix the school boundaries in and around 20171. Thank you.

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This is the most urgent boundary crisis in the county.

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No mixed messages. I’ll be clear. If redistricting happened I would do everything I could legally do within my power to destroy the school boards’ political careers. And there are many well-resourced great falls residents who would likely do the same.

See, I’m a grown up!

Are you one of these people?

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2019/jun/25/great-falls-residents-fired-school-issues/

Not very nice.

“Busing is not a consideration.” You gotta love the chutzpah. They absolutely were considering it and the proof is in the work sessions, which were recorded.

None of the following would be considered "bussing":

Sending Great Falls kids to Herndon

Sending some West Potomac kids to Mt. Vernon

Sending some West Springfield kids to Lewis

These are all schools that have adjoining boundaries. The last two should have been done on enrollment and capacity alone.

Has or is the School Board proposing to bus kids past multiple other schools just to achieve some desired demographic breakdown? That would be "bussing".

+1. And going by FCPS projections sending Great Falls kids to Herndon in the not-too-distant future also should be done based on enrollment and capacity alone.

Yawn, we’ve dismantled all of this so many times in the previous hundreds of posts on this thread, I grow weary of destroying your arguments, just to have you regurgitate them. Quantity does not equal quantity.

To frame this debate though, you are just one aggravating poster on a barely read obscure discussion board. In the real world, there are hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of real! Fairfax county residents that would line up against a county wide redistricting. Certainly thousands of great falls residents would fight tooth and nail, but really no one wants their kids to move school districts.

You have ambitious dreams to drive Fairfax County into a mediocre-at-best, lowest common denominator school district, I will give you that. But man, if that ever came to fruition, the county as a whole would have significant regrets, with no way to put the cat back in the bag. I’d say be careful what you wish for, but we all know you’re blinded by this goal.

Oh, and one last point, we still haven’t forgotten your broadside racist screed against non native English speakers. Remember that hypocritical rant?

You're essentially admitting that FCPS's best schools are only excellent because they're able to segregate the poor and low-achieving kids away to other buildings; such that if mass mixing were to occur, FCPS would cease to be great. Regardless of the politics and whatnot, that's not a good defense of our school system. FCPS is great not because it has been able to maintain high reputations for roughly half of it's pyramids through segregation, but because it diligently funds even the poorest schools.

You can tell yourself whatever narrative you want, but nobody wants to move into the county not knowing what school district they get. The short term ramifications are that people would move or go private, and the long term ramifications are way worse - that people can’t trust that they would remain in whatever pyramid their house is currently in, hence significantly less interest in moving to Fairfax county. Think about why people move where they do, the number one reason is they like the schools.

As I mentioned, in the short term, people still have some good options when it comes to private schools. You might say good riddance getting the rich people out of the system, but again, you may want to be careful what you wish for - it’d be hard to get that tax basis back to fund “even the poorest schools”, when rich people no longer have an incentive to live in the county.

Because I know you are concerned, no need to worry about me. My kids will thrive regardless of what happens because we can afford the move or to send our kids private. I would lament the loss of the community that we’ve come to enjoy, but I guess that’s not the end of the world.

I do feel for the kids that get left behind in a mediocre school system, but, oh well, my kids will be just fine.

In the vernacular, this is the "I'll take my marbles and go home" argument. It's not especially convincing, since things that might send you running for the hills might also make it more likely for others to send their kids to, or keep their kids in, FCPS.

And, of course, the system doesn't become mediocre simply because a Langley feeder might get reassigned to Herndon (this is the tired "without me, you're nothing" argument). In years past, FCPS used to adjust boundaries annually, before the process became unduly politicized.

Again, tell yourself whatever narrative you want, and try pretending I’m making whatever argument suits you, but you know deep down that I’m right. And it’s not marbles, it’s tax dollars and school support that decreases, across the county. Believe it, don’t believe it, that’s fine, but it’s the reality that FCPS faces, whether you believe it or not.

I’d recommend an economics class for you, but I’m guessing that’s not your thing.

This is more about sociology than economics, and in particular your inflated sense of just how important you and your current neighbors are to the well-being of both the county and FCPS.

Adjusting boundaries such that kids who live much closer to Herndon than to Langley end up attending Herndon when Herndon has the space to accommodate them is unlikely to have any big impact effect. Some of you might go private or leave, and those who left would be replaced by other affluent people who are less racist and more confident in the ability of their children to learn without being surrounded entirely by upper-income families.

And there it is. Sociology. Least surprising thing I’ve read in this thread, and that’s saying something. Your lack of economic understanding gave that away before you even said it.

Four example, one of the most out there comments above: you think that all the people who leave will be replaced by affluent people who want to go to a less affluent school? Oh, sweet pie, that’s not the way the world works. I think your sociology teacher led you astray.

To counter your suggestion, there recently was a new Gulick development of $1.75-2.0M houses in the Justice High district that sold out in a few months, so nice areas in Great Falls would surely continue to attract affluent people even if they aren't zoned to Langley. Surely they have something else to recommend them other than some schools that are over 10 miles away.

Alexandria high school is what it is and they have lots of beautiful, expensive houses that occupied by families who send their children to private.

Government schools are a major factor in home-buying decisions, not the only one.
In the end those most affected by a declining government school are the working and middle class. My old high school was a top performer. 30 years later, my (wealthier) classmates who still live in town either send their own children to private or moved to a different neighborhood than the one they grew up in and their kids attend a school in the same system that now outranks our Alma mater.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please fix the school boundaries in and around 20171. Thank you.

+1

This is the most urgent boundary crisis in the county.

Agree. Consistently ignored.

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No mixed messages. I’ll be clear. If redistricting happened I would do everything I could legally do within my power to destroy the school boards’ political careers. And there are many well-resourced great falls residents who would likely do the same.

See, I’m a grown up!

Are you one of these people?

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2019/jun/25/great-falls-residents-fired-school-issues/

Not very nice.

“Busing is not a consideration.” You gotta love the chutzpah. They absolutely were considering it and the proof is in the work sessions, which were recorded.

None of the following would be considered "bussing":

Sending Great Falls kids to Herndon

Sending some West Potomac kids to Mt. Vernon

Sending some West Springfield kids to Lewis

These are all schools that have adjoining boundaries. The last two should have been done on enrollment and capacity alone.

Has or is the School Board proposing to bus kids past multiple other schools just to achieve some desired demographic breakdown? That would be "bussing".

+1. And going by FCPS projections sending Great Falls kids to Herndon in the not-too-distant future also should be done based on enrollment and capacity alone.

Yawn, we’ve dismantled all of this so many times in the previous hundreds of posts on this thread, I grow weary of destroying your arguments, just to have you regurgitate them. Quantity does not equal quantity.

To frame this debate though, you are just one aggravating poster on a barely read obscure discussion board. In the real world, there are hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of real! Fairfax county residents that would line up against a county wide redistricting. Certainly thousands of great falls residents would fight tooth and nail, but really no one wants their kids to move school districts.

You have ambitious dreams to drive Fairfax County into a mediocre-at-best, lowest common denominator school district, I will give you that. But man, if that ever came to fruition, the county as a whole would have significant regrets, with no way to put the cat back in the bag. I’d say be careful what you wish for, but we all know you’re blinded by this goal.

Oh, and one last point, we still haven’t forgotten your broadside racist screed against non native English speakers. Remember that hypocritical rant?

You're essentially admitting that FCPS's best schools are only excellent because they're able to segregate the poor and low-achieving kids away to other buildings; such that if mass mixing were to occur, FCPS would cease to be great. Regardless of the politics and whatnot, that's not a good defense of our school system. FCPS is great not because it has been able to maintain high reputations for roughly half of it's pyramids through segregation, but because it diligently funds even the poorest schools.

You can tell yourself whatever narrative you want, but nobody wants to move into the county not knowing what school district they get. The short term ramifications are that people would move or go private, and the long term ramifications are way worse - that people can’t trust that they would remain in whatever pyramid their house is currently in, hence significantly less interest in moving to Fairfax county. Think about why people move where they do, the number one reason is they like the schools.

As I mentioned, in the short term, people still have some good options when it comes to private schools. You might say good riddance getting the rich people out of the system, but again, you may want to be careful what you wish for - it’d be hard to get that tax basis back to fund “even the poorest schools”, when rich people no longer have an incentive to live in the county.

Because I know you are concerned, no need to worry about me. My kids will thrive regardless of what happens because we can afford the move or to send our kids private. I would lament the loss of the community that we’ve come to enjoy, but I guess that’s not the end of the world.

I do feel for the kids that get left behind in a mediocre school system, but, oh well, my kids will be just fine.

In the vernacular, this is the "I'll take my marbles and go home" argument. It's not especially convincing, since things that might send you running for the hills might also make it more likely for others to send their kids to, or keep their kids in, FCPS.

And, of course, the system doesn't become mediocre simply because a Langley feeder might get reassigned to Herndon (this is the tired "without me, you're nothing" argument). In years past, FCPS used to adjust boundaries annually, before the process became unduly politicized.

Again, tell yourself whatever narrative you want, and try pretending I’m making whatever argument suits you, but you know deep down that I’m right. And it’s not marbles, it’s tax dollars and school support that decreases, across the county. Believe it, don’t believe it, that’s fine, but it’s the reality that FCPS faces, whether you believe it or not.

I’d recommend an economics class for you, but I’m guessing that’s not your thing.

This is more about sociology than economics, and in particular your inflated sense of just how important you and your current neighbors are to the well-being of both the county and FCPS.

Adjusting boundaries such that kids who live much closer to Herndon than to Langley end up attending Herndon when Herndon has the space to accommodate them is unlikely to have any big impact effect. Some of you might go private or leave, and those who left would be replaced by other affluent people who are less racist and more confident in the ability of their children to learn without being surrounded entirely by upper-income families.

And there it is. Sociology. Least surprising thing I’ve read in this thread, and that’s saying something. Your lack of economic understanding gave that away before you even said it.

Four example, one of the most out there comments above: you think that all the people who leave will be replaced by affluent people who want to go to a less affluent school? Oh, sweet pie, that’s not the way the world works. I think your sociology teacher led you astray.

To counter your suggestion, there recently was a new Gulick development of $1.75-2.0M houses in the Justice High district that sold out in a few months, so nice areas in Great Falls would surely continue to attract affluent people even if they aren't zoned to Langley. Surely they have something else to recommend them other than some schools that are over 10 miles away.

Alexandria high school is what it is and they have lots of beautiful, expensive houses that occupied by families who send their children to private.

Government schools are a major factor in home-buying decisions, not the only one.
In the end those most affected by a declining government school are the working and middle class. My old high school was a top performer. 30 years later, my (wealthier) classmates who still live in town either send their own children to private or moved to a different neighborhood than the one they grew up in and their kids attend a school in the same system that now outranks our Alma mater.

We aren't talking about ACPS here.

If a Langley area got moved to Herndon, and the parents sent their kids to privates, they could move even more of Langley to Herndon to free up more space at Langley. As it turns out, many Langley families already send their kids to privates (probably a higher percentage than is the case among Herndon families).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please fix the school boundaries in and around 20171. Thank you.

+1

This is the most urgent boundary crisis in the county.

Agree. Consistently ignored.

What boundaries do you want to change in 20171?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please fix the school boundaries in and around 20171. Thank you.

+1

This is the most urgent boundary crisis in the county.

Agree. Consistently ignored.

Unfortunately, that’s because some people fear a domino effect in their own district.

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Anonymous wrote:Please fix the school boundaries in and around 20171. Thank you.

+1

This is the most urgent boundary crisis in the county.

Agree. Consistently ignored.

Unfortunately, that’s because some people fear a domino effect in their own district.

Probably true, but people might be more accepting when there are serious, long-term overcapacity issues that need to be addressed. Chantilly has been overcapacity for a decade. The Herndon/Langley discussion doesn't make any sense because both schools are under capacity, and it seems like people think there is some other motive for people pushing that agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:Please fix the school boundaries in and around 20171. Thank you.

+1

This is the most urgent boundary crisis in the county.

Agree. Consistently ignored.

Unfortunately, that’s because some people fear a domino effect in their own district.

Probably true, but people might be more accepting when there are serious, long-term overcapacity issues that need to be addressed. Chantilly has been overcapacity for a decade. The Herndon/Langley discussion doesn't make any sense because both schools are under capacity, and it seems like people think there is some other motive for people pushing that agenda.

They want to soak the rich Forestville families - demonstrated extensively on this thread.

Agreed that H/L doesn’t make any sense, unless you are a paternalistic sociologist with no economics sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Please fix the school boundaries in and around 20171. Thank you.

+1

This is the most urgent boundary crisis in the county.

Agree. Consistently ignored.

Unfortunately, that’s because some people fear a domino effect in their own district.

Probably true, but people might be more accepting when there are serious, long-term overcapacity issues that need to be addressed. Chantilly has been overcapacity for a decade. The Herndon/Langley discussion doesn't make any sense because both schools are under capacity, and it seems like people think there is some other motive for people pushing that agenda.

The Herndon/Langley discussion could make sense because Langley is near two other high schools (Marshall, McLean) that are or will be above capacity and is itself projected to be at full capacity (98%) within the next five years, yet shares a border with Herndon, which is projected to be 28% under capacity in five years.

Do you want to move kids out of Chantilly? Chantilly and Herndon don't share a boundary (unlike Langley and Herndon), so it seems you'd have to move Chantilly kids to Centreville (which probably wouldn't happen any earlier than 2030, when Centreville's renovation is finished) or to Westfield (and then move part of Westfield to Herndon).

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Anonymous wrote:Please fix the school boundaries in and around 20171. Thank you.

+1

This is the most urgent boundary crisis in the county.

Agree. Consistently ignored.

Unfortunately, that’s because some people fear a domino effect in their own district.

Probably true, but people might be more accepting when there are serious, long-term overcapacity issues that need to be addressed. Chantilly has been overcapacity for a decade. The Herndon/Langley discussion doesn't make any sense because both schools are under capacity, and it seems like people think there is some other motive for people pushing that agenda.

They want to soak the rich Forestville families - demonstrated extensively on this thread.

Agreed that H/L doesn’t make any sense, unless you are a paternalistic sociologist with no economics sense.

Forestville is a few miles from Herndon and 10-12 miles from Langley. In the mid-90s it got moved to Langley because Herndon was overcrowded. Now Langley is approaching full capacity and Herndon has space again. Not a hard call.

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No mixed messages. I’ll be clear. If redistricting happened I would do everything I could legally do within my power to destroy the school boards’ political careers. And there are many well-resourced great falls residents who would likely do the same.

See, I’m a grown up!

Are you one of these people?

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2019/jun/25/great-falls-residents-fired-school-issues/

Not very nice.

“Busing is not a consideration.” You gotta love the chutzpah. They absolutely were considering it and the proof is in the work sessions, which were recorded.

None of the following would be considered "bussing":

Sending Great Falls kids to Herndon

Sending some West Potomac kids to Mt. Vernon

Sending some West Springfield kids to Lewis

These are all schools that have adjoining boundaries. The last two should have been done on enrollment and capacity alone.

Has or is the School Board proposing to bus kids past multiple other schools just to achieve some desired demographic breakdown? That would be "bussing".

And here she goes off the deep end. Pretty soon she’s going to start railing against non native speakers again.

I was certainly not the previous poster that you refer to and I am not sure how anyone sane could interpret those potential changes listed above as "going off the deep end".

I agree with you. It's not going off the deep end. Why is west springfield an 8 and Lewis a 3 when they are literally right next to each other. I am going to say it why can't they even it out and both schools be 5. I am sure I will piss off everyone by saying that but so be it.

So, you hate excellence and would rather all schools be mediocre.

Thanks.

So excellence is Fairfax county is only for the kids with wealthy parents. Got it!

[Anonymous]

20171 is parts of oak hill, fox mill, floris, carson, Westfield, south lakes, Chantilly, oakton. It’s odd mix of boundary mgmt and makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:20171 is parts of oak hill, fox mill, floris, carson, Westfield, south lakes, Chantilly, oakton. It’s odd mix of boundary mgmt and makes no sense.

Other zip codes in the county feed into multiple schools. What do you propose they do?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please fix the school boundaries in and around 20171. Thank you.

+1

This is the most urgent boundary crisis in the county.

Agree. Consistently ignored.

Unfortunately, that’s because some people fear a domino effect in their own district.

Probably true, but people might be more accepting when there are serious, long-term overcapacity issues that need to be addressed. Chantilly has been overcapacity for a decade. The Herndon/Langley discussion doesn't make any sense because both schools are under capacity, and it seems like people think there is some other motive for people pushing that agenda.

They want to soak the rich Forestville families - demonstrated extensively on this thread.

Agreed that H/L doesn’t make any sense, unless you are a paternalistic sociologist with no economics sense.

Forestville is a few miles from Herndon and 10-12 miles from Langley. In the mid-90s it got moved to Langley because Herndon was overcrowded. Now Langley is approaching full capacity and Herndon has space again. Not a hard call.

Not a hard call assumes that moving kids to different school pyramids comes without cost. That is a very wrong assumption.

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No mixed messages. I’ll be clear. If redistricting happened I would do everything I could legally do within my power to destroy the school boards’ political careers. And there are many well-resourced great falls residents who would likely do the same.

See, I’m a grown up!

Are you one of these people?

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2019/jun/25/great-falls-residents-fired-school-issues/

Not very nice.

“Busing is not a consideration.” You gotta love the chutzpah. They absolutely were considering it and the proof is in the work sessions, which were recorded.

None of the following would be considered "bussing":

Sending Great Falls kids to Herndon

Sending some West Potomac kids to Mt. Vernon

Sending some West Springfield kids to Lewis

These are all schools that have adjoining boundaries. The last two should have been done on enrollment and capacity alone.

Has or is the School Board proposing to bus kids past multiple other schools just to achieve some desired demographic breakdown? That would be "bussing".

+1. And going by FCPS projections sending Great Falls kids to Herndon in the not-too-distant future also should be done based on enrollment and capacity alone.

Yawn, we’ve dismantled all of this so many times in the previous hundreds of posts on this thread, I grow weary of destroying your arguments, just to have you regurgitate them. Quantity does not equal quantity.

To frame this debate though, you are just one aggravating poster on a barely read obscure discussion board. In the real world, there are hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of real! Fairfax county residents that would line up against a county wide redistricting. Certainly thousands of great falls residents would fight tooth and nail, but really no one wants their kids to move school districts.

You have ambitious dreams to drive Fairfax County into a mediocre-at-best, lowest common denominator school district, I will give you that. But man, if that ever came to fruition, the county as a whole would have significant regrets, with no way to put the cat back in the bag. I’d say be careful what you wish for, but we all know you’re blinded by this goal.

Oh, and one last point, we still haven’t forgotten your broadside racist screed against non native English speakers. Remember that hypocritical rant?

You're essentially admitting that FCPS's best schools are only excellent because they're able to segregate the poor and low-achieving kids away to other buildings; such that if mass mixing were to occur, FCPS would cease to be great. Regardless of the politics and whatnot, that's not a good defense of our school system. FCPS is great not because it has been able to maintain high reputations for roughly half of it's pyramids through segregation, but because it diligently funds even the poorest schools.

You can tell yourself whatever narrative you want, but nobody wants to move into the county not knowing what school district they get. The short term ramifications are that people would move or go private, and the long term ramifications are way worse - that people can’t trust that they would remain in whatever pyramid their house is currently in, hence significantly less interest in moving to Fairfax county. Think about why people move where they do, the number one reason is they like the schools.

As I mentioned, in the short term, people still have some good options when it comes to private schools. You might say good riddance getting the rich people out of the system, but again, you may want to be careful what you wish for - it’d be hard to get that tax basis back to fund “even the poorest schools”, when rich people no longer have an incentive to live in the county.

Because I know you are concerned, no need to worry about me. My kids will thrive regardless of what happens because we can afford the move or to send our kids private. I would lament the loss of the community that we’ve come to enjoy, but I guess that’s not the end of the world.

I do feel for the kids that get left behind in a mediocre school system, but, oh well, my kids will be just fine.

In the vernacular, this is the "I'll take my marbles and go home" argument. It's not especially convincing, since things that might send you running for the hills might also make it more likely for others to send their kids to, or keep their kids in, FCPS.

And, of course, the system doesn't become mediocre simply because a Langley feeder might get reassigned to Herndon (this is the tired "without me, you're nothing" argument). In years past, FCPS used to adjust boundaries annually, before the process became unduly politicized.

Again, tell yourself whatever narrative you want, and try pretending I’m making whatever argument suits you, but you know deep down that I’m right. And it’s not marbles, it’s tax dollars and school support that decreases, across the county. Believe it, don’t believe it, that’s fine, but it’s the reality that FCPS faces, whether you believe it or not.

I’d recommend an economics class for you, but I’m guessing that’s not your thing.

This is more about sociology than economics, and in particular your inflated sense of just how important you and your current neighbors are to the well-being of both the county and FCPS.

Adjusting boundaries such that kids who live much closer to Herndon than to Langley end up attending Herndon when Herndon has the space to accommodate them is unlikely to have any big impact effect. Some of you might go private or leave, and those who left would be replaced by other affluent people who are less racist and more confident in the ability of their children to learn without being surrounded entirely by upper-income families.

And there it is. Sociology. Least surprising thing I’ve read in this thread, and that’s saying something. Your lack of economic understanding gave that away before you even said it.

Four example, one of the most out there comments above: you think that all the people who leave will be replaced by affluent people who want to go to a less affluent school? Oh, sweet pie, that’s not the way the world works. I think your sociology teacher led you astray.

To counter your suggestion, there recently was a new Gulick development of $1.75-2.0M houses in the Justice High district that sold out in a few months, so nice areas in Great Falls would surely continue to attract affluent people even if they aren't zoned to Langley. Surely they have something else to recommend them other than some schools that are over 10 miles away.

Alexandria high school is what it is and they have lots of beautiful, expensive houses that occupied by families who send their children to private.

Government schools are a major factor in home-buying decisions, not the only one.
In the end those most affected by a declining government school are the working and middle class. My old high school was a top performer. 30 years later, my (wealthier) classmates who still live in town either send their own children to private or moved to a different neighborhood than the one they grew up in and their kids attend a school in the same system that now outranks our Alma mater.

We aren't talking about ACPS here.

If a Langley area got moved to Herndon, and the parents sent their kids to privates, they could move even more of Langley to Herndon to free up more space at Langley. As it turns out, many Langley families already send their kids to privates (probably a higher percentage than is the case among Herndon families).

Yup and Langley may very well decline. If it gets Herndon a little less English language learner poor Hispanic it may well help the temperaments of those middle and working class white people who are perennially mad about Langley hoarding the White and Asian children to whom they are entitled.