Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update

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Anonymous wrote:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
What are we in for???

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2023/11/18/only-14-of-us-adults-have-gotten-latest-updated-covid-19-vaccine/

State data continues to show that the CDC is overestimating uptake of the new 2023-24 covid vaccine. New Mexico is reporting that 5% of its total population had taken the new shot as of Dec 10, based on actual vaccination records. That share includes children who have low vaccination rates, so it's likely that a slightly higher 8% of NM's adult population has taken the new shot. What does the CDC report on its website for New Mexico based on its self-reported NIS phone survey? The CDC says 20% of NM adults had taken the new shot as of Dec 2. The CDC's estimates of new shot uptake are significantly inflated relative to what actual state vaccination records are showing.
https://nmdoh-reports.shinyapps.io/ViralRespiratoryInfectionDashboard/
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/imz-managers/coverage/covidvaxview/interactive/adult-coverage-vaccination.html

Do you mean that less than 14 percent is the actual percentage???

Yes. Since the OP posted, the CDC is now saying 18% of US adults have taken the new shot based on its phone survey. Looking at actual state vaccination data, however, the share is likely closer to 10-12%.

That would explain some of the incentives being offered

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Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the 14% and still have not gotten covid. My family of four all got the booster in November. We had a dinner guest over who tested positive the day after she spent the evening with us. None of us got sick. I'm immunocompromised and work in person (teach) so I figured I would get sick but haven't.

A friend of mine got the original shot only and has gotten covid 3 or 4 times since. She works from home.

I do think covid does a number on folks' immune systems, making it more likely they'll get it again after the first time.

Great anecdote! I on the other hand have only had the original two shots back in Spring '21, and have never had covid. Despite being around my kids who have each had it each twice, coworkers who have had it, and in large packed with hordes of people convention centers many times for my kid's sport.

See how that works?

Right? PP, completely ignorant, says, "I do believe." I had one initial round of Covid vaccines and have never had Covid. I work in an office, grocery shop, go to parties, the mall, travel. And I do not wear a mask, ever. Just like many viruses, including the 1918/19 flu, the virus ripped through the community, killing those who were vulnerable at very high rates. Herd immunity kicked in, the virus mutated, and became endemic. This was going to happen. It always happens, for millennia. The vaccines had nothing to do with it. Biggest scam in history.

The problem with Covid is that it is still mutating into variants that are avoiding previous immunity, so herd immunity cannot happen. The good thing so far has been that the new variants are less virulent and/or previous immunity offers some protection against severe disease.

The fact remains though that an average of 1000 Americans per week are dying of Covid, and that number will increase as we go into the winter. And long Covid is a real thing.

You PP may be like my DH, 2 of his siblings and our oldest DC - so far immune from Covid. All of those people in my family have been living their lives just like you and have numerous stories of being somewhere where everyone else got Covid, but they didn't -- I believe something in their genetics keeps them from getting sick. You should be grateful instead dismissive of the vaccine, which has saved millions of lives.

It will exponentially increase - especially after the holidays. There is a "delayed" effect and people are thinking this year is mild.

Currently, covid hospitalizations are down 33% vs the same time last year. (new weekly hospitalizations 12/9/23 vs 12/10/22)
As of mid-November, covid deaths are down 42% vs the same time last year. (new weekly deaths 11/18/23 vs 11/19/22). (Death figures are slower to come in than hospitalizations.)
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklyhospitaladmissions_select_00
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklydeaths_select_00

Given the seasonal uptick in covid that is seen every winter, it is most appropriate to make year-over-year comparisons. Both current covid hospitalizations and deaths are down notably from last November/December, indicating current Omicron strains remain mild. And these lower hospitalizations/deaths relative to last winter are occurring despite minimal uptake of the new covid booster.

Thank goodness but isn't surge season January?

In 2020-21, the peak in weekly covid hospitalizations occurred 1/9/21.
In 2021-22, the peak was 1/15/22.
In 2022-23, the peak was 12/31/22.
The peak in weekly covid deaths occurred at the same time in 2020-21 and one week later in 2021-22 and 2022-23, but deaths are a lagging indicator.
Thus, if we follow last year's timetable, we're only a few weeks from the peak.

There is always a data lag that must be considered.

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Anonymous wrote:Anectodally speaking the only people I know getting COVID right now are those that have gotten their 4th, 5th and n boosters. My cousin just got her booster last week and has COVID this week. Quite an effective vaccine.

I think there is a real bias there though… It’s quite possible and very likely that the folks that are still testing for Covid are also the folks that got the shot. Think about it if - you are not concerned about Covid why would you test if you had a cold?

I don't test because I don't have a cold, or flue or any other symptoms. Not vaccinated, still never had Covid.

Wear a n95 and pleas talk your Dr. about vaccines

It's interesting to see what decisions doctors, nurses & other personnel have made for themselves with regards to covid boosters. The CDC conducts an annual self-reported survey of health care personnel (HCP) to monitor uptake of flu and covid vaccines. For 2022-23, the CDC found that only 39% of HCP took last fall's bivalent covid booster. For physicians, the share was 55%. For NP/PA 49% and for nurses 45%. (The CDC did not break out how many of these providers faced workplace mandates to take the shot.) Self-reported responses would likely be subject to upward bias given social pressure, so it is notable that the responses are as low as they are even so. Employer mandates also contributed to those who took the bivalent booster; for HCP who worked in places where the bivalent booster was not recommended or required, only 17% took it.

Thus, the CDC survey found that the majority of health care personnel did not take last year's bivalent booster themselves. The top three reasons given were 1) concern over vaccine side effects, 2) bad reaction to prior vaccine, and 3) belief that boosters do not provide additional protection to original vaccines. No survey has been released yet which covers the new 2023-24 covid vaccine.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/fluvaxview/hcp-coverage_22-23-estimates.htm

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Anonymous wrote:Uh, no thanks. They can experiment on some one else. My period has never been the same since my first shot. I’m convinced it was a mistake.

Says a woman who was going into peri or something.

To counteract you, not only was my period normal after getting every single covid vaccine. I went on to get pregnant on first try at 38 - so fertility seeming FINE. So like…can you not imply so RIDICULOUS connection or understand that my data point matters just as much (which is, frankly, they both matter zero).

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Anonymous wrote:Uh, no thanks. They can experiment on some one else. My period has never been the same since my first shot. I’m convinced it was a mistake.

Says a woman who was going into peri or something.

To counteract you, not only was my period normal after getting every single covid vaccine. I went on to get pregnant on first try at 38 - so fertility seeming FINE. So like…can you not imply so RIDICULOUS connection or understand that my data point matters just as much (which is, frankly, they both matter zero).

DP. Clearly, you haven't been following up with some of the information that's come out about this. Effects on menstrual cycle are a known side effect for many women, both from the mRNA vaccines and covid itself.
I've had 4 of the Pfizer vaccinations thus far, and I've had covid twice. I've had mid-cycle bleeding and/or shortened cycles along with heavier than normal flow after all 4 shots plus both rounds of covid. Numerous other women reporting similar. Yes, this is clearly a thing and, no, it isn't all just women "going into peri".

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Currently dealing with Covid and my period came at day 20. This is not a coincidence.

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Anonymous wrote:Currently dealing with Covid and my period came at day 20. This is not a coincidence.

What other symptoms are you experiencing?

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I mask at work to avoid TSV and flu, which is very prevalent.

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Anonymous wrote:Uh, no thanks. They can experiment on some one else. My period has never been the same since my first shot. I’m convinced it was a mistake.

Says a woman who was going into peri or something.

To counteract you, not only was my period normal after getting every single covid vaccine. I went on to get pregnant on first try at 38 - so fertility seeming FINE. So like…can you not imply so RIDICULOUS connection or understand that my data point matters just as much (which is, frankly, they both matter zero).

Right? Like, when you’re going into peri, you’re supposed to have a continuous period for six weeks straight, oftentimes so heavy that you can’t leave the house, completely out of nowhere. And when it begins within 24 hours of taking a new vaccine, why would you even think to question whether there could be a connection? It’s, like, so annoying when women observe things happening in their own bodies.

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I hope Pfizer and Moderna--and their shadow investors, take a bath on these vaccines.

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Anonymous wrote:Uh, no thanks. They can experiment on some one else. My period has never been the same since my first shot. I’m convinced it was a mistake.

Says a woman who was going into peri or something.

To counteract you, not only was my period normal after getting every single covid vaccine. I went on to get pregnant on first try at 38 - so fertility seeming FINE. So like…can you not imply so RIDICULOUS connection or understand that my data point matters just as much (which is, frankly, they both matter zero).

DP. Clearly, you haven't been following up with some of the information that's come out about this. Effects on menstrual cycle are a known side effect for many women, both from the mRNA vaccines and covid itself.
I've had 4 of the Pfizer vaccinations thus far, and I've had covid twice. I've had mid-cycle bleeding and/or shortened cycles along with heavier than normal flow after all 4 shots plus both rounds of covid. Numerous other women reporting similar. Yes, this is clearly a thing and, no, it isn't all just women "going into peri".

Another data point here whose menstrual cycle was not affected. Geez. Clearly we are not up to date on the fine sources that you are reading.

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Anonymous wrote:Uh, no thanks. They can experiment on some one else. My period has never been the same since my first shot. I’m convinced it was a mistake.

Says a woman who was going into peri or something.

To counteract you, not only was my period normal after getting every single covid vaccine. I went on to get pregnant on first try at 38 - so fertility seeming FINE. So like…can you not imply so RIDICULOUS connection or understand that my data point matters just as much (which is, frankly, they both matter zero).

DP. Clearly, you haven't been following up with some of the information that's come out about this. Effects on menstrual cycle are a known side effect for many women, both from the mRNA vaccines and covid itself.
I've had 4 of the Pfizer vaccinations thus far, and I've had covid twice. I've had mid-cycle bleeding and/or shortened cycles along with heavier than normal flow after all 4 shots plus both rounds of covid. Numerous other women reporting similar. Yes, this is clearly a thing and, no, it isn't all just women "going into peri".

Another data point here whose menstrual cycle was not affected. Geez. Clearly we are not up to date on the fine sources that you are reading.

DP. If you haven’t been affected, of course you’re haven’t been paying much attention to these sources, or dare I say, other data points. That’s great. Get all the shots you want. No one’s stopping you.

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Anonymous wrote:Uh, no thanks. They can experiment on some one else. My period has never been the same since my first shot. I’m convinced it was a mistake.

Says a woman who was going into peri or something.

To counteract you, not only was my period normal after getting every single covid vaccine. I went on to get pregnant on first try at 38 - so fertility seeming FINE. So like…can you not imply so RIDICULOUS connection or understand that my data point matters just as much (which is, frankly, they both matter zero).

DP. Clearly, you haven't been following up with some of the information that's come out about this. Effects on menstrual cycle are a known side effect for many women, both from the mRNA vaccines and covid itself.
I've had 4 of the Pfizer vaccinations thus far, and I've had covid twice. I've had mid-cycle bleeding and/or shortened cycles along with heavier than normal flow after all 4 shots plus both rounds of covid. Numerous other women reporting similar. Yes, this is clearly a thing and, no, it isn't all just women "going into peri".

Another data point here whose menstrual cycle was not affected. Geez. Clearly we are not up to date on the fine sources that you are reading.

Here's one: https://news.illinois.edu/view/6367/96242458

When I discussed this with my OBGYN and my PCP, they both indicated that isn't uncommon. It has to do with the body's immune response.
And if you look back into post histories here on DCUM, starting way back in 2021, you'll see several threads on this very issue, one in which quite a few of us were essentially told to sit down and shut up when we discussed this side effect.

Im not antivax. I've had 4 of them, even after having experienced this known side effect, because I am asthmatic and have an autoimmune condition and would like to avoid a serious bout of covid. And you’ll note from my earlier post that I experienced this after both vaccination and actual covid. But please let's not go down the road of "women are overreacting...you're all in peri" again.

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My thing with masks is unless you truly need to protect against viruses, that people want to escape being sick by masking is detrimental. Just like how we all lose immunity if we stop vax, if everyone just protects themselves, the day you stop, you'll be sicker. Building immunity is part of what keeps you well. Sometimes you get sick and you don't get sicker. All the RSV cases, all these bad sicknesses on the rise in intensity - it's somewhat because nobody got sick for years masking. It's why living on a farm and not constantly washing your hands isn't the worst thing in the world. On some level being 1000% protected and clean doesn't help you keep healthy. We're not going to have perfection. Life is somewhat about getting stronger and while unfortunate that we get sick, managing a cold is better than getting pneumonia. I think people should relax a bit. Some people are dispositioned to feel effects from certain viruses others do not. You should of course try to prevent yourself from harm but reasonably, be logical that nothing is 100% guaranteed. You can mask and isolate and wash your hands 100x a day and still get COVID! My family are really lax about this kind of stuff and we get sick 1x a year all of us. DS has had COVID 2x but the rest of us only once and we've not masked or taken many precautions other than gotten the vax/boosters. Of course that will help you not die and we don't want to die! But on a daily basis, you have to live your live and not be so afraid of it.

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Anonymous wrote:My thing with masks is unless you truly need to protect against viruses, that people want to escape being sick by masking is detrimental. Just like how we all lose immunity if we stop vax, if everyone just protects themselves, the day you stop, you'll be sicker. Building immunity is part of what keeps you well. Sometimes you get sick and you don't get sicker. All the RSV cases, all these bad sicknesses on the rise in intensity - it's somewhat because nobody got sick for years masking. It's why living on a farm and not constantly washing your hands isn't the worst thing in the world. On some level being 1000% protected and clean doesn't help you keep healthy. We're not going to have perfection. Life is somewhat about getting stronger and while unfortunate that we get sick, managing a cold is better than getting pneumonia. I think people should relax a bit. Some people are dispositioned to feel effects from certain viruses others do not. You should of course try to prevent yourself from harm but reasonably, be logical that nothing is 100% guaranteed. You can mask and isolate and wash your hands 100x a day and still get COVID! My family are really lax about this kind of stuff and we get sick 1x a year all of us. DS has had COVID 2x but the rest of us only once and we've not masked or taken many precautions other than gotten the vax/boosters. Of course that will help you not die and we don't want to die! But on a daily basis, you have to live your live and not be so afraid of it.

Says an able-bodied person w/o chronic respiratory trouble. Listen, I'm glad your kid got covid twice without long-covid effects. If you'd mask in public, I wouldn't have to share your lax standards. Nobody is masking 24/7. Those of us with sense are masking when we're indoors in shared spaces because we're not self-indulgent, science-denying dicks. Wearing a mask in public so you protect yourself and others isn't going to harm you. At all. It's not gonna lower your immunity; there are plenty of germs for your immune system to munch on at home, while you sleep, or bathe, or pet your pet(s), or take a walk outside w/o a mask. Masking indoors when in public reduces your chance of running into RSV, flu, covid and other illnesses. And, most kindly, it keeps you from spreading them. Be as lax as you want in your own space, and raise your standards in public because it's easy to not be a jerk these days, if you're at all inclined.