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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm one of the 14% and still have not gotten covid. My family of four all got the booster in November. We had a dinner guest over who tested positive the day after she spent the evening with us. None of us got sick. I'm immunocompromised and work in person (teach) so I figured I would get sick but haven't.

A friend of mine got the original shot only and has gotten covid 3 or 4 times since. She works from home.

I do think covid does a number on folks' immune systems, making it more likely they'll get it again after the first time.

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Great anecdote!  I on the other hand have only had the original two shots back in Spring '21, and have never had covid.  Despite being around my kids who have each had it each twice, coworkers who have had it, and in large packed with hordes of people convention centers many times for my kid's sport.

See how that works?[/quote]

Right? PP, completely ignorant, says, "I do believe." I  had one initial round of Covid vaccines and have never had Covid. I work in an office, grocery shop, go to parties, the mall, travel. And I do not wear a mask, ever. Just like many viruses, including the 1918/19 flu, the virus ripped through the community, killing those who were vulnerable at very high rates. Herd immunity kicked in, the virus mutated, and became endemic. This was going to happen. It always happens, for millennia. The vaccines had nothing to do with it. Biggest scam in history.[/quote]

The problem with Covid is that it is still mutating into variants that are avoiding previous immunity, so herd immunity cannot happen. The good thing so far has been that the new variants are less virulent and/or previous immunity offers some protection against severe disease.

The fact remains though that an average of 1000 Americans per week are dying of Covid, and that [b]number will increase as we go into the winter.[/b] And long Covid is a real thing.

You PP may be like my DH, 2 of his siblings and our oldest DC - so far immune from Covid. All of those people in my family have been living their lives just like you and have numerous stories of being somewhere where everyone else got Covid, but they didn't -- I believe something in their genetics keeps them from getting sick. You should be grateful instead dismissive of the vaccine, which has saved millions of lives.[/quote]
It will exponentially increase - especially after the holidays.  There is a "delayed" effect and people are thinking this year is mild.[/quote]
Currently, covid hospitalizations are down 33% vs the same time last year.  (new weekly hospitalizations 12/9/23 vs 12/10/22)
As of mid-November, covid deaths are down 42% vs the same time last year. (new weekly deaths 11/18/23 vs 11/19/22). (Death figures are slower to come in than hospitalizations.)
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklyhospitaladmissions_select_00
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklydeaths_select_00

Given the seasonal uptick in covid that is seen every winter, it is most appropriate to make year-over-year comparisons. Both current covid hospitalizations and deaths are down notably from last November/December, indicating current Omicron strains remain mild. And these lower hospitalizations/deaths relative to last winter are occurring despite minimal uptake of the new covid booster. [/quote]
Thank goodness but isn't surge season January?[/quote]
In 2020-21, the peak in weekly covid hospitalizations occurred 1/9/21.
In 2021-22, the peak was 1/15/22.
In 2022-23, the peak was 12/31/22.
The peak in weekly covid deaths occurred at the same time in 2020-21 and one week later in 2021-22 and 2022-23, but deaths are a lagging indicator.
Thus, if we follow last year's timetable, we're only a few weeks from the peak.[/quote]
There is always a data lag that must be considered.[/quote]

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