3 children dead in private Christian elementary school shooting in TN

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Anonymous wrote:I feel so incredibly helpless. I love my country and its citizens. I'm a nurse.

I will never once understand the US obsession with firearms. My opinion only - I think it's psychotic. If I could leave America, I would. I've had it with the sick, sick gun obsession. I'll never understand it and have read every argument for firearms. I'd rather leave you to kill each other with your bullets and "freedom". Disgusting.

I am with you. I hate all the pro-gun people at this point.

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A source close to the Hale family told The Daily Beast on Monday night that Hale was autistic, but high-functioning.

“And relatively recently announced she was transgender, identifying as he/him,” the source said, asking to remain unnamed so as to avoid additional family strife.

Reached by phone, Hale’s mother, Norma Fort Hale, told an ABC News reporter, “It’s very difficult now, we ask for privacy. I really can’t talk right now, I think I lost my daughter today.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nashville-covenant-school-shooting-suspect-identified-as-audrey-hale?ref=home

Well that checks out. She probably lost her son a long time ago. My mom lost me and I don’t know any trans people on good terms with their parents and I know a lot of other trans people. I’m sure someone out there exists but it seems pretty common to be completely estranged from one or both parents once you come out as trans. It just further isolates trans people if they don’t go out and try to find community and found family.

As the mother of a trans kid, I did not isolate my kid - my kid isolated me. Ask a question? PHOBIC!! Express a concern about treatment interfering with medicated conditions? PHOBIC! BIGOT! Spouse to me in private: "If you ask anything, our kid will commit suicide!" Me: "That sounds more like blackmail"

How did your kid get brainwashed? Public school? Or some other way?

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Anonymous wrote:I thought prayers at schools were supposed to stop the shootings.

Who told you that?

Churches and politicians.

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Anonymous wrote:NBC News identified the shooter as Audrey Hale.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nashville-christian-school-shooter-appears-former-student-police-chief-rcna76876

"Hale shot open a locked door to gain entrance to the school, officials said."

The f---ing side door poster in this thread, F-you.

Initially was reported as gained entry though a side door. Easy error in this case

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Anonymous wrote:We don't ban cars when drunk drivers kill people while driving. We need more mental health institutions in the USA.

Don't you have to pass a test and get a license to drive? You don't have to do shit to own a gun.

You have to pass a background test.

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A source close to the Hale family told The Daily Beast on Monday night that Hale was autistic, but high-functioning.

“And relatively recently announced she was transgender, identifying as he/him,” the source said, asking to remain unnamed so as to avoid additional family strife.

Reached by phone, Hale’s mother, Norma Fort Hale, told an ABC News reporter, “It’s very difficult now, we ask for privacy. I really can’t talk right now, I think I lost my daughter today.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nashville-covenant-school-shooting-suspect-identified-as-audrey-hale?ref=home

Well that checks out. She probably lost her son a long time ago. My mom lost me and I don’t know any trans people on good terms with their parents and I know a lot of other trans people. I’m sure someone out there exists but it seems pretty common to be completely estranged from one or both parents once you come out as trans. It just further isolates trans people if they don’t go out and try to find community and found family.

As the mother of a trans kid, I did not isolate my kid - my kid isolated me. Ask a question? PHOBIC!! Express a concern about treatment interfering with medicated conditions? PHOBIC! BIGOT! Spouse to me in private: "If you ask anything, our kid will commit suicide!" Me: "That sounds more like blackmail"

How did your kid get brainwashed? Public school? Or some other way?

Not through the schools. More the behavior of other kids in this toxic area, combined with an anxious personality. My kid was easy to suck in.

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't matter who the shooter is. They had access to a gun and committed a mass murder that included innocent children, just as our nation has had many, many other mass shootings along with all other forms of gun violence and we continue to do nothing.

Conservatives will continue to do nothing and if the shooter is trans (not confirmed at this time), perfect example of how they will continue to deflect from ACTUAL SOLUTIONS THAT WILL SAVE LIVES.

Stop the deflection and start with solutions.

We can’t control people but we can guns.

We can also be harsher to the popular kids(and bullies in general).

Again, the problem is too many guns.

Again, the problem is coddling bullies.

And what did you say to the fat loser gun owners open carry to scare/bully other people?

I personally say thank you. But you do you.

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I feel that the media are doing a great harm to women by calling the shooter a woman. Women simply DO NOT do such things.

Stop calling the shooter a woman.


PS - please pass real gun control in this country. I can't take any more of these school shootings.

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OMG - this family is beautiful! Truly lovely and perfect - each one of them.

So sad and such a terrible terrible loss for this to happen to a family like that.

Yes, what a lovely looking family. Thank you for posting, I should send them a sympathy card to their church.

Oh, you are welcome! And that is a kind and thoughtful gesture on your part; you’ve inspired me to do the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Australian here with a child who will be in elementary school in a few years- what I see of the USA horrifies me. Serious question, does anyone with school aged children think of moving countries to avoid the possibility of their child getting shot every time they go to school? Or do you take other measures such as sending your child to a school with heavy security where this is less likely to happen? I honestly don’t know what I would do if I lived in the USA.

Yes, I am thinking about moving to Europe.

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A source close to the Hale family told The Daily Beast on Monday night that Hale was autistic, but high-functioning.

“And relatively recently announced she was transgender, identifying as he/him,” the source said, asking to remain unnamed so as to avoid additional family strife.

Reached by phone, Hale’s mother, Norma Fort Hale, told an ABC News reporter, “It’s very difficult now, we ask for privacy. I really can’t talk right now, I think I lost my daughter today.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nashville-covenant-school-shooting-suspect-identified-as-audrey-hale?ref=home

Well that checks out. She probably lost her son a long time ago. My mom lost me and I don’t know any trans people on good terms with their parents and I know a lot of other trans people. I’m sure someone out there exists but it seems pretty common to be completely estranged from one or both parents once you come out as trans. It just further isolates trans people if they don’t go out and try to find community and found family.

As the mother of a trans kid, I did not isolate my kid - my kid isolated me. Ask a question? PHOBIC!! Express a concern about treatment interfering with medicated conditions? PHOBIC! BIGOT! Spouse to me in private: "If you ask anything, our kid will commit suicide!" Me: "That sounds more like blackmail"

I’m sure your child has a completely different view of how you behaved. For most of the people I know, their estrangement is related to their family’s christianity. It’s certainly true in my case. I’m sure my mother makes herself the victim in my transition as well. It’s all about her. I harmed her by transitioning. She didn’t want me to do this. What became apparent over time was that to her, my body and my life was just an extension of her’s. I was nothing but an NPC in the story of her life. Your child being LGBTQ isn’t about you.

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Anonymous wrote:The "motives" of mass shooters are interesting but are not sufficient explanations in themselves. What all these shooters seem to have in common--besides easy access to powerful weapons--is a history of psychological problems, suicidal tendencies, and a period of preparation/thinking about/researching/planning (i.e., they're usually not spontaneous). Here is a short summary of one study that looked for common traits in mass shooters.

1. The path of violence often begins with early childhood trauma. At a young age, 42% of all mass shooters experienced physical abuse, sexual abuse, parental suicide, or were a victim of severe bullying. Researchers say if unaddressed, later in life, the trauma can feed a perpetrator's rage.

2. The second step on the pathway to violence is a crisis: A loss of a job, a breakup, a feeling of hopelessness. In many cases, it's a suicidal crisis. Seventy-two percent of mass shooters were suicidal either before and at the time of the shooting.

3. Those suicidal thoughts lead to the third step, radicalization. The Violence Project found perpetrators time and again search guidance -- going to the internet, reading manifestos of past gunmen, ending up in chat rooms where mass shooters are revered, and many then share their own plans. Forty-four percent of mass shooters leaked their plans, often posting about it on social media.

4. The final stage is access to a firearm. According to the National Institute of Justice, 77% of mass shooters got their guns through a legal purchase, often gaining access close to the time of the shooting.


A look into the traits of a mass shooter
https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/a-look-into-the-traits-of-a-mass-shooter/

This post is missing the #1 thing that all mass shooters have in common.

#1 thing is a gun. Anyone suffering from these kinds of mental crisis issues should never be allowed access to a gun.

Only cowards want a gun. Fight with your fists, you alphas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ And it's really sad to see people giving up on this country. My father who fought in WW2 is turning over in his grave.

So what are you doing in his honor?

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Anonymous wrote:https://nypost.com/2023/03/27/mother-of-nashville-school-shooter-audrey-hale-shared-several-gun-control-posts-on-social-media/amp/

Can’t help but wonder if his mom’s gun control advocacy in some way contributed to his decision to commit suicide by mass shooting.

If his mom was successful, he would not have a gun to shoot children. Are you an imbecile?

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Anonymous wrote:Australian here with a child who will be in elementary school in a few years- what I see of the USA horrifies me. Serious question, does anyone with school aged children think of moving countries to avoid the possibility of their child getting shot every time they go to school? Or do you take other measures such as sending your child to a school with heavy security where this is less likely to happen? I honestly don’t know what I would do if I lived in the USA.

Yes, I am thinking about moving to Europe.

Americans are generally taxed on worldwide income. Add about a 20% European Value Added Tax (VAT) on top of that and it just sounds impossible.