FCPS comprehensive boundary review

[Anonymous]

Nods head in agreement with 11:03 and 11:41

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, agreed. Parent and Community Feedback is for show, if based on former SB and Superintendent behavior and pattern ( former Gatehouse employee).

To the moms fighting over drive time, WSHS students have their own cars and the drives through both rush hours will be significantly longer through the Mixing Bowl, plus there is no parking at Lewis.

This looks like old fashioned bussing, which may bring up scores for current Lewis students, but will do absolutely nothing for West Springfield students, based on historical data.

Lewis used to have around 2100 kids back in the early 2000s, back when all of Daventry was assigned to Lee. That was also the peak era of years of construction in the mixing bowl for EZ Lane expansion. It seems to me the traffic situation is not the gigantic hurdle it is made out to be if the school operated just fine at those numbers back then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, agreed. Parent and Community Feedback is for show, if based on former SB and Superintendent behavior and pattern ( former Gatehouse employee).

To the moms fighting over drive time, WSHS students have their own cars and the drives through both rush hours will be significantly longer through the Mixing Bowl, plus there is no parking at Lewis.

This looks like old fashioned bussing, which may bring up scores for current Lewis students, but will do absolutely nothing for West Springfield students, based on historical data.

Lewis used to have around 2100 kids back in the early 2000s, back when all of Daventry was assigned to Lee. That was also the peak era of years of construction in the mixing bowl for EZ Lane expansion. It seems to me the traffic situation is not the gigantic hurdle it is made out to be if the school operated just fine at those numbers back then.

No matter the changes, people will run from Lewis and schools like it forever. Boundaries can change but the school will always end up in the same state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, agreed. Parent and Community Feedback is for show, if based on former SB and Superintendent behavior and pattern ( former Gatehouse employee).

To the moms fighting over drive time, WSHS students have their own cars and the drives through both rush hours will be significantly longer through the Mixing Bowl, plus there is no parking at Lewis.

This looks like old fashioned bussing, which may bring up scores for current Lewis students, but will do absolutely nothing for West Springfield students, based on historical data.

Lewis used to have around 2100 kids back in the early 2000s, back when all of Daventry was assigned to Lee. That was also the peak era of years of construction in the mixing bowl for EZ Lane expansion. It seems to me the traffic situation is not the gigantic hurdle it is made out to be if the school operated just fine at those numbers back then.

No matter the changes, people will run from Lewis and schools like it forever. Boundaries can change but the school will always end up in the same state.

Root cause - importation of poverty. Lee/Lewis wasn't always this poor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, agreed. Parent and Community Feedback is for show, if based on former SB and Superintendent behavior and pattern ( former Gatehouse employee).

To the moms fighting over drive time, WSHS students have their own cars and the drives through both rush hours will be significantly longer through the Mixing Bowl, plus there is no parking at Lewis.

This looks like old fashioned bussing, which may bring up scores for current Lewis students, but will do absolutely nothing for West Springfield students, based on historical data.

Lewis used to have around 2100 kids back in the early 2000s, back when all of Daventry was assigned to Lee. That was also the peak era of years of construction in the mixing bowl for EZ Lane expansion. It seems to me the traffic situation is not the gigantic hurdle it is made out to be if the school operated just fine at those numbers back then.

No matter the changes, people will run from Lewis and schools like it forever. Boundaries can change but the school will always end up in the same state.

Root cause - importation of poverty. Lee/Lewis wasn't always this poor.

You can say that about every bad school in FCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, agreed. Parent and Community Feedback is for show, if based on former SB and Superintendent behavior and pattern ( former Gatehouse employee).

To the moms fighting over drive time, WSHS students have their own cars and the drives through both rush hours will be significantly longer through the Mixing Bowl, plus there is no parking at Lewis.

This looks like old fashioned bussing, which may bring up scores for current Lewis students, but will do absolutely nothing for West Springfield students, based on historical data.

Lewis used to have around 2100 kids back in the early 2000s, back when all of Daventry was assigned to Lee. That was also the peak era of years of construction in the mixing bowl for EZ Lane expansion. It seems to me the traffic situation is not the gigantic hurdle it is made out to be if the school operated just fine at those numbers back then.

No matter the changes, people will run from Lewis and schools like it forever. Boundaries can change but the school will always end up in the same state.

Root cause - importation of poverty. Lee/Lewis wasn't always this poor.

You can say that about every bad school in FCPS

That is true. Some schools have been given the burden while others skate free.

[Anonymous]

When the SB spends funds that could be used to help poor students on renaming a school, the priorities are screwed up. They could have taken away all the honorariums of Lee and references to him without changing the name. They could have just called it "Lee" and saved a lot of money.

Then, adding insult to injury, they spent money on a program that no one really understands and doesn't help kids who cannot speak English or read.

Certainly, we don't need to be naming schools after Confederate generals, but we can easily adjust the names without honoring anyone.

It's called priorities. The top priority should be educating the students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When the SB spends funds that could be used to help poor students on renaming a school, the priorities are screwed up. They could have taken away all the honorariums of Lee and references to him without changing the name. They could have just called it "Lee" and saved a lot of money.

Then, adding insult to injury, they spent money on a program that no one really understands and doesn't help kids who cannot speak English or read.

Certainly, we don't need to be naming schools after Confederate generals, but we can easily adjust the names without honoring anyone.

It's called priorities. The top priority should be educating the students.

Absolutely this. And it’s not like the boundary changes are actually going to help any of the kids in these schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When the SB spends funds that could be used to help poor students on renaming a school, the priorities are screwed up. They could have taken away all the honorariums of Lee and references to him without changing the name. They could have just called it "Lee" and saved a lot of money.

Then, adding insult to injury, they spent money on a program that no one really understands and doesn't help kids who cannot speak English or read.

Certainly, we don't need to be naming schools after Confederate generals, but we can easily adjust the names without honoring anyone.

It's called priorities. The top priority should be educating the students.

Absolutely this. And it’s not like the boundary changes are actually going to help any of the kids in these schools.

Have you spoken to anyone in Reston about whether they feel South Lakes HS is a stronger school now than it was in 2008, before a redistricting, when it had 1375 kids and was seen as a school to avoid. Now it has about 2400 kids and gets many pupil placements every year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When the SB spends funds that could be used to help poor students on renaming a school, the priorities are screwed up. They could have taken away all the honorariums of Lee and references to him without changing the name. They could have just called it "Lee" and saved a lot of money.

Then, adding insult to injury, they spent money on a program that no one really understands and doesn't help kids who cannot speak English or read.

Certainly, we don't need to be naming schools after Confederate generals, but we can easily adjust the names without honoring anyone.

It's called priorities. The top priority should be educating the students.

Absolutely this. And it’s not like the boundary changes are actually going to help any of the kids in these schools.

Have you spoken to anyone in Reston about whether they feel South Lakes HS is a stronger school now than it was in 2008, before a redistricting, when it had 1375 kids and was seen as a school to avoid. Now it has about 2400 kids and gets many pupil placements every year.

Did that actually help any of the lower performing students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When the SB spends funds that could be used to help poor students on renaming a school, the priorities are screwed up. They could have taken away all the honorariums of Lee and references to him without changing the name. They could have just called it "Lee" and saved a lot of money.

Then, adding insult to injury, they spent money on a program that no one really understands and doesn't help kids who cannot speak English or read.

Certainly, we don't need to be naming schools after Confederate generals, but we can easily adjust the names without honoring anyone.

It's called priorities. The top priority should be educating the students.

Absolutely this. And it’s not like the boundary changes are actually going to help any of the kids in these schools.

Have you spoken to anyone in Reston about whether they feel South Lakes HS is a stronger school now than it was in 2008, before a redistricting, when it had 1375 kids and was seen as a school to avoid. Now it has about 2400 kids and gets many pupil placements every year.

Did that actually help any of the lower performing students?

The people I know there don't have low-performing kids, but they felt the school improved with more kids. In any event, it's a pivot on your part since the prior statement was "And it’s not like the boundary changes are actually going to help any of the kids in these schools."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When the SB spends funds that could be used to help poor students on renaming a school, the priorities are screwed up. They could have taken away all the honorariums of Lee and references to him without changing the name. They could have just called it "Lee" and saved a lot of money.

Then, adding insult to injury, they spent money on a program that no one really understands and doesn't help kids who cannot speak English or read.

Certainly, we don't need to be naming schools after Confederate generals, but we can easily adjust the names without honoring anyone.

It's called priorities. The top priority should be educating the students.

Absolutely this. And it’s not like the boundary changes are actually going to help any of the kids in these schools.

Have you spoken to anyone in Reston about whether they feel South Lakes HS is a stronger school now than it was in 2008, before a redistricting, when it had 1375 kids and was seen as a school to avoid. Now it has about 2400 kids and gets many pupil placements every year.

Did that actually help any of the lower performing students?

The people I know there don't have low-performing kids, but they felt the school improved with more kids. In any event, it's a pivot on your part since the prior statement was "And it’s not like the boundary changes are actually going to help any of the kids in these schools."

I'm the PP who asked if it helped any of the lower performing students but I am not the person who said it wouldn't help any of the kids in the schools. I will try to find data to answer my own question though, I'm sure it's out there somewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When the SB spends funds that could be used to help poor students on renaming a school, the priorities are screwed up. They could have taken away all the honorariums of Lee and references to him without changing the name. They could have just called it "Lee" and saved a lot of money.

Then, adding insult to injury, they spent money on a program that no one really understands and doesn't help kids who cannot speak English or read.

Certainly, we don't need to be naming schools after Confederate generals, but we can easily adjust the names without honoring anyone.

It's called priorities. The top priority should be educating the students.

Absolutely this. And it’s not like the boundary changes are actually going to help any of the kids in these schools.

Have you spoken to anyone in Reston about whether they feel South Lakes HS is a stronger school now than it was in 2008, before a redistricting, when it had 1375 kids and was seen as a school to avoid. Now it has about 2400 kids and gets many pupil placements every year.

Yes. I have friends whose kids go there. They would much prefer the school be AP over IB.

And, Westfield was considered better than Chantilly before South Lakes took the 2 (1 and a half schools) of their more affluent students. They also took a good elementary schneiool from Oakton, but Oakton received replacements of more affluent neighborhood. So, there are winners and losers. South Lakes PTA got what they wanted. The PTA selected the neighborhoods. This is a fact. The PTA had a website that published their plans--untili Fairfax Underground revealed it. Then, the website went away. They had maps and demographics and everything. They wanted Armstrong and Aldrin, but Herndon threw a fit. It was ugly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When the SB spends funds that could be used to help poor students on renaming a school, the priorities are screwed up. They could have taken away all the honorariums of Lee and references to him without changing the name. They could have just called it "Lee" and saved a lot of money.

Then, adding insult to injury, they spent money on a program that no one really understands and doesn't help kids who cannot speak English or read.

Certainly, we don't need to be naming schools after Confederate generals, but we can easily adjust the names without honoring anyone.

It's called priorities. The top priority should be educating the students.

Absolutely this. And it’s not like the boundary changes are actually going to help any of the kids in these schools.

Have you spoken to anyone in Reston about whether they feel South Lakes HS is a stronger school now than it was in 2008, before a redistricting, when it had 1375 kids and was seen as a school to avoid. Now it has about 2400 kids and gets many pupil placements every year.

Yes. I have friends whose kids go there. They would much prefer the school be AP over IB.

And, Westfield was considered better than Chantilly before South Lakes took the 2 (1 and a half schools) of their more affluent students. They also took a good elementary schneiool from Oakton, but Oakton received replacements of more affluent neighborhood. So, there are winners and losers. South Lakes PTA got what they wanted. The PTA selected the neighborhoods. This is a fact. The PTA had a website that published their plans--untili Fairfax Underground revealed it. Then, the website went away. They had maps and demographics and everything. They wanted Armstrong and Aldrin, but Herndon threw a fit. It was ugly.

I am 19:19. There is another poster who also responded. The ones I know also have higher performers. From what I hear, there is still a strong gang presence, but, like other large schools, there are essentially two schools there.
The reason there is a large PP there is from Herndon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When the SB spends funds that could be used to help poor students on renaming a school, the priorities are screwed up. They could have taken away all the honorariums of Lee and references to him without changing the name. They could have just called it "Lee" and saved a lot of money.

Then, adding insult to injury, they spent money on a program that no one really understands and doesn't help kids who cannot speak English or read.

Certainly, we don't need to be naming schools after Confederate generals, but we can easily adjust the names without honoring anyone.

It's called priorities. The top priority should be educating the students.

Absolutely this. And it’s not like the boundary changes are actually going to help any of the kids in these schools.

Have you spoken to anyone in Reston about whether they feel South Lakes HS is a stronger school now than it was in 2008, before a redistricting, when it had 1375 kids and was seen as a school to avoid. Now it has about 2400 kids and gets many pupil placements every year.

Yes. I have friends whose kids go there. They would much prefer the school be AP over IB.

And, Westfield was considered better than Chantilly before South Lakes took the 2 (1 and a half schools) of their more affluent students. They also took a good elementary schneiool from Oakton, but Oakton received replacements of more affluent neighborhood. So, there are winners and losers. South Lakes PTA got what they wanted. The PTA selected the neighborhoods. This is a fact. The PTA had a website that published their plans--untili Fairfax Underground revealed it. Then, the website went away. They had maps and demographics and everything. They wanted Armstrong and Aldrin, but Herndon threw a fit. It was ugly.

Didn’t South Lakes also get affluent neighborhoods from Madison? South Lakes was centrally located, so redistricting wasn’t terribly difficult there.