Official TJ Admissions Decisions Results for the Class of 2025

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Anonymous wrote:Well. They checked all the boxes. Not sure how a 7% ELL (???? Which makes no sense given the honors English requirements and lack of ELL services) survives. Or How TJ supports a jump from 2% FARMs to 25% FARMs— especially given the parent supports, carpools, etc required.

Thank god my kid graduated in 2020. They now have equity. All the kids I know got WL’d, including some blowing pre-Calc out of the water in Middle School and with state and national STEM awards. But hey— equity y’all.

Your example is why there needed to be a change. Why should kids need to be in precalc in MS in order to gain access to a public HS? And you think TJ should not admit FARM students because they might not be able to carpool to after school events? SMH.

I understand you making a case against all the prepping, but you are acting as if there is NOTHING at all that qualifies a kid for TJ. If you think that every single STEM achievement counts for nothing, then just have a lottery.

Every kid has access to a public HS. No kid has access to all public HSs.

I agree, have a lottery, which is what we have. You make sure kids meet a base amount of academic achievement and then lottery.

This was not a lottery. They deliberately chose the less advanced kids over the more advanced. What kind of a Governor's School does that?

That's not true. Many STEM award winners were accepted. Maybe not your child? Maybe they did not want to go and have been pushed by you for so many years to prep for TJ that you thought you could will it to happen.

This is what they’re struggling with. For years TJ’s one-dimensional admissions process has preferred B- versions of their best students to A+ versions of a different type of kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh please, without condescending banality would DCUM even exist?

I'm sad, however, when our condescending banality is a divisive trait rather than a unifying one.

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Anonymous wrote:Asians from 73 percent to around 54 percent. Wow. One group really took a hit here.

Discrimination

Yep. FCPS is going to spend so much money losing this lawsuit.

So you're saying FCPS can never make changes to TJ that impact the percent of Asian students? It can't decide to better serve all of fairfax county instead of having a few feeder schools account for a vast majority of the slots? Good luck with that argument. Disparate impact is not per se illegal.

FCPS and SB can't say that the stated intent is to reduce the percentage of Asian students and then go on to explicitly act on that. Anyone with decency and empathy can see that it is just plain wrong. And maybe even illegal.

The high percentage of Asians was a symptom of a deeper problem. Any change to admissions would inevitably reduce the percentage of Asians.

Deeper problem is your prejudiced mind. Look in a mirror and have the courage to admit it to yourself at least.

She’s right. Unless you don’t think cheating is a problem I guess. The prep places boasted huge success and were predominantly Asian kids.

Shut down the prep places as you call it if it is cheating. You can't explicitly target a group in a public institution. That is illegal.

You cannot shut down those businesses. And the only groups targeted are the cheaters.

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Anonymous wrote:Well. They checked all the boxes. Not sure how a 7% ELL (???? Which makes no sense given the honors English requirements and lack of ELL services) survives. Or How TJ supports a jump from 2% FARMs to 25% FARMs— especially given the parent supports, carpools, etc required.

Thank god my kid graduated in 2020. They now have equity. All the kids I know got WL’d, including some blowing pre-Calc out of the water in Middle School and with state and national STEM awards. But hey— equity y’all.

Your example is why there needed to be a change. Why should kids need to be in precalc in MS in order to gain access to a public HS? And you think TJ should not admit FARM students because they might not be able to carpool to after school events? SMH.

No one needs to be in pre calc to access a public school. The pre calc kids, though, need to be in a school like TJ so they can take advantage of all of the really cool post calc math classes. The very small handful of kids doing pre calc in 8th are brilliant at math and love all things math. That sounds like an excellent candidate for TJ.

Now that TJ has accepted so many Algebra 1 kids and so few Algebra 2 or pre calc kids, will they no longer have the critical mass needed to offer their broad array of post calc math classes?

Uh, no. Just no. FCPS needs to stop rewarding radical acceleration like this. The ELL and FARM students who are academic stars and want STEM need to be allowed into TJ.

Your accelerated kid does not need TJ.

I totally get why every parent who went this route is upset now. It was the sure way into TJ. Now it’s not.

To be clear math acceleration isn’t terrible. That’s up to the parent. It’s just a clear sign the kid is getting outside enrichment in some form that isn’t a possibility to all FCPS students.

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Uh, no. Just no. FCPS needs to stop rewarding radical acceleration like this. The ELL and FARM students who are academic stars and want STEM need to be allowed into TJ.

Your accelerated kid does not need TJ.

I totally get why every parent who went this route is upset now. It was the sure way into TJ. Now it’s not.

To be clear math acceleration isn’t terrible. That’s up to the parent. It’s just a clear sign the kid is getting outside enrichment in some form that isn’t a possibility to all FCPS students.

The only problem with your argument is that it is not a sure sign of outside enrichment.
Why can't people get into their thick skulls that TJ admissions is not designed to hose over FARMs students? Similarly, admission of unqualified student won't help anyone. When it come to high school admissions, it is already too late. Family values may be more important than education resources. Also, prepping can help testing but won't necessarily adequately prepare a student. Asians are not intellectually superior but may have some good values when it comes to education.
As far as some students deserving the opportunities provided by TJ and others not, screw you. FCPS should try to provide the best education for each student subject to budgetary constraints. I am so sick of the racists on both sides of this issue.

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Uh, no. Just no. FCPS needs to stop rewarding radical acceleration like this. The ELL and FARM students who are academic stars and want STEM need to be allowed into TJ.

Your accelerated kid does not need TJ.

I totally get why every parent who went this route is upset now. It was the sure way into TJ. Now it’s not.

To be clear math acceleration isn’t terrible. That’s up to the parent. It’s just a clear sign the kid is getting outside enrichment in some form that isn’t a possibility to all FCPS students.

The only problem with your argument is that it is not a sure sign of outside enrichment.
Why can't people get into their thick skulls that TJ admissions is not designed to hose over FARMs students? Similarly, admission of unqualified student won't help anyone. When it come to high school admissions, it is already too late. Family values may be more important than education resources. Also, prepping can help testing but won't necessarily adequately prepare a student. Asians are not intellectually superior but may have some good values when it comes to education.
As far as some students deserving the opportunities provided by TJ and others not, screw you. FCPS should try to provide the best education for each student subject to budgetary constraints. I am so sick of the racists on both sides of this issue.

It is a sure sign of outside enrichment. I have a profoundly gifted child. Even profoundly gifted kids do not learn above grade level math without outside enrichment.

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Uh, no. Just no. FCPS needs to stop rewarding radical acceleration like this. The ELL and FARM students who are academic stars and want STEM need to be allowed into TJ.

Your accelerated kid does not need TJ.

I totally get why every parent who went this route is upset now. It was the sure way into TJ. Now it’s not.

To be clear math acceleration isn’t terrible. That’s up to the parent. It’s just a clear sign the kid is getting outside enrichment in some form that isn’t a possibility to all FCPS students.

The only problem with your argument is that it is not a sure sign of outside enrichment.
Why can't people get into their thick skulls that TJ admissions is not designed to hose over FARMs students? Similarly, admission of unqualified student won't help anyone. When it come to high school admissions, it is already too late. Family values may be more important than education resources. Also, prepping can help testing but won't necessarily adequately prepare a student. Asians are not intellectually superior but may have some good values when it comes to education.
As far as some students deserving the opportunities provided by TJ and others not, screw you. FCPS should try to provide the best education for each student subject to budgetary constraints. I am so sick of the racists on both sides of this issue.

It is a sure sign of outside enrichment. I have a profoundly gifted child. Even profoundly gifted kids do not learn above grade level math without outside enrichment.

This is not true. Kids are sometimes accelerated within FCPS in the early grades through their own readiness and exploration, no enrichment at play.

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Anonymous wrote:[

Uh, no. Just no. FCPS needs to stop rewarding radical acceleration like this. The ELL and FARM students who are academic stars and want STEM need to be allowed into TJ.

Your accelerated kid does not need TJ.

I totally get why every parent who went this route is upset now. It was the sure way into TJ. Now it’s not.

To be clear math acceleration isn’t terrible. That’s up to the parent. It’s just a clear sign the kid is getting outside enrichment in some form that isn’t a possibility to all FCPS students.

The only problem with your argument is that it is not a sure sign of outside enrichment.
Why can't people get into their thick skulls that TJ admissions is not designed to hose over FARMs students? Similarly, admission of unqualified student won't help anyone. When it come to high school admissions, it is already too late. Family values may be more important than education resources. Also, prepping can help testing but won't necessarily adequately prepare a student. Asians are not intellectually superior but may have some good values when it comes to education.
As far as some students deserving the opportunities provided by TJ and others not, screw you. FCPS should try to provide the best education for each student subject to budgetary constraints. I am so sick of the racists on both sides of this issue.

It is a sure sign of outside enrichment. I have a profoundly gifted child. Even profoundly gifted kids do not learn above grade level math without outside enrichment.

This is not true. Kids are sometimes accelerated within FCPS in the early grades through their own readiness and exploration, no enrichment at play.

My mom taught me from books she'd used as a kid. It eventually let to me taking Calc in 10th grade. Today, I practice with my daughter using problems I've downloaded for free off the Internet. Either way, I'm sure its not what people have in mind when they complain about "outside enrichment."

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Anonymous wrote:[

Uh, no. Just no. FCPS needs to stop rewarding radical acceleration like this. The ELL and FARM students who are academic stars and want STEM need to be allowed into TJ.

Your accelerated kid does not need TJ.

I totally get why every parent who went this route is upset now. It was the sure way into TJ. Now it’s not.

To be clear math acceleration isn’t terrible. That’s up to the parent. It’s just a clear sign the kid is getting outside enrichment in some form that isn’t a possibility to all FCPS students.

The only problem with your argument is that it is not a sure sign of outside enrichment.
Why can't people get into their thick skulls that TJ admissions is not designed to hose over FARMs students? Similarly, admission of unqualified student won't help anyone. When it come to high school admissions, it is already too late. Family values may be more important than education resources. Also, prepping can help testing but won't necessarily adequately prepare a student. Asians are not intellectually superior but may have some good values when it comes to education.
As far as some students deserving the opportunities provided by TJ and others not, screw you. FCPS should try to provide the best education for each student subject to budgetary constraints. I am so sick of the racists on both sides of this issue.

It is a sure sign of outside enrichment. I have a profoundly gifted child. Even profoundly gifted kids do not learn above grade level math without outside enrichment.

This is not true. Kids are sometimes accelerated within FCPS in the early grades through their own readiness and exploration, no enrichment at play.

Yes. After they’ve been taught at home or tutored. They have to learn it somehow.

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Uh, no. Just no. FCPS needs to stop rewarding radical acceleration like this. The ELL and FARM students who are academic stars and want STEM need to be allowed into TJ.

Your accelerated kid does not need TJ.

I totally get why every parent who went this route is upset now. It was the sure way into TJ. Now it’s not.

To be clear math acceleration isn’t terrible. That’s up to the parent. It’s just a clear sign the kid is getting outside enrichment in some form that isn’t a possibility to all FCPS students.

The only problem with your argument is that it is not a sure sign of outside enrichment.
Why can't people get into their thick skulls that TJ admissions is not designed to hose over FARMs students? Similarly, admission of unqualified student won't help anyone. When it come to high school admissions, it is already too late. Family values may be more important than education resources. Also, prepping can help testing but won't necessarily adequately prepare a student. Asians are not intellectually superior but may have some good values when it comes to education.
As far as some students deserving the opportunities provided by TJ and others not, screw you. FCPS should try to provide the best education for each student subject to budgetary constraints. I am so sick of the racists on both sides of this issue.

It is a sure sign of outside enrichment. I have a profoundly gifted child. Even profoundly gifted kids do not learn above grade level math without outside enrichment.

This is not true. Kids are sometimes accelerated within FCPS in the early grades through their own readiness and exploration, no enrichment at play.

My mom taught me from books she'd used as a kid. It eventually let to me taking Calc in 10th grade. Today, I practice with my daughter using problems I've downloaded for free off the Internet. Either way, I'm sure its not what people have in mind when they complain about "outside enrichment."

No. That is exactly what I have in mind.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm genuinely sorry to read these bitter posts. I know it's hard to be denied admission after having spent a fortune on prep.

If you have the money to push an agenda but don't have the brains to get the smart kids to applaud you for it, what better petty solution than to make being smart look like overprivileged villainy?

Or to make average appear smart by taking lots of prep as the evidence suggests when roughly a third of the entering class attended Curie.

Curie? I didn't know this fact. If you believe Curie did help those kids, why don't you send your kid there? Because you are too poor or you want to spend money on yourself not on your kids? Asian parents values education. They are not privileged at all. All of those kids who got in because of their talent and hard work. If you are underprepared, don't blame on other people for over preparing. If your kid is lazy, don't blame other kids for working hard.

Do you not realize how racist you sound?

Do you know the definition of racist?? They're asking questions and making statements. You probably think everything is racist

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Anonymous wrote:I'm genuinely sorry to read these bitter posts. I know it's hard to be denied admission after having spent a fortune on prep.

If you have the money to push an agenda but don't have the brains to get the smart kids to applaud you for it, what better petty solution than to make being smart look like overprivileged villainy?

Or to make average appear smart by taking lots of prep as the evidence suggests when roughly a third of the entering class attended Curie.

Or to shill for a racist agenda which looks pretty on the surface, because it's too hard to believe that smart people legitimately know how to solve tough problems. "As the evidence suggests" is sometimes sadly just something someone will say to feel self-important.

And rich people know how to game a system by making their average kid appear smarter than they are by taking prep classes. This results in an average kid who is prepped ending up with a magnet seat over a kid who is genuinely gifted but lacked the same educational opportunities the wealthy kids' families provided. This is the start of a cycle that lends itself to the toxic environment which is TJ today.

Don't blame parents for over-prepping their kids if yours is under prepped. Its embarrassing. And how does it make them appear smarter tf?? They learn from these classes. Families have worked hard to make sure they make enough money to send their kids to these classes for a good education.

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Anonymous wrote:Curie had more kids admitted in the class of 2025 than any previous year!!! They had an open house yesterday for the summer session. I am shocked!

Why shocked?

wasn't the purpose to eliminate the prep centers? they seem to do even better in this new system

The only thing that has any chance of reducing highly prepped kids is teacher recommendations. Most prepped kids will have a perfect GPA. Most prepped kid can ace any standardized test. Most prepped kids have been coached on how to write a wonderful essay. The only potential weakness for highly prepped kids is that the teachers might be able to tell the difference between the truly brilliant kids and the kids who are hard workers who pre-learned the material, but aren't necessarily that brilliant.

But teacher recommendations are apparently racist, so they eliminated those as well.

They aren't objective and are often inconsistent. I once had a teacher who disliked kids who wore certain kinds of shoes seriously. Let's stick to objective measures.

Let's stick to a holistic review.

You mean soft racial and SES quotas? Let's not.

As you know racial quotas are against the law, admission decisions are race-blind. Please stop trying to mislead people with this nonsense. I get it you liked the old system because you could buy admission. It kept the poors out etc.

You're pathetic

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Anonymous wrote:Curie had more kids admitted in the class of 2025 than any previous year!!! They had an open house yesterday for the summer session. I am shocked!

Why shocked?

wasn't the purpose to eliminate the prep centers? they seem to do even better in this new system

The only thing that has any chance of reducing highly prepped kids is teacher recommendations. Most prepped kids will have a perfect GPA. Most prepped kid can ace any standardized test. Most prepped kids have been coached on how to write a wonderful essay. The only potential weakness for highly prepped kids is that the teachers might be able to tell the difference between the truly brilliant kids and the kids who are hard workers who pre-learned the material, but aren't necessarily that brilliant.

But teacher recommendations are apparently racist, so they eliminated those as well.

They aren't objective and are often inconsistent. I once had a teacher who disliked kids who wore certain kinds of shoes seriously. Let's stick to objective measures.

Let's stick to a holistic review.

You mean soft racial and SES quotas? Let's not.

As you know racial quotas are against the law, admission decisions are race-blind. Please stop trying to mislead people with this nonsense. I get it you liked the old system because you could buy admission. It kept the poors out etc.

You're pathetic

The ignorance and hate is truly astounding. TJ parents and students who supported the racist purge, you'll remember and feel sorry in a few years. I am from Maryland but feel so sorry seeing a great institution being run down by self serving morons.

The solution is to build another TJ, improve base schools. Not run down an ethnic group because they work hard. Shame!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm genuinely sorry to read these bitter posts. I know it's hard to be denied admission after having spent a fortune on prep.

If you have the money to push an agenda but don't have the brains to get the smart kids to applaud you for it, what better petty solution than to make being smart look like overprivileged villainy?

Or to make average appear smart by taking lots of prep as the evidence suggests when roughly a third of the entering class attended Curie.

Or to shill for a racist agenda which looks pretty on the surface, because it's too hard to believe that smart people legitimately know how to solve tough problems. "As the evidence suggests" is sometimes sadly just something someone will say to feel self-important.

And rich people know how to game a system by making their average kid appear smarter than they are by taking prep classes. This results in an average kid who is prepped ending up with a magnet seat over a kid who is genuinely gifted but lacked the same educational opportunities the wealthy kids' families provided. This is the start of a cycle that lends itself to the toxic environment which is TJ today.

Don't blame parents for over-prepping their kids if yours is under prepped. Its embarrassing. And how does it make them appear smarter tf?? They learn from these classes. Families have worked hard to make sure they make enough money to send their kids to these classes for a good education.

And some families cannot do this.

I think this is just finally being realized. The kids who look smart in class aren’t smart because of what happens in school. They are smart because what happens extracurricularly. But is it fair to hold all kids to that standard? Or should they be held to the curricular standard?