APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Above is one of the reasons why I am so disgusted with the Key teacher. She should know better.

It is disgusting. Unfortunately rather then being called out on her poor behavior- she is getting accolades from former Key administrators with them talking about how proud they are of her.
The Key folks have entirely lost all sense of perspective- they view this as an existential threat and our treating it as such. THey don't view any tactic as beneath them- whether its manipulating the low income folk they are purportedly arguing for- altering objective facts, etc.
Here is the real threat- they have not managed to convince their low income Hispanic community that immersion is 'worth it'. They are not interested in actual solutions to hypothetical problems- e.g. busing kids to extended day at Key- because they deeply fear that if given the choice between staying at the Key neighborhood building, vs going somewhere else- many of those families are going to choose Key neighborhood. Not because they can't make going to the ATS site with accommodations work -because they don't want to- they just don't care that much about attending an immersion school. The more 'friendly' the Key neighborhood school is to them (e.g. bilingual office workers etc.) the less likely those families are to follow immersion. So the Key boosters (beyond those who just personally don't want to move) are desperate to block the move and not think about solutions.
Many of them think that the low-income hispanic community is better off in immersion (and full disclosure- I agree with them). But I also think they have freedom of choice- and their choices need to be respected.

It doesn’t help when Key boosters use language like “catastrophic” to describe the effect of the move on Key families. Meanwhile, they seem unwilling to acknowledge the fact that there are Spanish speaking students who opted out of Key and are fine being bused elsewhere.

It reminds me of the famous video footage of the weatherman who looks like he can barely stand in hurricane winds while there are a couple of people casually strolling along behind him. It’s all for show.

Whose show? Who cares that much about his and why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't even with the Anjy guy. Someone pointed out an error in when ATS starts (and I'm not sure that it even matters because Key could probably keep it's start time if necessary for the population) and he's equating 35 minutes to an hour. Dude, let that argument go.

I want to be supportive of the minority population of Key, but those loud voices make it harder and harder.

ah yes-- that great champion of diversity who speak on behalf of low income Key neighborhood residents who lives in the discovery zone.

[Anonymous]

I also wonder if they are regretting opposing the ASFS swap that was originally proposed. Since that school is at least closer to Key.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Above is one of the reasons why I am so disgusted with the Key teacher. She should know better.

It is disgusting. Unfortunately rather then being called out on her poor behavior- she is getting accolades from former Key administrators with them talking about how proud they are of her.
The Key folks have entirely lost all sense of perspective- they view this as an existential threat and our treating it as such. THey don't view any tactic as beneath them- whether its manipulating the low income folk they are purportedly arguing for- altering objective facts, etc.
Here is the real threat- they have not managed to convince their low income Hispanic community that immersion is 'worth it'. They are not interested in actual solutions to hypothetical problems- e.g. busing kids to extended day at Key- because they deeply fear that if given the choice between staying at the Key neighborhood building, vs going somewhere else- many of those families are going to choose Key neighborhood. Not because they can't make going to the ATS site with accommodations work -because they don't want to- they just don't care that much about attending an immersion school. The more 'friendly' the Key neighborhood school is to them (e.g. bilingual office workers etc.) the less likely those families are to follow immersion. So the Key boosters (beyond those who just personally don't want to move) are desperate to block the move and not think about solutions.
Many of them think that the low-income hispanic community is better off in immersion (and full disclosure- I agree with them). But I also think they have freedom of choice- and their choices need to be respected.

It doesn’t help when Key boosters use language like “catastrophic” to describe the effect of the move on Key families. Meanwhile, they seem unwilling to acknowledge the fact that there are Spanish speaking students who opted out of Key and are fine being bused elsewhere.

It reminds me of the famous video footage of the weatherman who looks like he can barely stand in hurricane winds while there are a couple of people casually strolling along behind him. It’s all for show.

Whose show? Who cares that much about his and why?

People who don’t want things to change for them personally and those who have responded to the “racism” dog whistle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I also wonder if they are regretting opposing the ASFS swap that was originally proposed. Since that school is at least closer to Key.

For sure. The Key people played this all wrong. I'm sure many of them are regretting how much they fought the swap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also wonder if they are regretting opposing the ASFS swap that was originally proposed. Since that school is at least closer to Key.

For sure. The Key people played this all wrong. I'm sure many of them are regretting how much they fought the swap.

So many potential catastrophes. How do these people function in life?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Above is one of the reasons why I am so disgusted with the Key teacher. She should know better.

It is disgusting. Unfortunately rather then being called out on her poor behavior- she is getting accolades from former Key administrators with them talking about how proud they are of her.
The Key folks have entirely lost all sense of perspective- they view this as an existential threat and our treating it as such. THey don't view any tactic as beneath them- whether its manipulating the low income folk they are purportedly arguing for- altering objective facts, etc.
Here is the real threat- they have not managed to convince their low income Hispanic community that immersion is 'worth it'. They are not interested in actual solutions to hypothetical problems- e.g. busing kids to extended day at Key- because they deeply fear that if given the choice between staying at the Key neighborhood building, vs going somewhere else- many of those families are going to choose Key neighborhood. Not because they can't make going to the ATS site with accommodations work -because they don't want to- they just don't care that much about attending an immersion school. The more 'friendly' the Key neighborhood school is to them (e.g. bilingual office workers etc.) the less likely those families are to follow immersion. So the Key boosters (beyond those who just personally don't want to move) are desperate to block the move and not think about solutions.
Many of them think that the low-income hispanic community is better off in immersion (and full disclosure- I agree with them). But I also think they have freedom of choice- and their choices need to be respected.

It doesn’t help when Key boosters use language like “catastrophic” to describe the effect of the move on Key families. Meanwhile, they seem unwilling to acknowledge the fact that there are Spanish speaking students who opted out of Key and are fine being bused elsewhere.

It reminds me of the famous video footage of the weatherman who looks like he can barely stand in hurricane winds while there are a couple of people casually strolling along behind him. It’s all for show.

Whose show? Who cares that much about his and why?

People who don’t want things to change for them personally and those who have responded to the “racism” dog whistle.

There was one person who even comments with something like “I haven’t been paying attention but as a white ally what do I need to do? I will walk the picket line with you”


That is what sent me over the edge. Turning this into a race/income thing and ignoring the rest of the facts and data has me really pissed. It’s the definition of dog whistle and they are hoping to catch people who aren’t paying attention.

[Anonymous]

Someone just suggested that a new school could be built where the central library is. Really?? That is outrageous to even consider taking away a public resource like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Above is one of the reasons why I am so disgusted with the Key teacher. She should know better.

It is disgusting. Unfortunately rather then being called out on her poor behavior- she is getting accolades from former Key administrators with them talking about how proud they are of her.
The Key folks have entirely lost all sense of perspective- they view this as an existential threat and our treating it as such. THey don't view any tactic as beneath them- whether its manipulating the low income folk they are purportedly arguing for- altering objective facts, etc.
Here is the real threat- they have not managed to convince their low income Hispanic community that immersion is 'worth it'. They are not interested in actual solutions to hypothetical problems- e.g. busing kids to extended day at Key- because they deeply fear that if given the choice between staying at the Key neighborhood building, vs going somewhere else- many of those families are going to choose Key neighborhood. Not because they can't make going to the ATS site with accommodations work -because they don't want to- they just don't care that much about attending an immersion school. The more 'friendly' the Key neighborhood school is to them (e.g. bilingual office workers etc.) the less likely those families are to follow immersion. So the Key boosters (beyond those who just personally don't want to move) are desperate to block the move and not think about solutions.
Many of them think that the low-income hispanic community is better off in immersion (and full disclosure- I agree with them). But I also think they have freedom of choice- and their choices need to be respected.

It doesn’t help when Key boosters use language like “catastrophic” to describe the effect of the move on Key families. Meanwhile, they seem unwilling to acknowledge the fact that there are Spanish speaking students who opted out of Key and are fine being bused elsewhere.

It reminds me of the famous video footage of the weatherman who looks like he can barely stand in hurricane winds while there are a couple of people casually strolling along behind him. It’s all for show.

Whose show? Who cares that much about his and why?

People who don’t want things to change for them personally and those who have responded to the “racism” dog whistle.

I get that there might be some queasiness/concern about the county potentially cutting an immersion school. But IF that happens, then it’ll be be very far off. ATS is a perfectly fine site. A very good one, even. Plus, the move benefits the greater good. Please, Key people: it. Will. Be. O.K.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone just suggested that a new school could be built where the central library is. Really?? That is outrageous to even consider taking away a public resource like that.

I agree, but it was listed in the letter from the county manager. Looks like just an APS owned portion of Quincy Park.

https://arlingtonva.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2019/12/County_Manager_APS_Letter_2019-11-18.pdf

[Anonymous]

I"m pretty sure this is the 'offer' they are talking about-
https://arlingtonva.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2019/12/County_Manager_APS_Letter_2019-11-18.pdf

I wouldn't consider that the county manager offering up those sites- rather it is the county manager identifying county owned sites that are at least an acre large. The letter specifically notes that the sites 'presents challenges and tradeoffs that must be considered carefully.'

[Anonymous]

Please get out to school board meetings and open office hours and let your voices be heard. The School Board needs to hear from the rest of Arlington that they are ok with option 1 otherwise the loud voices of McKinley/ATS/Key win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Above is one of the reasons why I am so disgusted with the Key teacher. She should know better.

It is disgusting. Unfortunately rather then being called out on her poor behavior- she is getting accolades from former Key administrators with them talking about how proud they are of her.
The Key folks have entirely lost all sense of perspective- they view this as an existential threat and our treating it as such. THey don't view any tactic as beneath them- whether its manipulating the low income folk they are purportedly arguing for- altering objective facts, etc.
Here is the real threat- they have not managed to convince their low income Hispanic community that immersion is 'worth it'. They are not interested in actual solutions to hypothetical problems- e.g. busing kids to extended day at Key- because they deeply fear that if given the choice between staying at the Key neighborhood building, vs going somewhere else- many of those families are going to choose Key neighborhood. Not because they can't make going to the ATS site with accommodations work -because they don't want to- they just don't care that much about attending an immersion school. The more 'friendly' the Key neighborhood school is to them (e.g. bilingual office workers etc.) the less likely those families are to follow immersion. So the Key boosters (beyond those who just personally don't want to move) are desperate to block the move and not think about solutions.
Many of them think that the low-income hispanic community is better off in immersion (and full disclosure- I agree with them). But I also think they have freedom of choice- and their choices need to be respected.

It doesn’t help when Key boosters use language like “catastrophic” to describe the effect of the move on Key families. Meanwhile, they seem unwilling to acknowledge the fact that there are Spanish speaking students who opted out of Key and are fine being bused elsewhere.

It reminds me of the famous video footage of the weatherman who looks like he can barely stand in hurricane winds while there are a couple of people casually strolling along behind him. It’s all for show.[/quote]

Couldn't resist - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tocuyJ1Fu7U

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone just suggested that a new school could be built where the central library is. Really?? That is outrageous to even consider taking away a public resource like that.

There’s actually a lot of land there that could probably be designed to keep the library and build a school. So I could see that as a possibility

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone just suggested that a new school could be built where the central library is. Really?? That is outrageous to even consider taking away a public resource like that.

There’s actually a lot of land there that could probably be designed to keep the library and build a school. So I could see that as a possibility

It's half a mile from the ASFS campus. Not easy to draw a boundary that way with two neighborhood schools so close (like Reed/McK).