the Key/ASFS building switch...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread really needs to end already. People keep talking around each other and saying the same thing over and over again. Yes, new asfs may contain parts of current taylor. But wait, Key has a bigger building and can accommodate more trailers. Immersion may have to become a smaller program. But wait, maybe they’ll decide to move it to Carlin springs and it can be huge.
Rosslyn is going to get sent to Taylor three years from now when this happens. Oh but wait, we can send Courthouse/Clarendon instead to long branch! We hate Cherrydale and the school administration because they value the building over the kids! Oh but wait they are just acting this way because they have spent all this effort creating a science program! Oh but wait again their science program sucks, it needs to be modernized and rethought!
I can’t deal with two more years of these threads!

Key can not accommodate more trailers. It has more space, but cafeteria size is the limiting factor on trailers. ASFS has a recommended maximum of 12 trailers and has at 6. Key has a recommended maximum of 4 trailers, which is how many it currently has.

Yes, but key has a larger maximum number of trailers it can accommodate period.

You are correct that there is more space at Key to put trailers. But that is meaningless as APS will not put more than 4 trailers there.
If they exceed the recommended maximum number of trailers then they have to have more than 3 lunch periods. APS has been clear that they they do not want that so they are not going to exceed the recommended maximum number of trailers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread really needs to end already. People keep talking around each other and saying the same thing over and over again. Yes, new asfs may contain parts of current taylor. But wait, Key has a bigger building and can accommodate more trailers. Immersion may have to become a smaller program. But wait, maybe they’ll decide to move it to Carlin springs and it can be huge.
Rosslyn is going to get sent to Taylor three years from now when this happens. Oh but wait, we can send Courthouse/Clarendon instead to long branch! We hate Cherrydale and the school administration because they value the building over the kids! Oh but wait they are just acting this way because they have spent all this effort creating a science program! Oh but wait again their science program sucks, it needs to be modernized and rethought!
I can’t deal with two more years of these threads!

Key can not accommodate more trailers. It has more space, but cafeteria size is the limiting factor on trailers. ASFS has a recommended maximum of 12 trailers and has at 6. Key has a recommended maximum of 4 trailers, which is how many it currently has.

Yes, but key has a larger maximum number of trailers it can accommodate period.

You are correct that there is more space at Key to put trailers. But that is meaningless as APS will not put more than 4 trailers there.
If they exceed the recommended maximum number of trailers then they have to have more than 3 lunch periods. APS has been clear that they they do not want that so they are not going to exceed the recommended maximum number of trailers.

Why can’t they put a lunch trailer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread really needs to end already. People keep talking around each other and saying the same thing over and over again. Yes, new asfs may contain parts of current taylor. But wait, Key has a bigger building and can accommodate more trailers. Immersion may have to become a smaller program. But wait, maybe they’ll decide to move it to Carlin springs and it can be huge.
Rosslyn is going to get sent to Taylor three years from now when this happens. Oh but wait, we can send Courthouse/Clarendon instead to long branch! We hate Cherrydale and the school administration because they value the building over the kids! Oh but wait they are just acting this way because they have spent all this effort creating a science program! Oh but wait again their science program sucks, it needs to be modernized and rethought!
I can’t deal with two more years of these threads!

Key can not accommodate more trailers. It has more space, but cafeteria size is the limiting factor on trailers. ASFS has a recommended maximum of 12 trailers and has at 6. Key has a recommended maximum of 4 trailers, which is how many it currently has.

Yes, but key has a larger maximum number of trailers it can accommodate period.

You are correct that there is more space at Key to put trailers. But that is meaningless as APS will not put more than 4 trailers there.
If they exceed the recommended maximum number of trailers then they have to have more than 3 lunch periods. APS has been clear that they they do not want that so they are not going to exceed the recommended maximum number of trailers.

Why can’t they put a lunch trailer?

You clearly must not have a child in APS. Kids are only allotted 20 minutes for lunch, including getting into the cafeteria, standing in line, getting food, paying for the food, then going to sit down, etc. Unless that trailer comes with an attached kitchen, having kids walk outside (in rain, cold, etc.) after they get their lunch will burn up extra minutes they don't have. Even on days my kids pack, they barely have time to eat. Add in a walk to a trailer, that means they aren't eating at all.

[Anonymous]

Not true. They could easily do a lunch trailer. Kids in trailers are already walking inside to the cafeteria. They can just walk to the lunch trailer. And my kid, in a trailer, who walks to the cafeteria for lunch, gets 1/2 hour for lunch. Don't assume every school in Arlington works like yours does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not true. They could easily do a lunch trailer. Kids in trailers are already walking inside to the cafeteria. They can just walk to the lunch trailer. And my kid, in a trailer, who walks to the cafeteria for lunch, gets 1/2 hour for lunch. Don't assume every school in Arlington works like yours does.

+1. Same for our kid, in a trailer for classes, gets 1/2 hour for lunch (increased this year from last year's 20 minutes).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not true. They could easily do a lunch trailer. Kids in trailers are already walking inside to the cafeteria. They can just walk to the lunch trailer. And my kid, in a trailer, who walks to the cafeteria for lunch, gets 1/2 hour for lunch. Don't assume every school in Arlington works like yours does.

Can they put a kitchen in a trailer? Or not serve any hot food?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not true. They could easily do a lunch trailer. Kids in trailers are already walking inside to the cafeteria. They can just walk to the lunch trailer. And my kid, in a trailer, who walks to the cafeteria for lunch, gets 1/2 hour for lunch. Don't assume every school in Arlington works like yours does.

Can they put a kitchen in a trailer? Or not serve any hot food?

Yes. Hate the swap for whatever reason you want, but key is a larger building with a larger capacity to grow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not true. They could easily do a lunch trailer. Kids in trailers are already walking inside to the cafeteria. They can just walk to the lunch trailer. And my kid, in a trailer, who walks to the cafeteria for lunch, gets 1/2 hour for lunch. Don't assume every school in Arlington works like yours does.

Can they put a kitchen in a trailer? Or not serve any hot food?

Yes. Hate the swap for whatever reason you want, but key is a larger building with a larger capacity to grow.

Dear uninformed,
Key has a smaller cafeteria and therefore building size is meaningless. There is no money to make capital improvements to fix this situation either so don't go all sideways on that too. I'm not affected either way but I look forward to you getting what you asked for - a crowded bare bones crappy program that has takes your child's entire elementary time to rebuild so you reap no benefits. Good for you - go swap!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not true. They could easily do a lunch trailer. Kids in trailers are already walking inside to the cafeteria. They can just walk to the lunch trailer. And my kid, in a trailer, who walks to the cafeteria for lunch, gets 1/2 hour for lunch. Don't assume every school in Arlington works like yours does.

Can they put a kitchen in a trailer? Or not serve any hot food?

Yes. Hate the swap for whatever reason you want, but key is a larger building with a larger capacity to grow.

Dear uninformed,
Key has a smaller cafeteria and therefore building size is meaningless. There is no money to make capital improvements to fix this situation either so don't go all sideways on that too. I'm not affected either way but I look forward to you getting what you asked for - a crowded bare bones crappy program that has takes your child's entire elementary time to rebuild so you reap no benefits. Good for you - go swap!

Second that. You can bet your a$$ I will not support wasting my tax dollars on this misadventure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not true. They could easily do a lunch trailer. Kids in trailers are already walking inside to the cafeteria. They can just walk to the lunch trailer. And my kid, in a trailer, who walks to the cafeteria for lunch, gets 1/2 hour for lunch. Don't assume every school in Arlington works like yours does.

Can they put a kitchen in a trailer? Or not serve any hot food?

Yes. Hate the swap for whatever reason you want, but key is a larger building with a larger capacity to grow.

Dear uninformed,
Key has a smaller cafeteria and therefore building size is meaningless. There is no money to make capital improvements to fix this situation either so don't go all sideways on that too. I'm not affected either way but I look forward to you getting what you asked for - a crowded bare bones crappy program that has takes your child's entire elementary time to rebuild so you reap no benefits. Good for you - go swap!

Second that. You can bet your a$$ I will not support wasting my tax dollars on this misadventure.

+1000 These threads are going to be amazing in a few years when ASFS shows up and realizes what a dump the place is and that their kids start eating lunch at 10 a.m. It will take them years to rebuild what they have now-- just in time for their kids to go to middle school. I'm sure ASFS will be great again--- in about a decade but bye bye top rankings for awhile!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not true. They could easily do a lunch trailer. Kids in trailers are already walking inside to the cafeteria. They can just walk to the lunch trailer. And my kid, in a trailer, who walks to the cafeteria for lunch, gets 1/2 hour for lunch. Don't assume every school in Arlington works like yours does.

Can they put a kitchen in a trailer? Or not serve any hot food?

Yes. Hate the swap for whatever reason you want, but key is a larger building with a larger capacity to grow.

Dear uninformed,
Key has a smaller cafeteria and therefore building size is meaningless. There is no money to make capital improvements to fix this situation either so don't go all sideways on that too. I'm not affected either way but I look forward to you getting what you asked for - a crowded bare bones crappy program that has takes your child's entire elementary time to rebuild so you reap no benefits. Good for you - go swap!

Second that. You can bet your a$$ I will not support wasting my tax dollars on this misadventure.

+1000 These threads are going to be amazing in a few years when ASFS shows up and realizes what a dump the place is and that their kids start eating lunch at 10 a.m. It will take them years to rebuild what they have now-- just in time for their kids to go to middle school. I'm sure ASFS will be great again--- in about a decade but bye bye top rankings for awhile!

This swap is just a part of Dr. Murphy's plan to kill off both schools programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not true. They could easily do a lunch trailer. Kids in trailers are already walking inside to the cafeteria. They can just walk to the lunch trailer. And my kid, in a trailer, who walks to the cafeteria for lunch, gets 1/2 hour for lunch. Don't assume every school in Arlington works like yours does.

Can they put a kitchen in a trailer? Or not serve any hot food?

Yes. Hate the swap for whatever reason you want, but key is a larger building with a larger capacity to grow.

Dear uninformed,
Key has a smaller cafeteria and therefore building size is meaningless. There is no money to make capital improvements to fix this situation either so don't go all sideways on that too. I'm not affected either way but I look forward to you getting what you asked for - a crowded bare bones crappy program that has takes your child's entire elementary time to rebuild so you reap no benefits. Good for you - go swap!

Second that. You can bet your a$$ I will not support wasting my tax dollars on this misadventure.

+1000 These threads are going to be amazing in a few years when ASFS shows up and realizes what a dump the place is and that their kids start eating lunch at 10 a.m. It will take them years to rebuild what they have now-- just in time for their kids to go to middle school. I'm sure ASFS will be great again--- in about a decade but bye bye top rankings for awhile!

Well duh. Almost zero ASFS families want the swap; they just don’t want the new boundaries to tear the school apart and bus Rosslyn across the county

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not true. They could easily do a lunch trailer. Kids in trailers are already walking inside to the cafeteria. They can just walk to the lunch trailer. And my kid, in a trailer, who walks to the cafeteria for lunch, gets 1/2 hour for lunch. Don't assume every school in Arlington works like yours does.

Can they put a kitchen in a trailer? Or not serve any hot food?

Yes. Hate the swap for whatever reason you want, but key is a larger building with a larger capacity to grow.

Dear uninformed,
Key has a smaller cafeteria and therefore building size is meaningless. There is no money to make capital improvements to fix this situation either so don't go all sideways on that too. I'm not affected either way but I look forward to you getting what you asked for - a crowded bare bones crappy program that has takes your child's entire elementary time to rebuild so you reap no benefits. Good for you - go swap!

Second that. You can bet your a$$ I will not support wasting my tax dollars on this misadventure.

+1000 These threads are going to be amazing in a few years when ASFS shows up and realizes what a dump the place is and that their kids start eating lunch at 10 a.m. It will take them years to rebuild what they have now-- just in time for their kids to go to middle school. I'm sure ASFS will be great again--- in about a decade but bye bye top rankings for awhile!

Well duh. Almost zero ASFS families want the swap; they just don’t want the new boundaries to tear the school apart and bus Rosslyn across the county

The swap is the only way for that to happen, so you choose. Keep your building or keep your community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not true. They could easily do a lunch trailer. Kids in trailers are already walking inside to the cafeteria. They can just walk to the lunch trailer. And my kid, in a trailer, who walks to the cafeteria for lunch, gets 1/2 hour for lunch. Don't assume every school in Arlington works like yours does.

Can they put a kitchen in a trailer? Or not serve any hot food?

Yes. Hate the swap for whatever reason you want, but key is a larger building with a larger capacity to grow.

Dear uninformed,
Key has a smaller cafeteria and therefore building size is meaningless. There is no money to make capital improvements to fix this situation either so don't go all sideways on that too. I'm not affected either way but I look forward to you getting what you asked for - a crowded bare bones crappy program that has takes your child's entire elementary time to rebuild so you reap no benefits. Good for you - go swap!

Second that. You can bet your a$$ I will not support wasting my tax dollars on this misadventure.

+1000 These threads are going to be amazing in a few years when ASFS shows up and realizes what a dump the place is and that their kids start eating lunch at 10 a.m. It will take them years to rebuild what they have now-- just in time for their kids to go to middle school. I'm sure ASFS will be great again--- in about a decade but bye bye top rankings for awhile!

Well duh. Almost zero ASFS families want the swap; they just don’t want the new boundaries to tear the school apart and bus Rosslyn across the county

The swap is the only way for that to happen, so you choose. Keep your building or keep your community.

Unless the enrollment numbers don’t jump up. Then everyone can stay put.

[Anonymous]

Why should the rest of the county bear the cost of a swap just to allow that one community to avoid the consequences of the boundary changes that are going to impact every school community in the area? Why should resources be devoted to giving preferential treatment to this one school community that already has a history of having better facilities and opportunities than are made available at other Arlington elementary schools? I’ve heard people refer to it as a public-private.