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Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked parents were able to get the Arlington school board to vote against giving the most extreme accomodation in the name of inclusivity. I mean, you all still had to remain anonymous, but that's some serious progress.

The cost of closing school was concrete and high - cancelling a fully paid/nonrefundable field trip for hundreds of middle school kids, disrupting graduation scheduling for special needs kids, cancelling dances, possibly missing testing, causing childcare issues for already stressed feds, etc. Meanwhile, keeping school open just means some students and staff take an excused absence. It’s really not a contest for someone looking at it rationally. The troubling thing is that APS staff didn’t stop to think about the collateral impacts. At all. It was clear they did not even consider that their actions have downstream impacts.

This. This should have been a no brainer vote and Duran shouldn't have even suggested it. They are slaves to their own look at me extreme progressive tunnel vision and can't see past their egos to make rational decisions. This is the same issue as the mother raising the issue of a pool patron openly flashing a penis in the women's pool locker room in front of her kids and a Board member (who abstained last night from this vote) blowing her off. It is more important to some of them to a) protect certain people's rights even when there is clear evidence it is harming others and b) have it be abundantly clear to everyone in their echo chamber this is what they are doing.

It's nauseating. And before people harass me, no I'm not MAGA, anti-trans, or a Republican. I'm anti-showing your penis in the women's locker room and anti-canceling events that impact hundreds of kids when people who want to observe a religious holiday can simply take the day off or stay home.

But you’re happy enough to push the RWNJ talking points…

Dp. If not wanting my dd exposed to a penis in the women’s locker room makes me a RWNJ, then fine, I’m a RWNJ.

You can address the locker room issue without turning it into a transgender issue.

No you can’t, when the policy is that the man was allowed to be there because he said he was transgender, and there are policies in place that support his presence because of that claim. https://wjla.com/news/local/virginia-school-policy-arlington-county-public-schools-acps-aps-parents-transgender-locker-room-bathroom-policy-safety-sex-offender-richard-kenneth-cox-washington-liberty-high-school-board-meeting-public-comments-parents-lgbtqia-lgbtq-rights

this again? how did this turn from APS holiday back to a man in the locker room?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked parents were able to get the Arlington school board to vote against giving the most extreme accomodation in the name of inclusivity. I mean, you all still had to remain anonymous, but that's some serious progress.

The cost of closing school was concrete and high - cancelling a fully paid/nonrefundable field trip for hundreds of middle school kids, disrupting graduation scheduling for special needs kids, cancelling dances, possibly missing testing, causing childcare issues for already stressed feds, etc. Meanwhile, keeping school open just means some students and staff take an excused absence. It’s really not a contest for someone looking at it rationally. The troubling thing is that APS staff didn’t stop to think about the collateral impacts. At all. It was clear they did not even consider that their actions have downstream impacts.

This. This should have been a no brainer vote and Duran shouldn't have even suggested it. They are slaves to their own look at me extreme progressive tunnel vision and can't see past their egos to make rational decisions. This is the same issue as the mother raising the issue of a pool patron openly flashing a penis in the women's pool locker room in front of her kids and a Board member (who abstained last night from this vote) blowing her off. It is more important to some of them to a) protect certain people's rights even when there is clear evidence it is harming others and b) have it be abundantly clear to everyone in their echo chamber this is what they are doing.

It's nauseating. And before people harass me, no I'm not MAGA, anti-trans, or a Republican. I'm anti-showing your penis in the women's locker room and anti-canceling events that impact hundreds of kids when people who want to observe a religious holiday can simply take the day off or stay home.

But you’re happy enough to push the RWNJ talking points…

Dp. If not wanting my dd exposed to a penis in the women’s locker room makes me a RWNJ, then fine, I’m a RWNJ.

You can address the locker room issue without turning it into a transgender issue.

No you can’t, when the policy is that the man was allowed to be there because he said he was transgender, and there are policies in place that support his presence because of that claim. https://wjla.com/news/local/virginia-school-policy-arlington-county-public-schools-acps-aps-parents-transgender-locker-room-bathroom-policy-safety-sex-offender-richard-kenneth-cox-washington-liberty-high-school-board-meeting-public-comments-parents-lgbtqia-lgbtq-rights

this again? how did this turn from APS holiday back to a man in the locker room?

It's off-topic but does demonstrate how the school board's goal to seem as progressive as possible has unintended consequences that cause harm to the community.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I thought the Staff answers to the board questions and the Staff presentations were really disingenuous. I mean saying 'shriver principal said no problem to move graduation.' Well no problem in what sense? Sure you can find space for graduation to be on Thursday instead of Friday, but what about family members that are flying in Thursday night for the Friday graduation? Or other arrangements the families have made? Similarly the 'we will work to reschedule cancelled activities.' But you know you can't reschedule the Hershey music festival. You know the kids are excited for it and paid out of pocket.
This debacle, and the bus driver saying he wasn't allowed a day off for his orthodox holiday (I didn't even think he was asking for school to be closed, just that he personally be allowed to take the day off) should really have them rethinking this policy. But if anything they doubled down- saying they want to block multiple days for lunar holidays. Its crazytown.

To be fair, there are only 13 students graduating from the Shriver program. This isn't a big program. There's maybe 30 kids total.

I think the Board made the right decision though, but just want to put things into perspective.

But it is important and likely the last graduation they will ever have. Even the suggestion of making special education students move their graduation for a voluntary religious observance is pretty gross to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked parents were able to get the Arlington school board to vote against giving the most extreme accomodation in the name of inclusivity. I mean, you all still had to remain anonymous, but that's some serious progress.

The cost of closing school was concrete and high - cancelling a fully paid/nonrefundable field trip for hundreds of middle school kids, disrupting graduation scheduling for special needs kids, cancelling dances, possibly missing testing, causing childcare issues for already stressed feds, etc. Meanwhile, keeping school open just means some students and staff take an excused absence. It’s really not a contest for someone looking at it rationally. The troubling thing is that APS staff didn’t stop to think about the collateral impacts. At all. It was clear they did not even consider that their actions have downstream impacts.

This. This should have been a no brainer vote and Duran shouldn't have even suggested it. They are slaves to their own look at me extreme progressive tunnel vision and can't see past their egos to make rational decisions. This is the same issue as the mother raising the issue of a pool patron openly flashing a penis in the women's pool locker room in front of her kids and a Board member (who abstained last night from this vote) blowing her off. It is more important to some of them to a) protect certain people's rights even when there is clear evidence it is harming others and b) have it be abundantly clear to everyone in their echo chamber this is what they are doing.

It's nauseating. And before people harass me, no I'm not MAGA, anti-trans, or a Republican. I'm anti-showing your penis in the women's locker room and anti-canceling events that impact hundreds of kids when people who want to observe a religious holiday can simply take the day off or stay home.

But you’re happy enough to push the RWNJ talking points…

Dp. If not wanting my dd exposed to a penis in the women’s locker room makes me a RWNJ, then fine, I’m a RWNJ.

You can address the locker room issue without turning it into a transgender issue.

How so?

The point of separate locker rooms is that men and boys can be in varied states of undress without the presence of women/girls, and girls/women can be in varied states of undress without the presence of men/boys. Sometimes people are naked for a second or even a minute in the locker room. You and I may keep a towel or undies on, but not everyone does, and we would look ridiculous complaining to staff if another woman went topless from her locker to the shower or sat on a bench naked to put on a swimsuit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked parents were able to get the Arlington school board to vote against giving the most extreme accomodation in the name of inclusivity. I mean, you all still had to remain anonymous, but that's some serious progress.

The cost of closing school was concrete and high - cancelling a fully paid/nonrefundable field trip for hundreds of middle school kids, disrupting graduation scheduling for special needs kids, cancelling dances, possibly missing testing, causing childcare issues for already stressed feds, etc. Meanwhile, keeping school open just means some students and staff take an excused absence. It’s really not a contest for someone looking at it rationally. The troubling thing is that APS staff didn’t stop to think about the collateral impacts. At all. It was clear they did not even consider that their actions have downstream impacts.

This. This should have been a no brainer vote and Duran shouldn't have even suggested it. They are slaves to their own look at me extreme progressive tunnel vision and can't see past their egos to make rational decisions. This is the same issue as the mother raising the issue of a pool patron openly flashing a penis in the women's pool locker room in front of her kids and a Board member (who abstained last night from this vote) blowing her off. It is more important to some of them to a) protect certain people's rights even when there is clear evidence it is harming others and b) have it be abundantly clear to everyone in their echo chamber this is what they are doing.

It's nauseating. And before people harass me, no I'm not MAGA, anti-trans, or a Republican. I'm anti-showing your penis in the women's locker room and anti-canceling events that impact hundreds of kids when people who want to observe a religious holiday can simply take the day off or stay home.

But you’re happy enough to push the RWNJ talking points…

Dp. If not wanting my dd exposed to a penis in the women’s locker room makes me a RWNJ, then fine, I’m a RWNJ.

You can address the locker room issue without turning it into a transgender issue.

How so?

The point of separate locker rooms is that men and boys can be in varied states of undress without the presence of women/girls, and girls/women can be in varied states of undress without the presence of men/boys. Sometimes people are naked for a second or even a minute in the locker room. You and I may keep a towel or undies on, but not everyone does, and we would look ridiculous complaining to staff if another woman went topless from her locker to the shower or sat on a bench naked to put on a swimsuit.

Because the person in question was a sexual predator and NOT transgender. Move the F on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked parents were able to get the Arlington school board to vote against giving the most extreme accomodation in the name of inclusivity. I mean, you all still had to remain anonymous, but that's some serious progress.

The cost of closing school was concrete and high - cancelling a fully paid/nonrefundable field trip for hundreds of middle school kids, disrupting graduation scheduling for special needs kids, cancelling dances, possibly missing testing, causing childcare issues for already stressed feds, etc. Meanwhile, keeping school open just means some students and staff take an excused absence. It’s really not a contest for someone looking at it rationally. The troubling thing is that APS staff didn’t stop to think about the collateral impacts. At all. It was clear they did not even consider that their actions have downstream impacts.

This. This should have been a no brainer vote and Duran shouldn't have even suggested it. They are slaves to their own look at me extreme progressive tunnel vision and can't see past their egos to make rational decisions. This is the same issue as the mother raising the issue of a pool patron openly flashing a penis in the women's pool locker room in front of her kids and a Board member (who abstained last night from this vote) blowing her off. It is more important to some of them to a) protect certain people's rights even when there is clear evidence it is harming others and b) have it be abundantly clear to everyone in their echo chamber this is what they are doing.

It's nauseating. And before people harass me, no I'm not MAGA, anti-trans, or a Republican. I'm anti-showing your penis in the women's locker room and anti-canceling events that impact hundreds of kids when people who want to observe a religious holiday can simply take the day off or stay home.

But you’re happy enough to push the RWNJ talking points…

Dp. If not wanting my dd exposed to a penis in the women’s locker room makes me a RWNJ, then fine, I’m a RWNJ.

You can address the locker room issue without turning it into a transgender issue.

No you can’t, when the policy is that the man was allowed to be there because he said he was transgender, and there are policies in place that support his presence because of that claim. https://wjla.com/news/local/virginia-school-policy-arlington-county-public-schools-acps-aps-parents-transgender-locker-room-bathroom-policy-safety-sex-offender-richard-kenneth-cox-washington-liberty-high-school-board-meeting-public-comments-parents-lgbtqia-lgbtq-rights

this again? how did this turn from APS holiday back to a man in the locker room?

Bigots

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked parents were able to get the Arlington school board to vote against giving the most extreme accomodation in the name of inclusivity. I mean, you all still had to remain anonymous, but that's some serious progress.

The cost of closing school was concrete and high - cancelling a fully paid/nonrefundable field trip for hundreds of middle school kids, disrupting graduation scheduling for special needs kids, cancelling dances, possibly missing testing, causing childcare issues for already stressed feds, etc. Meanwhile, keeping school open just means some students and staff take an excused absence. It’s really not a contest for someone looking at it rationally. The troubling thing is that APS staff didn’t stop to think about the collateral impacts. At all. It was clear they did not even consider that their actions have downstream impacts.

This. This should have been a no brainer vote and Duran shouldn't have even suggested it. They are slaves to their own look at me extreme progressive tunnel vision and can't see past their egos to make rational decisions. This is the same issue as the mother raising the issue of a pool patron openly flashing a penis in the women's pool locker room in front of her kids and a Board member (who abstained last night from this vote) blowing her off. It is more important to some of them to a) protect certain people's rights even when there is clear evidence it is harming others and b) have it be abundantly clear to everyone in their echo chamber this is what they are doing.

It's nauseating. And before people harass me, no I'm not MAGA, anti-trans, or a Republican. I'm anti-showing your penis in the women's locker room and anti-canceling events that impact hundreds of kids when people who want to observe a religious holiday can simply take the day off or stay home.

But you’re happy enough to push the RWNJ talking points…

Dp. If not wanting my dd exposed to a penis in the women’s locker room makes me a RWNJ, then fine, I’m a RWNJ.

You can address the locker room issue without turning it into a transgender issue.

No you can’t, when the policy is that the man was allowed to be there because he said he was transgender, and there are policies in place that support his presence because of that claim. https://wjla.com/news/local/virginia-school-policy-arlington-county-public-schools-acps-aps-parents-transgender-locker-room-bathroom-policy-safety-sex-offender-richard-kenneth-cox-washington-liberty-high-school-board-meeting-public-comments-parents-lgbtqia-lgbtq-rights

No, he wasn’t allowed in either bathroom.

It’s not a transgender issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked parents were able to get the Arlington school board to vote against giving the most extreme accomodation in the name of inclusivity. I mean, you all still had to remain anonymous, but that's some serious progress.

The cost of closing school was concrete and high - cancelling a fully paid/nonrefundable field trip for hundreds of middle school kids, disrupting graduation scheduling for special needs kids, cancelling dances, possibly missing testing, causing childcare issues for already stressed feds, etc. Meanwhile, keeping school open just means some students and staff take an excused absence. It’s really not a contest for someone looking at it rationally. The troubling thing is that APS staff didn’t stop to think about the collateral impacts. At all. It was clear they did not even consider that their actions have downstream impacts.

This. This should have been a no brainer vote and Duran shouldn't have even suggested it. They are slaves to their own look at me extreme progressive tunnel vision and can't see past their egos to make rational decisions. This is the same issue as the mother raising the issue of a pool patron openly flashing a penis in the women's pool locker room in front of her kids and a Board member (who abstained last night from this vote) blowing her off. It is more important to some of them to a) protect certain people's rights even when there is clear evidence it is harming others and b) have it be abundantly clear to everyone in their echo chamber this is what they are doing.

It's nauseating. And before people harass me, no I'm not MAGA, anti-trans, or a Republican. I'm anti-showing your penis in the women's locker room and anti-canceling events that impact hundreds of kids when people who want to observe a religious holiday can simply take the day off or stay home.

But you’re happy enough to push the RWNJ talking points…

Dp. If not wanting my dd exposed to a penis in the women’s locker room makes me a RWNJ, then fine, I’m a RWNJ.

You can address the locker room issue without turning it into a transgender issue.

How so?

The point of separate locker rooms is that men and boys can be in varied states of undress without the presence of women/girls, and girls/women can be in varied states of undress without the presence of men/boys. Sometimes people are naked for a second or even a minute in the locker room. You and I may keep a towel or undies on, but not everyone does, and we would look ridiculous complaining to staff if another woman went topless from her locker to the shower or sat on a bench naked to put on a swimsuit.

If the policy was no open nudity in either locker room then it would be fine to report the weirdo exhibitionist ladies.

Cover it up, Babs. No one wants to see you labia.

[Anonymous]

^your labia

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked parents were able to get the Arlington school board to vote against giving the most extreme accomodation in the name of inclusivity. I mean, you all still had to remain anonymous, but that's some serious progress.

The cost of closing school was concrete and high - cancelling a fully paid/nonrefundable field trip for hundreds of middle school kids, disrupting graduation scheduling for special needs kids, cancelling dances, possibly missing testing, causing childcare issues for already stressed feds, etc. Meanwhile, keeping school open just means some students and staff take an excused absence. It’s really not a contest for someone looking at it rationally. The troubling thing is that APS staff didn’t stop to think about the collateral impacts. At all. It was clear they did not even consider that their actions have downstream impacts.

This. This should have been a no brainer vote and Duran shouldn't have even suggested it. They are slaves to their own look at me extreme progressive tunnel vision and can't see past their egos to make rational decisions. This is the same issue as the mother raising the issue of a pool patron openly flashing a penis in the women's pool locker room in front of her kids and a Board member (who abstained last night from this vote) blowing her off. It is more important to some of them to a) protect certain people's rights even when there is clear evidence it is harming others and b) have it be abundantly clear to everyone in their echo chamber this is what they are doing.

It's nauseating. And before people harass me, no I'm not MAGA, anti-trans, or a Republican. I'm anti-showing your penis in the women's locker room and anti-canceling events that impact hundreds of kids when people who want to observe a religious holiday can simply take the day off or stay home.

But you’re happy enough to push the RWNJ talking points…

Dp. If not wanting my dd exposed to a penis in the women’s locker room makes me a RWNJ, then fine, I’m a RWNJ.

You can address the locker room issue without turning it into a transgender issue.

How so?

The point of separate locker rooms is that men and boys can be in varied states of undress without the presence of women/girls, and girls/women can be in varied states of undress without the presence of men/boys. Sometimes people are naked for a second or even a minute in the locker room. You and I may keep a towel or undies on, but not everyone does, and we would look ridiculous complaining to staff if another woman went topless from her locker to the shower or sat on a bench naked to put on a swimsuit.

Because the person in question was a sexual predator and NOT transgender. Move the F on.

The point that is relevant to this situation is they did not discover he was a sexual predator for far too long because they elevated above common sense and rational thought honoring a transgender policy. Instead of questioning what was going on, they dug in their heels and the situation went on for months.

Use your brains. Don’t be told what to think or too fearful to ask logical questions and point out when things don’t seem right. These people live in fear of being canceled.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked parents were able to get the Arlington school board to vote against giving the most extreme accomodation in the name of inclusivity. I mean, you all still had to remain anonymous, but that's some serious progress.

The cost of closing school was concrete and high - cancelling a fully paid/nonrefundable field trip for hundreds of middle school kids, disrupting graduation scheduling for special needs kids, cancelling dances, possibly missing testing, causing childcare issues for already stressed feds, etc. Meanwhile, keeping school open just means some students and staff take an excused absence. It’s really not a contest for someone looking at it rationally. The troubling thing is that APS staff didn’t stop to think about the collateral impacts. At all. It was clear they did not even consider that their actions have downstream impacts.

This. This should have been a no brainer vote and Duran shouldn't have even suggested it. They are slaves to their own look at me extreme progressive tunnel vision and can't see past their egos to make rational decisions. This is the same issue as the mother raising the issue of a pool patron openly flashing a penis in the women's pool locker room in front of her kids and a Board member (who abstained last night from this vote) blowing her off. It is more important to some of them to a) protect certain people's rights even when there is clear evidence it is harming others and b) have it be abundantly clear to everyone in their echo chamber this is what they are doing.

It's nauseating. And before people harass me, no I'm not MAGA, anti-trans, or a Republican. I'm anti-showing your penis in the women's locker room and anti-canceling events that impact hundreds of kids when people who want to observe a religious holiday can simply take the day off or stay home.

But you’re happy enough to push the RWNJ talking points…

Dp. If not wanting my dd exposed to a penis in the women’s locker room makes me a RWNJ, then fine, I’m a RWNJ.

You can address the locker room issue without turning it into a transgender issue.

How so?

The point of separate locker rooms is that men and boys can be in varied states of undress without the presence of women/girls, and girls/women can be in varied states of undress without the presence of men/boys. Sometimes people are naked for a second or even a minute in the locker room. You and I may keep a towel or undies on, but not everyone does, and we would look ridiculous complaining to staff if another woman went topless from her locker to the shower or sat on a bench naked to put on a swimsuit.

Because the person in question was a sexual predator and NOT transgender. Move the F on.

The point that is relevant to this situation is they did not discover he was a sexual predator for far too long because they elevated above common sense and rational thought honoring a transgender policy. Instead of questioning what was going on, they dug in their heels and the situation went on for months.

Use your brains. Don’t be told what to think or too fearful to ask logical questions and point out when things don’t seem right. These people live in fear of being canceled.

That's why it's really important to write emails and speak at school board meetings if you feel strongly about something. They need to know that not everyone in Arlington feels the same way.

[Anonymous]

It's really important to vote in the School Board caucus. Three School Board Members did NOT vote to keep schools open on June 6. Only two did. Everyone else ignored all of the emails. You need to speak to School Board Members, and vote in sanity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's really important to vote in the School Board caucus. Three School Board Members did NOT vote to keep schools open on June 6. Only two did. Everyone else ignored all of the emails. You need to speak to School Board Members, and vote in sanity.

I’d argue this is why it’s important to end the caucus. We need people who aren’t in lockstep with ARLDems

[Anonymous]

I think abstaining from this vote was unacceptable. Outside of a serious personal conflict of interest that should not be allowed. It’s not even close to the hardest decision they will need to make. Mary’s on her way out the door but Zuraya has barely started, it does not bode well for the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's really important to vote in the School Board caucus. Three School Board Members did NOT vote to keep schools open on June 6. Only two did. Everyone else ignored all of the emails. You need to speak to School Board Members, and vote in sanity.

We don’t know how many emails there were? It’s puzzling to me that Duran and staff were moving to close schools without a second thought, especially in light of the magnitude of the economic impact and the newness of the holiday.