The FBI has *ARRESTED* a sitting judge in Milwaukee, over allegations it obstructed immigration enforcement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That video is hardly a smoking gun that some of you think it is.

The initial story made it sound like she helped him sneak out and evade through private access. That's not what was shown. That hallway and exit were public access. The judge had no detention orders for this person so she had no obligation to detain him or prevent him from leaving.

He wasn't running or even hurrying to flee in the hall. He and his lawyer were both walking very calmly. They even road the elevator down with agents without any issue. The running didn't start until he had exited the courthouse and the agents verbally identified themselves to detain him.

Your post is incorrect. The defendant ushered the illegal immigrant and his lawyer into a private jury area not open to the public. They exited the jury area into a courthouse hallway.

Where the law enforcement folks were standing around and they could have apprehended him in the hall or in the elevator, but for some reason, chose not to, and then decided to get charges pressed against the judge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That video is hardly a smoking gun that some of you think it is.

The initial story made it sound like she helped him sneak out and evade through private access. That's not what was shown. That hallway and exit were public access. The judge had no detention orders for this person so she had no obligation to detain him or prevent him from leaving.

He wasn't running or even hurrying to flee in the hall. He and his lawyer were both walking very calmly. They even road the elevator down with agents without any issue. The running didn't start until he had exited the courthouse and the agents verbally identified themselves to detain him.

Here’s some of the stuff she did:

- disposed of his case on that day’s docket without involving the prosecutor
- disposed of his case on that day’s docket without informing the witnesses/alleged victim(s), nor giving them guidance on case status
- told the guy to leave her courtroom through a private jury entrance/exit

This is VERY unusual. In the case of the first two, it’s being a bad judge. I doubt she’ll practice again. The last one was clearly done to help him evade arrest. There’s literally no other reason she would have him exit that door. In 15 years of practicing law I never saw a judge tell a defendant to use that door.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That video is hardly a smoking gun that some of you think it is.

The initial story made it sound like she helped him sneak out and evade through private access. That's not what was shown. That hallway and exit were public access. The judge had no detention orders for this person so she had no obligation to detain him or prevent him from leaving.

He wasn't running or even hurrying to flee in the hall. He and his lawyer were both walking very calmly. They even road the elevator down with agents without any issue. The running didn't start until he had exited the courthouse and the agents verbally identified themselves to detain him.

Your post is incorrect. The defendant ushered the illegal immigrant and his lawyer into a private jury area not open to the public. They exited the jury area into a courthouse hallway.

Where the law enforcement folks were standing around and they could have apprehended him in the hall or in the elevator, but for some reason, chose not to, and then decided to get charges pressed against the judge.

The judge ushered a criminal illegal alien into a private jury area to evade arrest by ICE. That is the crime. The judge didn’t know there were other task force members in different parts of the courthouse.

How and where the arrest was effected is immaterial to the case against the judge,

FAFO

[Anonymous]

Lies lies lies.
She let him fo out by a side entrance to the same hal the ICE agents were waiting in. She did not try to obstruct the arresr. She told the agents she disn't want them to make an areest directly outside of her courtroom. She thought it might upset other defendants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That video is hardly a smoking gun that some of you think it is.

The initial story made it sound like she helped him sneak out and evade through private access. That's not what was shown. That hallway and exit were public access. The judge had no detention orders for this person so she had no obligation to detain him or prevent him from leaving.

He wasn't running or even hurrying to flee in the hall. He and his lawyer were both walking very calmly. They even road the elevator down with agents without any issue. The running didn't start until he had exited the courthouse and the agents verbally identified themselves to detain him.

Here’s some of the stuff she did:

- disposed of his case on that day’s docket without involving the prosecutor
- disposed of his case on that day’s docket without informing the witnesses/alleged victim(s), nor giving them guidance on case status
- told the guy to leave her courtroom through a private jury entrance/exit

This is VERY unusual. In the case of the first two, it’s being a bad judge. I doubt she’ll practice again. The last one was clearly done to help him evade arrest. There’s literally no other reason she would have him exit that door. In 15 years of practicing law I never saw a judge tell a defendant to use that door.

How often do you see ICE renove defendants in a courtroom (or plaintiffs) before a court proceeding? Before this year, that is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Right now all rules are suspended per Trump. Why should anyone follow the law if he doesn’t (or pardons every GOP crook)?

+1

He doesn't think about consequences and doesn't care. But the rest of us care about having a country with laws. Or having a country with no laws, like we have right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lies lies lies.
She let him fo out by a side entrance to the same hal the ICE agents were waiting in. She did not try to obstruct the arresr. She told the agents she disn't want them to make an areest directly outside of her courtroom. She thought it might upset other defendants.

The ICE agents she identified were diverted by her to the Chief Judge’s office. She then reentered her courtroom and directed the illegal immigrant to a private jury area that the public isn’t allowed access to. She had no way of knowing other task force members were stationed throughout the courthouse. This is an easy case. She’s in serious trouble.

ICE agents are allowed to make an arrest outside the courtroom. The Chief Judge confirmed that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That video is hardly a smoking gun that some of you think it is.

The initial story made it sound like she helped him sneak out and evade through private access. That's not what was shown. That hallway and exit were public access. The judge had no detention orders for this person so she had no obligation to detain him or prevent him from leaving.

He wasn't running or even hurrying to flee in the hall. He and his lawyer were both walking very calmly. They even road the elevator down with agents without any issue. The running didn't start until he had exited the courthouse and the agents verbally identified themselves to detain him.

Here’s some of the stuff she did:

- disposed of his case on that day’s docket without involving the prosecutor
- disposed of his case on that day’s docket without informing the witnesses/alleged victim(s), nor giving them guidance on case status
- told the guy to leave her courtroom through a private jury entrance/exit

This is VERY unusual. In the case of the first two, it’s being a bad judge. I doubt she’ll practice again. The last one was clearly done to help him evade arrest. There’s literally no other reason she would have him exit that door. In 15 years of practicing law I never saw a judge tell a defendant to use that door.

How often do you see ICE renove defendants in a courtroom (or plaintiffs) before a court proceeding? Before this year, that is.

Do you have a link that confirms ICE removed defendants in or from a courtroom? They are allowed to make arrests in the courthouse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lies lies lies.
She let him fo out by a side entrance to the same hal the ICE agents were waiting in. She did not try to obstruct the arresr. She told the agents she disn't want them to make an areest directly outside of her courtroom. She thought it might upset other defendants.

Did she tell the ICE agents to arrest in a different location, and she would sent the immigrant there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lies lies lies.
She let him fo out by a side entrance to the same hal the ICE agents were waiting in. She did not try to obstruct the arresr. She told the agents she disn't want them to make an areest directly outside of her courtroom. She thought it might upset other defendants.

Did she tell the ICE agents to arrest in a different location, and she would sent the immigrant there?

Not even close bud.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Apparently judges can't be trusted to respect the rule of law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That video is hardly a smoking gun that some of you think it is.

The initial story made it sound like she helped him sneak out and evade through private access. That's not what was shown. That hallway and exit were public access. The judge had no detention orders for this person so she had no obligation to detain him or prevent him from leaving.

He wasn't running or even hurrying to flee in the hall. He and his lawyer were both walking very calmly. They even road the elevator down with agents without any issue. The running didn't start until he had exited the courthouse and the agents verbally identified themselves to detain him.

Your post is incorrect. The defendant ushered the illegal immigrant and his lawyer into a private jury area not open to the public. They exited the jury area into a courthouse hallway.

Where the law enforcement folks were standing around and they could have apprehended him in the hall or in the elevator, but for some reason, chose not to, and then decided to get charges pressed against the judge.

The judge ushered a criminal illegal alien into a private jury area to evade arrest by ICE. That is the crime. The judge didn’t know there were other task force members in different parts of the courthouse.

How and where the arrest was effected is immaterial to the case against the judge,

FAFO

You are parroting what you've heard online, not what was shown in that longer video of the entire encounter that was released. That video is amazing for her defense.

The door he and his lawyer used were NOT marked Private Access. This video shows him riding the elevator with his lawyer and an UC ICE agent. The video showed him calmly exiting the courthouse with his lawyer. He didn't start fleeing until when he was outside and ICE verbally identified themselves.

There is ZERO video evidence of the judge ushering anyone. Again, the doors they used had zero markings of Private Access or Restricted Access.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently judges can't be trusted to respect the rule of law.

Like Trump can


Now you're pulling my leg

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That video is hardly a smoking gun that some of you think it is.

The initial story made it sound like she helped him sneak out and evade through private access. That's not what was shown. That hallway and exit were public access. The judge had no detention orders for this person so she had no obligation to detain him or prevent him from leaving.

He wasn't running or even hurrying to flee in the hall. He and his lawyer were both walking very calmly. They even road the elevator down with agents without any issue. The running didn't start until he had exited the courthouse and the agents verbally identified themselves to detain him.

Here’s some of the stuff she did:

- disposed of his case on that day’s docket without involving the prosecutor
- disposed of his case on that day’s docket without informing the witnesses/alleged victim(s), nor giving them guidance on case status
- told the guy to leave her courtroom through a private jury entrance/exit

This is VERY unusual. In the case of the first two, it’s being a bad judge. I doubt she’ll practice again. The last one was clearly done to help him evade arrest. There’s literally no other reason she would have him exit that door. In 15 years of practicing law I never saw a judge tell a defendant to use that door.

So what? Trump isn't adhering to the rule of law, why should she? It is also AMORAL for these ICE Thugs to be arresting people who are there at court proceedings to resolve legal issues, including immigration. People are trying to use legal channels and are being arrested for doing so. Shame on those ICE agents.