The SPECIFIC Muslim people Mink was referring to were at a joint protest with "Moms For Liberty". |
You don't label people, even when they label themselves? That certainly is open-minded. |
No, she said "some Muslim families" - she wasn't referring to the specific people at the protest. She was referring to any Muslim people that oppose having books about LGBTQ+ people in schools. Not the Latino, White or Black people that oppose these books. The MUSLIM people. |
You're taking her words out of context. |
| Btw, I know she didn't intend this, but her comments come across as a threat to Muslims. She's saying, I know all these White, Latino and Black people also don't like these books, but YOU, you specifically, will be labeled as being equivalent to White supremacists - e.g. you are Muslim extremists. Do any of you know or remember what happened to Muslims after 9/11? It was traumatic. It's simply not okay to label Muslims that hold views commonly held by other Americans as being extremist. It's untrue that these views are rare and it's dangerous to Muslims to support singling them out as extremists. |
No I'm not, you're just upset that her words directly contradict your argument. |
Eh? No. This isn't ancient history, it happened just last week. |
NP, but if your argument depends on equating "some Muslim families" to her saying "any Muslim families" you're not representing what she said in good faith. She was very clear that she didn't think all Muslims were siding with white supremacists, and she was very clear that she would not put the people who spoke at the meeting in the same category as white supremacists. It was a nuanced statement and you're misrepresenting it. |
Okay? Just to review, in her comments she said, "It does put some Muslim families, not all of course, but some Muslim families on the same side of an issue as white supremacists and outright bigots". She was absolutely NOT referring simply to the specific people who were at the protest. Why is she fixating on Muslims? Does she not realize how many Christian people, whom nobody is calling "White supremacists and outright bigots", don't like these books? I wish it weren't true but transphobia and homophobia are widespread. |
I literally said, "some Muslim families". She was not referring to specific Muslims who were at the protest or joined a court case. She was referring to the MUSLIMS that agree with people who think that kids should not be reading certain books in schools. Now the Latino, Black and White people who oppose these books are not White supremacists, no, but the Muslims are. |
| Btw it's hilarious you are accusing me of misrepresenting Mink's comments in the same breath where you literally say I said something I did not say. |
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Btw, I know she didn't intend this, but her comments come across as a threat to Muslims. She's saying, I know all these White, Latino and Black people also don't like these books, but YOU, you specifically, will be labeled as being equivalent to White supremacists - e.g. you are Muslim extremists. Do any of you know or remember what happened to Muslims after 9/11? It was traumatic. It's simply not okay to label Muslims that hold views commonly held by other Americans as being extremist. It's untrue that these views are rare and it's dangerous to Muslims to support singling them out as extremists. |
| By the way I'm guessing none of you thought Trump was being "nuanced" when he said "And some, I assume, are good people." |
Only progressives can be nuanced. You should know this by now. |
Yes you said "some Muslim families" and then you said "She was referring to any Muslim people that oppose having books about LGBTQ+ people in schools." I guess I misquoted you slightly and changed that last "people" to "families," but I didn't misrepresent what you said at all. You meanwhile have changed Mink's statement that this issue has "unfortunately put, it does put, some, not all of course, but some Muslim families on the same side of an issue as white supremacists" into her saying that Muslims who oppose the books ARE white supremacists. She also said the people she'd talked to at the meeting, who are opposed to the books were not people she'd put in that category and that she was trying to understand their perspective. You're turning all that on its head to claim that she said the Muslims opposed to these books were white supremacists, which isn't what she said, and no person watching the video with an open mind would think she said that. |