Severance

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I still think one of the most hilarious scenes was Season 1 when Mr. Milchick is totally grooving to “defiant jazz.” I absolutely died.

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I love this show but these are my criticisms:

The pacing. The directors let certain scenes go on for far too long - the constant walking (or running) down the endless white corridors, for instance. Enough, already.

Another scene that desperately needed to be trimmed was the innie and outie Marks having their conversation via video camera. Soo tiresome.

Helly’s hideously ugly shoes. Enough said.
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Anonymous wrote:Gemma will have access to Outie Mark in the real world , right?


Unless Innie Mark doesn't leave.


Oh, I forgot they share the same body!

So how were they talking by video? The brain kept switching back and forth but not the body?

I am still confused about how the numbers erased her memories (“passions”) while creating new innies??


What? Are you stupid?


You must make a great colleague in brainstorming sessions.

Such respectful, constructive input.


I mean, PP literally said she didn't understand how the Marks were talking to each other and it was very, very clear that they were sharing the video camera. You'd have to be a complete idiot to not understand that. So yeah, PP is stupid.


DP. The PP asked "So how were they talking by video?" But Mark switching between innie and outie wasn't really about the video camera, it was about his innie being inside the cabin and his outie being outside on the deck. The camera just allowed them to have the conversation asynchronously.


Thank you for being much more precise than the knee jerk critic.

If the switch is all mental (not physical), why was it even necessary for each Mark to be in a different place ? (Perhaps just a device to help the audience recognize who was talking at that moment?)


no, no, no

The birthing center is a special place set up by Lumon for the wealthy ladies who have a chip inside them so they won't experience/remember childbirth. So when someone with a chip goes INSIDE A CABIN, their innie takes over. Then when you go OUTSIDE the cabin, you're the outie again. So Mark would film himself as the outie outside the cabin, and then go inside, his innie would watch the video, respond, step outside....and then the outie would watch and respond. Hope that is clear.


NP but I am amazed someone could watch the show and not understand that everyone with an innie has a chip in their brain that is activated in certain locations (the elevator, the doorway to the cabin). Not a criticism, just actually wondering what the experience of the show is if you don't know the switch between innie and outie is controlled by the chip and some kind of signal in specific places. What did you think was happening at Lumon when they got on the elevator? How did you think the process of severance functioned?


NP. +1
How on earth could a viewer not understand that?? And the person who said Mark and Gemma met while grading papers in the library - are they even watching the same show?


Wait. I get the innie/outie switch chip, but I thought real outie Mark and real outie Gemma did meet at the library years ago, before they got married and tried to have a baby etc -- that was a flashback, no? If not, what did I miss?


The flashback shows them sitting next to each other while grading papers and donating blood at a blood drive.


I just rewatched that scene and it's so clear that the relationship was a setup and Gemma knows it. I think Gemma was raised by Lumon, just like Cobel.

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Anonymous wrote:I love this show but these are my criticisms:

The pacing. The directors let certain scenes go on for far too long - the constant walking (or running) down the endless white corridors, for instance. Enough, already.

Another scene that desperately needed to be trimmed was the innie and outie Marks having their conversation via video camera. Soo tiresome.

Helly’s hideously ugly shoes. Enough said.

I do agree that some scenes are too long. However, running through the corridors clearly represents lab rats running through a maze and I believe they are reinforcing that theme every time they show the corridors.
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Anonymous wrote:Gemma will have access to Outie Mark in the real world , right?


Unless Innie Mark doesn't leave.


Oh, I forgot they share the same body!

So how were they talking by video? The brain kept switching back and forth but not the body?

I am still confused about how the numbers erased her memories (“passions”) while creating new innies??


What? Are you stupid?


You must make a great colleague in brainstorming sessions.

Such respectful, constructive input.


I mean, PP literally said she didn't understand how the Marks were talking to each other and it was very, very clear that they were sharing the video camera. You'd have to be a complete idiot to not understand that. So yeah, PP is stupid.


DP. The PP asked "So how were they talking by video?" But Mark switching between innie and outie wasn't really about the video camera, it was about his innie being inside the cabin and his outie being outside on the deck. The camera just allowed them to have the conversation asynchronously.


Thank you for being much more precise than the knee jerk critic.

If the switch is all mental (not physical), why was it even necessary for each Mark to be in a different place ? (Perhaps just a device to help the audience recognize who was talking at that moment?)


no, no, no

The birthing center is a special place set up by Lumon for the wealthy ladies who have a chip inside them so they won't experience/remember childbirth. So when someone with a chip goes INSIDE A CABIN, their innie takes over. Then when you go OUTSIDE the cabin, you're the outie again. So Mark would film himself as the outie outside the cabin, and then go inside, his innie would watch the video, respond, step outside....and then the outie would watch and respond. Hope that is clear.


NP but I am amazed someone could watch the show and not understand that everyone with an innie has a chip in their brain that is activated in certain locations (the elevator, the doorway to the cabin). Not a criticism, just actually wondering what the experience of the show is if you don't know the switch between innie and outie is controlled by the chip and some kind of signal in specific places. What did you think was happening at Lumon when they got on the elevator? How did you think the process of severance functioned?


NP. +1
How on earth could a viewer not understand that?? And the person who said Mark and Gemma met while grading papers in the library - are they even watching the same show?


Wait. I get the innie/outie switch chip, but I thought real outie Mark and real outie Gemma did meet at the library years ago, before they got married and tried to have a baby etc -- that was a flashback, no? If not, what did I miss?


The flashback shows them sitting next to each other while grading papers and donating blood at a blood drive.


I just rewatched that scene and it's so clear that the relationship was a setup and Gemma knows it. I think Gemma was raised by Lumon, just like Cobel.



I don’t think Gemma knows this at all.
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Anonymous wrote:I love this show but these are my criticisms:

The pacing. The directors let certain scenes go on for far too long - the constant walking (or running) down the endless white corridors, for instance. Enough, already.

Another scene that desperately needed to be trimmed was the innie and outie Marks having their conversation via video camera. Soo tiresome.

Helly’s hideously ugly shoes. Enough said.

I do agree that some scenes are too long. However, running through the corridors clearly represents lab rats running through a maze and I believe they are reinforcing that theme every time they show the corridors.


Well, obviously. But they don’t need to hit us over the head with it for large portions of every episode.
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Anonymous wrote:Ok now that Severance is over, can someone recommend a new show for me to watch? Not necessarily *like* Severance, just something you found as enjoyable/well-written/bingeable.


Slow Horses
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I'm assuming that Miss Huang reported Mr. Milchick for improper use of paper clips and excessively large words? Which was why he very coldly let her know that her presence there was at his discretion. Loved that scene.
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"Devour feculence"
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Anonymous wrote:Gemma will have access to Outie Mark in the real world , right?


Unless Innie Mark doesn't leave.


Oh, I forgot they share the same body!

So how were they talking by video? The brain kept switching back and forth but not the body?

I am still confused about how the numbers erased her memories (“passions”) while creating new innies??


What? Are you stupid?


You must make a great colleague in brainstorming sessions.

Such respectful, constructive input.


I mean, PP literally said she didn't understand how the Marks were talking to each other and it was very, very clear that they were sharing the video camera. You'd have to be a complete idiot to not understand that. So yeah, PP is stupid.


DP. The PP asked "So how were they talking by video?" But Mark switching between innie and outie wasn't really about the video camera, it was about his innie being inside the cabin and his outie being outside on the deck. The camera just allowed them to have the conversation asynchronously.


Thank you for being much more precise than the knee jerk critic.

If the switch is all mental (not physical), why was it even necessary for each Mark to be in a different place ? (Perhaps just a device to help the audience recognize who was talking at that moment?)


no, no, no

The birthing center is a special place set up by Lumon for the wealthy ladies who have a chip inside them so they won't experience/remember childbirth. So when someone with a chip goes INSIDE A CABIN, their innie takes over. Then when you go OUTSIDE the cabin, you're the outie again. So Mark would film himself as the outie outside the cabin, and then go inside, his innie would watch the video, respond, step outside....and then the outie would watch and respond. Hope that is clear.


NP but I am amazed someone could watch the show and not understand that everyone with an innie has a chip in their brain that is activated in certain locations (the elevator, the doorway to the cabin). Not a criticism, just actually wondering what the experience of the show is if you don't know the switch between innie and outie is controlled by the chip and some kind of signal in specific places. What did you think was happening at Lumon when they got on the elevator? How did you think the process of severance functioned?


NP. +1
How on earth could a viewer not understand that?? And the person who said Mark and Gemma met while grading papers in the library - are they even watching the same show?


Wait. I get the innie/outie switch chip, but I thought real outie Mark and real outie Gemma did meet at the library years ago, before they got married and tried to have a baby etc -- that was a flashback, no? If not, what did I miss?


The flashback shows them sitting next to each other while grading papers and donating blood at a blood drive.


I just rewatched that scene and it's so clear that the relationship was a setup and Gemma knows it. I think Gemma was raised by Lumon, just like Cobel.



I don’t think Gemma knows this at all.

Gemma had the same cards at home that were seen in O&D, like the one that Dylan stole. Gemma was already involved in the Eagan cult.
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Anonymous wrote:Gemma will have access to Outie Mark in the real world , right?


Unless Innie Mark doesn't leave.


Oh, I forgot they share the same body!

So how were they talking by video? The brain kept switching back and forth but not the body?

I am still confused about how the numbers erased her memories (“passions”) while creating new innies??


What? Are you stupid?


You must make a great colleague in brainstorming sessions.

Such respectful, constructive input.


I mean, PP literally said she didn't understand how the Marks were talking to each other and it was very, very clear that they were sharing the video camera. You'd have to be a complete idiot to not understand that. So yeah, PP is stupid.


DP. The PP asked "So how were they talking by video?" But Mark switching between innie and outie wasn't really about the video camera, it was about his innie being inside the cabin and his outie being outside on the deck. The camera just allowed them to have the conversation asynchronously.


Thank you for being much more precise than the knee jerk critic.

If the switch is all mental (not physical), why was it even necessary for each Mark to be in a different place ? (Perhaps just a device to help the audience recognize who was talking at that moment?)


no, no, no

The birthing center is a special place set up by Lumon for the wealthy ladies who have a chip inside them so they won't experience/remember childbirth. So when someone with a chip goes INSIDE A CABIN, their innie takes over. Then when you go OUTSIDE the cabin, you're the outie again. So Mark would film himself as the outie outside the cabin, and then go inside, his innie would watch the video, respond, step outside....and then the outie would watch and respond. Hope that is clear.


NP but I am amazed someone could watch the show and not understand that everyone with an innie has a chip in their brain that is activated in certain locations (the elevator, the doorway to the cabin). Not a criticism, just actually wondering what the experience of the show is if you don't know the switch between innie and outie is controlled by the chip and some kind of signal in specific places. What did you think was happening at Lumon when they got on the elevator? How did you think the process of severance functioned?


NP. +1
How on earth could a viewer not understand that?? And the person who said Mark and Gemma met while grading papers in the library - are they even watching the same show?


Wait. I get the innie/outie switch chip, but I thought real outie Mark and real outie Gemma did meet at the library years ago, before they got married and tried to have a baby etc -- that was a flashback, no? If not, what did I miss?


The flashback shows them sitting next to each other while grading papers and donating blood at a blood drive.


I just rewatched that scene and it's so clear that the relationship was a setup and Gemma knows it. I think Gemma was raised by Lumon, just like Cobel.



I don’t think Gemma knows this at all.

Gemma had the same cards at home that were seen in O&D, like the one that Dylan stole. Gemma was already involved in the Eagan cult.


But that was much later than the scene at the blood drive. We haven't seen anything to suggest earlier connections with Lumon.
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Anonymous wrote:Gemma will have access to Outie Mark in the real world , right?


Unless Innie Mark doesn't leave.


Oh, I forgot they share the same body!

So how were they talking by video? The brain kept switching back and forth but not the body?

I am still confused about how the numbers erased her memories (“passions”) while creating new innies??


What? Are you stupid?


You must make a great colleague in brainstorming sessions.

Such respectful, constructive input.


I mean, PP literally said she didn't understand how the Marks were talking to each other and it was very, very clear that they were sharing the video camera. You'd have to be a complete idiot to not understand that. So yeah, PP is stupid.


DP. The PP asked "So how were they talking by video?" But Mark switching between innie and outie wasn't really about the video camera, it was about his innie being inside the cabin and his outie being outside on the deck. The camera just allowed them to have the conversation asynchronously.


Thank you for being much more precise than the knee jerk critic.

If the switch is all mental (not physical), why was it even necessary for each Mark to be in a different place ? (Perhaps just a device to help the audience recognize who was talking at that moment?)


no, no, no

The birthing center is a special place set up by Lumon for the wealthy ladies who have a chip inside them so they won't experience/remember childbirth. So when someone with a chip goes INSIDE A CABIN, their innie takes over. Then when you go OUTSIDE the cabin, you're the outie again. So Mark would film himself as the outie outside the cabin, and then go inside, his innie would watch the video, respond, step outside....and then the outie would watch and respond. Hope that is clear.


NP but I am amazed someone could watch the show and not understand that everyone with an innie has a chip in their brain that is activated in certain locations (the elevator, the doorway to the cabin). Not a criticism, just actually wondering what the experience of the show is if you don't know the switch between innie and outie is controlled by the chip and some kind of signal in specific places. What did you think was happening at Lumon when they got on the elevator? How did you think the process of severance functioned?


NP. +1
How on earth could a viewer not understand that?? And the person who said Mark and Gemma met while grading papers in the library - are they even watching the same show?


Wait. I get the innie/outie switch chip, but I thought real outie Mark and real outie Gemma did meet at the library years ago, before they got married and tried to have a baby etc -- that was a flashback, no? If not, what did I miss?


The flashback shows them sitting next to each other while grading papers and donating blood at a blood drive.


I just rewatched that scene and it's so clear that the relationship was a setup and Gemma knows it. I think Gemma was raised by Lumon, just like Cobel.



I don’t think Gemma knows this at all.

Gemma had the same cards at home that were seen in O&D, like the one that Dylan stole. Gemma was already involved in the Eagan cult.


But that was much later than the scene at the blood drive. We haven't seen anything to suggest earlier connections with Lumon.

The point is that she had the cards before Mark went to work for Lumon. It's not like she joined the cult in the middle of her marriage. She probably loved him, but their meet cute was a setup. Also, Lumon ruined her chances of having a baby. They wouldn't let that happen.
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NP. Someone said earlier that Gemma voluntarily joined Lumon for some experiments? When exactly did that happen? I have zero recollection of her doing or saying anything of the sort.
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Anonymous wrote:Gemma will have access to Outie Mark in the real world , right?


Unless Innie Mark doesn't leave.


Oh, I forgot they share the same body!

So how were they talking by video? The brain kept switching back and forth but not the body?

I am still confused about how the numbers erased her memories (“passions”) while creating new innies??


What? Are you stupid?


You must make a great colleague in brainstorming sessions.

Such respectful, constructive input.


I mean, PP literally said she didn't understand how the Marks were talking to each other and it was very, very clear that they were sharing the video camera. You'd have to be a complete idiot to not understand that. So yeah, PP is stupid.


DP. The PP asked "So how were they talking by video?" But Mark switching between innie and outie wasn't really about the video camera, it was about his innie being inside the cabin and his outie being outside on the deck. The camera just allowed them to have the conversation asynchronously.


Thank you for being much more precise than the knee jerk critic.

If the switch is all mental (not physical), why was it even necessary for each Mark to be in a different place ? (Perhaps just a device to help the audience recognize who was talking at that moment?)


no, no, no

The birthing center is a special place set up by Lumon for the wealthy ladies who have a chip inside them so they won't experience/remember childbirth. So when someone with a chip goes INSIDE A CABIN, their innie takes over. Then when you go OUTSIDE the cabin, you're the outie again. So Mark would film himself as the outie outside the cabin, and then go inside, his innie would watch the video, respond, step outside....and then the outie would watch and respond. Hope that is clear.


NP but I am amazed someone could watch the show and not understand that everyone with an innie has a chip in their brain that is activated in certain locations (the elevator, the doorway to the cabin). Not a criticism, just actually wondering what the experience of the show is if you don't know the switch between innie and outie is controlled by the chip and some kind of signal in specific places. What did you think was happening at Lumon when they got on the elevator? How did you think the process of severance functioned?


NP. +1
How on earth could a viewer not understand that?? And the person who said Mark and Gemma met while grading papers in the library - are they even watching the same show?


Wait. I get the innie/outie switch chip, but I thought real outie Mark and real outie Gemma did meet at the library years ago, before they got married and tried to have a baby etc -- that was a flashback, no? If not, what did I miss?


The flashback shows them sitting next to each other while grading papers and donating blood at a blood drive.


I just rewatched that scene and it's so clear that the relationship was a setup and Gemma knows it. I think Gemma was raised by Lumon, just like Cobel.



I don’t think Gemma knows this at all.

Gemma had the same cards at home that were seen in O&D, like the one that Dylan stole. Gemma was already involved in the Eagan cult.


But that was much later than the scene at the blood drive. We haven't seen anything to suggest earlier connections with Lumon.

The point is that she had the cards before Mark went to work for Lumon. It's not like she joined the cult in the middle of her marriage. She probably loved him, but their meet cute was a setup. Also, Lumon ruined her chances of having a baby. They wouldn't let that happen.


She signed up for their mailing list when she became a patient at the fertility clinic. That's why they're sending her the cards.
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Anonymous wrote:Gemma will have access to Outie Mark in the real world , right?


Unless Innie Mark doesn't leave.


Oh, I forgot they share the same body!

So how were they talking by video? The brain kept switching back and forth but not the body?

I am still confused about how the numbers erased her memories (“passions”) while creating new innies??


What? Are you stupid?


You must make a great colleague in brainstorming sessions.

Such respectful, constructive input.


I mean, PP literally said she didn't understand how the Marks were talking to each other and it was very, very clear that they were sharing the video camera. You'd have to be a complete idiot to not understand that. So yeah, PP is stupid.


DP. The PP asked "So how were they talking by video?" But Mark switching between innie and outie wasn't really about the video camera, it was about his innie being inside the cabin and his outie being outside on the deck. The camera just allowed them to have the conversation asynchronously.


Thank you for being much more precise than the knee jerk critic.

If the switch is all mental (not physical), why was it even necessary for each Mark to be in a different place ? (Perhaps just a device to help the audience recognize who was talking at that moment?)


no, no, no

The birthing center is a special place set up by Lumon for the wealthy ladies who have a chip inside them so they won't experience/remember childbirth. So when someone with a chip goes INSIDE A CABIN, their innie takes over. Then when you go OUTSIDE the cabin, you're the outie again. So Mark would film himself as the outie outside the cabin, and then go inside, his innie would watch the video, respond, step outside....and then the outie would watch and respond. Hope that is clear.


NP but I am amazed someone could watch the show and not understand that everyone with an innie has a chip in their brain that is activated in certain locations (the elevator, the doorway to the cabin). Not a criticism, just actually wondering what the experience of the show is if you don't know the switch between innie and outie is controlled by the chip and some kind of signal in specific places. What did you think was happening at Lumon when they got on the elevator? How did you think the process of severance functioned?


NP. +1
How on earth could a viewer not understand that?? And the person who said Mark and Gemma met while grading papers in the library - are they even watching the same show?


Wait. I get the innie/outie switch chip, but I thought real outie Mark and real outie Gemma did meet at the library years ago, before they got married and tried to have a baby etc -- that was a flashback, no? If not, what did I miss?


The flashback shows them sitting next to each other while grading papers and donating blood at a blood drive.


I just rewatched that scene and it's so clear that the relationship was a setup and Gemma knows it. I think Gemma was raised by Lumon, just like Cobel.



I don’t think Gemma knows this at all.

Gemma had the same cards at home that were seen in O&D, like the one that Dylan stole. Gemma was already involved in the Eagan cult.


But that was much later than the scene at the blood drive. We haven't seen anything to suggest earlier connections with Lumon.

The point is that she had the cards before Mark went to work for Lumon. It's not like she joined the cult in the middle of her marriage. She probably loved him, but their meet cute was a setup. Also, Lumon ruined her chances of having a baby. They wouldn't let that happen.


She signed up for their mailing list when she became a patient at the fertility clinic. That's why they're sending her the cards.


DP. Where are you getting this from? What episode?
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