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Anonymous wrote:Sure, you've shown that masks actually prevent the spread of covid, but that doesn't mean we should mask HERE. It's totally okay to spread Covid HERE.

Nevermind about long covid. Nevermind that even mild cases of covid cause elevated heart risk issues in 3% above what's normal of the population post infection. Nevermind about this B2 variant that spreads more quickly and is more dangerous that B1 Omicron and is causing concern in other countries. If you're not okay with getting or spreading a little bit of covid at this point, your only goal must be zero covid or lowest covid possible and any sacrifices to get there must be worth it. Like some of us have other considerations besides physical health in mind when having an opinion. Such as, from earlier comments in this and other threads: Lipstick. Seeing people's beautiful smiles.

Right.

Covid spread is quite low here right now. If you aren't unwilling to unmask now, you're never going to be willing to unmask. One reasonable course of action is to unmask when cases are low and re-evaluate as you go along. If the B2 variant is coming for us, well I'll be glad I got a masking break and I'll put my mask back on.

The snark about it only being about lipstick and smiles is lame. If you can't see why humans don't want to wear masks all the time, then you don't see it. And if you can't see why it might not be great for kids to grow up for years on end wearing masks, then you don't see it.

I would be willing to unmask right now if I didn’t have a super expensive international trip coming up for spring break. Not willing to have the whole family go down over the next four weeks when we’ve made it this far. You have no idea why people are still masking. i know my reason is purely selfish and privileged.

Guess you haven't seen the research that masks don't work (except when perfectly put on a mannequin in a labratory - they don't in real life setting with real life humans).

Well we mask regularly inside, frequent stores, gym, and kids play on mix of indoor or outdoor sports. Never had Covid. So we’re sticking with what’s been working until spring break.

You've probably already had Covid and didn't know it. (More than 1/3 of Virginians have already had it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/28/covid-cases-nationwide/)

I know that’s what you would like to think, but we are all testing weekly due to various reasons related to school, work, etc.

Who is “we are all”? I’m not doing that and no one I know is doing that.

My family. I’m referring to my situation given we have not had COVID.

May whole family had covid. I had symptoms but never tested positive. Either I’m immune to covid or else I just don’t show positive.

OK cool story, I think the new feature where you can’t see the whole thread at once has people responding with random statements.

This started with me saying we are masking until spring break because we have a vacation planned. Someone else responded saying masks don’t work. I indicated that we do a shit ton of stuff inside with masks and family has never gotten Covid, but that was disputed because so many people in this area have apparently already had it. I responded saying that we test at least weekly, everyone in our household. We have never had Covid, we’ve never been sick this entire time. I have a severe immune system issues so we would have known. Maybe we were lucky, maybe the KN95s really work for us. Whatever, we’re going to keep masking due to our vacation and the bro dads/rage moms can keep being irritated by it.

It's bizarre that the anti maskers are so triggered by OTHER people wearing masks. I have a high risk condition so I need to wear masks indoors.

And my allergist just told me to wear my mask outdoors now because of spring allergens. Wasn't crazy about doing that but tried it and it does help. So now I will be wearing my mask outside too not for Covid but for allergies.

Why do other people care what I do?

"Anti-maskers" in this area aren't triggered by other people wearing masks. They do not care. They are triggered by other people telling them that they are selfish, horrible human beings for not wearing a mask. They are triggered by people saying that their non-mask-wearing kids should go off in a room by themselves to be taught separately. They are triggered by people saying that they should be more worried about covid, long covid, catching covid multiple times, etc.

I am also triggered by the passive aggressive commentary.

We let Johnny decide what to do and he wants to wear a mask since he cares about others and the community.

If that type of a comment makes you feel bad, you should consider why that is.

It doesn't make me feel bad. It makes me feel annoyed. I find passive aggressive people annoying. We all know them. People who slip their digs in with the saccharine sweet BS delivery. And please note, women do this. Not men. Just get over it and say what you mean.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, you've shown that masks actually prevent the spread of covid, but that doesn't mean we should mask HERE. It's totally okay to spread Covid HERE.

Nevermind about long covid. Nevermind that even mild cases of covid cause elevated heart risk issues in 3% above what's normal of the population post infection. Nevermind about this B2 variant that spreads more quickly and is more dangerous that B1 Omicron and is causing concern in other countries. If you're not okay with getting or spreading a little bit of covid at this point, your only goal must be zero covid or lowest covid possible and any sacrifices to get there must be worth it. Like some of us have other considerations besides physical health in mind when having an opinion. Such as, from earlier comments in this and other threads: Lipstick. Seeing people's beautiful smiles.

Right.

Covid spread is quite low here right now. If you aren't unwilling to unmask now, you're never going to be willing to unmask. One reasonable course of action is to unmask when cases are low and re-evaluate as you go along. If the B2 variant is coming for us, well I'll be glad I got a masking break and I'll put my mask back on.

The snark about it only being about lipstick and smiles is lame. If you can't see why humans don't want to wear masks all the time, then you don't see it. And if you can't see why it might not be great for kids to grow up for years on end wearing masks, then you don't see it.

I would be willing to unmask right now if I didn’t have a super expensive international trip coming up for spring break. Not willing to have the whole family go down over the next four weeks when we’ve made it this far. You have no idea why people are still masking. i know my reason is purely selfish and privileged.

Guess you haven't seen the research that masks don't work (except when perfectly put on a mannequin in a labratory - they don't in real life setting with real life humans).

Well we mask regularly inside, frequent stores, gym, and kids play on mix of indoor or outdoor sports. Never had Covid. So we’re sticking with what’s been working until spring break.

You've probably already had Covid and didn't know it. (More than 1/3 of Virginians have already had it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/28/covid-cases-nationwide/)

I know that’s what you would like to think, but we are all testing weekly due to various reasons related to school, work, etc.

Who is “we are all”? I’m not doing that and no one I know is doing that.

My family. I’m referring to my situation given we have not had COVID.

May whole family had covid. I had symptoms but never tested positive. Either I’m immune to covid or else I just don’t show positive.

OK cool story, I think the new feature where you can’t see the whole thread at once has people responding with random statements.

This started with me saying we are masking until spring break because we have a vacation planned. Someone else responded saying masks don’t work. I indicated that we do a shit ton of stuff inside with masks and family has never gotten Covid, but that was disputed because so many people in this area have apparently already had it. I responded saying that we test at least weekly, everyone in our household. We have never had Covid, we’ve never been sick this entire time. I have a severe immune system issues so we would have known. Maybe we were lucky, maybe the KN95s really work for us. Whatever, we’re going to keep masking due to our vacation and the bro dads/rage moms can keep being irritated by it.

It's bizarre that the anti maskers are so triggered by OTHER people wearing masks. I have a high risk condition so I need to wear masks indoors.

And my allergist just told me to wear my mask outdoors now because of spring allergens. Wasn't crazy about doing that but tried it and it does help. So now I will be wearing my mask outside too not for Covid but for allergies.

Why do other people care what I do?

This whole thread started due to people talking about a mask optional policy. Optional. You are correct, no one cares what you do. They are optional and we are glad they are optional. But some people have been upset that they are no longer mandated.

This is it exactly. People who don't want to wear a mask don't really care if others wish to. But, those who want to wear masks are often bent out of shape by others not doing so.

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Everyone is so inside their heads on the masking issue. Most people don’t care much whether others are masked (at least when the rules say it’s entirely optional), but we’ve all read so many crazy stories about anti and pro maskers that if a masked person sees an unmasked person they get it in their head that the other person is judging them (and vice versa), and if there’s any eye contact it’s presumed to carry a judgmental message - when the reality is that these two people are probably indifferent to one another’s choice and are just on high alert because some people are hell bent on making the issue divisive.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, you've shown that masks actually prevent the spread of covid, but that doesn't mean we should mask HERE. It's totally okay to spread Covid HERE.

Nevermind about long covid. Nevermind that even mild cases of covid cause elevated heart risk issues in 3% above what's normal of the population post infection. Nevermind about this B2 variant that spreads more quickly and is more dangerous that B1 Omicron and is causing concern in other countries. If you're not okay with getting or spreading a little bit of covid at this point, your only goal must be zero covid or lowest covid possible and any sacrifices to get there must be worth it. Like some of us have other considerations besides physical health in mind when having an opinion. Such as, from earlier comments in this and other threads: Lipstick. Seeing people's beautiful smiles.

Right.

Covid spread is quite low here right now. If you aren't unwilling to unmask now, you're never going to be willing to unmask. One reasonable course of action is to unmask when cases are low and re-evaluate as you go along. If the B2 variant is coming for us, well I'll be glad I got a masking break and I'll put my mask back on.

The snark about it only being about lipstick and smiles is lame. If you can't see why humans don't want to wear masks all the time, then you don't see it. And if you can't see why it might not be great for kids to grow up for years on end wearing masks, then you don't see it.

I would be willing to unmask right now if I didn’t have a super expensive international trip coming up for spring break. Not willing to have the whole family go down over the next four weeks when we’ve made it this far. You have no idea why people are still masking. i know my reason is purely selfish and privileged.

Guess you haven't seen the research that masks don't work (except when perfectly put on a mannequin in a labratory - they don't in real life setting with real life humans).

Well we mask regularly inside, frequent stores, gym, and kids play on mix of indoor or outdoor sports. Never had Covid. So we’re sticking with what’s been working until spring break.

You've probably already had Covid and didn't know it. (More than 1/3 of Virginians have already had it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/28/covid-cases-nationwide/)

I know that’s what you would like to think, but we are all testing weekly due to various reasons related to school, work, etc.

Who is “we are all”? I’m not doing that and no one I know is doing that.

My family. I’m referring to my situation given we have not had COVID.

May whole family had covid. I had symptoms but never tested positive. Either I’m immune to covid or else I just don’t show positive.

OK cool story, I think the new feature where you can’t see the whole thread at once has people responding with random statements.

This started with me saying we are masking until spring break because we have a vacation planned. Someone else responded saying masks don’t work. I indicated that we do a shit ton of stuff inside with masks and family has never gotten Covid, but that was disputed because so many people in this area have apparently already had it. I responded saying that we test at least weekly, everyone in our household. We have never had Covid, we’ve never been sick this entire time. I have a severe immune system issues so we would have known. Maybe we were lucky, maybe the KN95s really work for us. Whatever, we’re going to keep masking due to our vacation and the bro dads/rage moms can keep being irritated by it.

It's bizarre that the anti maskers are so triggered by OTHER people wearing masks. I have a high risk condition so I need to wear masks indoors.

And my allergist just told me to wear my mask outdoors now because of spring allergens. Wasn't crazy about doing that but tried it and it does help. So now I will be wearing my mask outside too not for Covid but for allergies.

Why do other people care what I do?

"Anti-maskers" in this area aren't triggered by other people wearing masks. They do not care. They are triggered by other people telling them that they are selfish, horrible human beings for not wearing a mask. They are triggered by people saying that their non-mask-wearing kids should go off in a room by themselves to be taught separately. They are triggered by people saying that they should be more worried about covid, long covid, catching covid multiple times, etc.

I am also triggered by the passive aggressive commentary.

We let Johnny decide what to do and he wants to wear a mask since he cares about others and the community.

If that type of a comment makes you feel bad, you should consider why that is.

It doesn't make me feel bad. It makes me feel annoyed. I find passive aggressive people annoying. We all know them. People who slip their digs in with the saccharine sweet BS delivery. And please note, women do this. Not men. Just get over it and say what you mean.

Well your decision not to mask does have an impact on other people. If you find it annoying when others express appreciation for those who take others' into account, that's on you.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, you've shown that masks actually prevent the spread of covid, but that doesn't mean we should mask HERE. It's totally okay to spread Covid HERE.

Nevermind about long covid. Nevermind that even mild cases of covid cause elevated heart risk issues in 3% above what's normal of the population post infection. Nevermind about this B2 variant that spreads more quickly and is more dangerous that B1 Omicron and is causing concern in other countries. If you're not okay with getting or spreading a little bit of covid at this point, your only goal must be zero covid or lowest covid possible and any sacrifices to get there must be worth it. Like some of us have other considerations besides physical health in mind when having an opinion. Such as, from earlier comments in this and other threads: Lipstick. Seeing people's beautiful smiles.

Right.

Covid spread is quite low here right now. If you aren't unwilling to unmask now, you're never going to be willing to unmask. One reasonable course of action is to unmask when cases are low and re-evaluate as you go along. If the B2 variant is coming for us, well I'll be glad I got a masking break and I'll put my mask back on.

The snark about it only being about lipstick and smiles is lame. If you can't see why humans don't want to wear masks all the time, then you don't see it. And if you can't see why it might not be great for kids to grow up for years on end wearing masks, then you don't see it.

I would be willing to unmask right now if I didn’t have a super expensive international trip coming up for spring break. Not willing to have the whole family go down over the next four weeks when we’ve made it this far. You have no idea why people are still masking. i know my reason is purely selfish and privileged.

Guess you haven't seen the research that masks don't work (except when perfectly put on a mannequin in a labratory - they don't in real life setting with real life humans).

Well we mask regularly inside, frequent stores, gym, and kids play on mix of indoor or outdoor sports. Never had Covid. So we’re sticking with what’s been working until spring break.

You've probably already had Covid and didn't know it. (More than 1/3 of Virginians have already had it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/28/covid-cases-nationwide/)

I know that’s what you would like to think, but we are all testing weekly due to various reasons related to school, work, etc.

Who is “we are all”? I’m not doing that and no one I know is doing that.

My family. I’m referring to my situation given we have not had COVID.

May whole family had covid. I had symptoms but never tested positive. Either I’m immune to covid or else I just don’t show positive.

OK cool story, I think the new feature where you can’t see the whole thread at once has people responding with random statements.

This started with me saying we are masking until spring break because we have a vacation planned. Someone else responded saying masks don’t work. I indicated that we do a shit ton of stuff inside with masks and family has never gotten Covid, but that was disputed because so many people in this area have apparently already had it. I responded saying that we test at least weekly, everyone in our household. We have never had Covid, we’ve never been sick this entire time. I have a severe immune system issues so we would have known. Maybe we were lucky, maybe the KN95s really work for us. Whatever, we’re going to keep masking due to our vacation and the bro dads/rage moms can keep being irritated by it.

It's bizarre that the anti maskers are so triggered by OTHER people wearing masks. I have a high risk condition so I need to wear masks indoors.

And my allergist just told me to wear my mask outdoors now because of spring allergens. Wasn't crazy about doing that but tried it and it does help. So now I will be wearing my mask outside too not for Covid but for allergies.

Why do other people care what I do?

This whole thread started due to people talking about a mask optional policy. Optional. You are correct, no one cares what you do. They are optional and we are glad they are optional. But some people have been upset that they are no longer mandated.

This is it exactly. People who don't want to wear a mask don't really care if others wish to. But, those who want to wear masks are often bent out of shape by others not doing so.

I don't think this is true at all. I've seen multiple comments on social media trying to convince other people to take off their masks.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, you've shown that masks actually prevent the spread of covid, but that doesn't mean we should mask HERE. It's totally okay to spread Covid HERE.

Nevermind about long covid. Nevermind that even mild cases of covid cause elevated heart risk issues in 3% above what's normal of the population post infection. Nevermind about this B2 variant that spreads more quickly and is more dangerous that B1 Omicron and is causing concern in other countries. If you're not okay with getting or spreading a little bit of covid at this point, your only goal must be zero covid or lowest covid possible and any sacrifices to get there must be worth it. Like some of us have other considerations besides physical health in mind when having an opinion. Such as, from earlier comments in this and other threads: Lipstick. Seeing people's beautiful smiles.

Right.

Covid spread is quite low here right now. If you aren't unwilling to unmask now, you're never going to be willing to unmask. One reasonable course of action is to unmask when cases are low and re-evaluate as you go along. If the B2 variant is coming for us, well I'll be glad I got a masking break and I'll put my mask back on.

The snark about it only being about lipstick and smiles is lame. If you can't see why humans don't want to wear masks all the time, then you don't see it. And if you can't see why it might not be great for kids to grow up for years on end wearing masks, then you don't see it.

I would be willing to unmask right now if I didn’t have a super expensive international trip coming up for spring break. Not willing to have the whole family go down over the next four weeks when we’ve made it this far. You have no idea why people are still masking. i know my reason is purely selfish and privileged.

Guess you haven't seen the research that masks don't work (except when perfectly put on a mannequin in a labratory - they don't in real life setting with real life humans).

Well we mask regularly inside, frequent stores, gym, and kids play on mix of indoor or outdoor sports. Never had Covid. So we’re sticking with what’s been working until spring break.

You've probably already had Covid and didn't know it. (More than 1/3 of Virginians have already had it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/28/covid-cases-nationwide/)

I know that’s what you would like to think, but we are all testing weekly due to various reasons related to school, work, etc.

Who is “we are all”? I’m not doing that and no one I know is doing that.

My family. I’m referring to my situation given we have not had COVID.

May whole family had covid. I had symptoms but never tested positive. Either I’m immune to covid or else I just don’t show positive.

OK cool story, I think the new feature where you can’t see the whole thread at once has people responding with random statements.

This started with me saying we are masking until spring break because we have a vacation planned. Someone else responded saying masks don’t work. I indicated that we do a shit ton of stuff inside with masks and family has never gotten Covid, but that was disputed because so many people in this area have apparently already had it. I responded saying that we test at least weekly, everyone in our household. We have never had Covid, we’ve never been sick this entire time. I have a severe immune system issues so we would have known. Maybe we were lucky, maybe the KN95s really work for us. Whatever, we’re going to keep masking due to our vacation and the bro dads/rage moms can keep being irritated by it.

It's bizarre that the anti maskers are so triggered by OTHER people wearing masks. I have a high risk condition so I need to wear masks indoors.

And my allergist just told me to wear my mask outdoors now because of spring allergens. Wasn't crazy about doing that but tried it and it does help. So now I will be wearing my mask outside too not for Covid but for allergies.

Why do other people care what I do?

"Anti-maskers" in this area aren't triggered by other people wearing masks. They do not care. They are triggered by other people telling them that they are selfish, horrible human beings for not wearing a mask. They are triggered by people saying that their non-mask-wearing kids should go off in a room by themselves to be taught separately. They are triggered by people saying that they should be more worried about covid, long covid, catching covid multiple times, etc.

I am also triggered by the passive aggressive commentary.

We let Johnny decide what to do and he wants to wear a mask since he cares about others and the community.

If that type of a comment makes you feel bad, you should consider why that is.

It doesn't make me feel bad. It makes me feel annoyed. I find passive aggressive people annoying. We all know them. People who slip their digs in with the saccharine sweet BS delivery. And please note, women do this. Not men. Just get over it and say what you mean.

Well your decision not to mask does have an impact on other people. If you find it annoying when others express appreciation for those who take others' into account, that's on you.

I guess you're the type who makes these comments. People smile at you but think you're insufferable. In case you're wondering.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, you've shown that masks actually prevent the spread of covid, but that doesn't mean we should mask HERE. It's totally okay to spread Covid HERE.

Nevermind about long covid. Nevermind that even mild cases of covid cause elevated heart risk issues in 3% above what's normal of the population post infection. Nevermind about this B2 variant that spreads more quickly and is more dangerous that B1 Omicron and is causing concern in other countries. If you're not okay with getting or spreading a little bit of covid at this point, your only goal must be zero covid or lowest covid possible and any sacrifices to get there must be worth it. Like some of us have other considerations besides physical health in mind when having an opinion. Such as, from earlier comments in this and other threads: Lipstick. Seeing people's beautiful smiles.

Right.

Covid spread is quite low here right now. If you aren't unwilling to unmask now, you're never going to be willing to unmask. One reasonable course of action is to unmask when cases are low and re-evaluate as you go along. If the B2 variant is coming for us, well I'll be glad I got a masking break and I'll put my mask back on.

The snark about it only being about lipstick and smiles is lame. If you can't see why humans don't want to wear masks all the time, then you don't see it. And if you can't see why it might not be great for kids to grow up for years on end wearing masks, then you don't see it.

I would be willing to unmask right now if I didn’t have a super expensive international trip coming up for spring break. Not willing to have the whole family go down over the next four weeks when we’ve made it this far. You have no idea why people are still masking. i know my reason is purely selfish and privileged.

Guess you haven't seen the research that masks don't work (except when perfectly put on a mannequin in a labratory - they don't in real life setting with real life humans).

Well we mask regularly inside, frequent stores, gym, and kids play on mix of indoor or outdoor sports. Never had Covid. So we’re sticking with what’s been working until spring break.

You've probably already had Covid and didn't know it. (More than 1/3 of Virginians have already had it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/28/covid-cases-nationwide/)

I know that’s what you would like to think, but we are all testing weekly due to various reasons related to school, work, etc.

Who is “we are all”? I’m not doing that and no one I know is doing that.

My family. I’m referring to my situation given we have not had COVID.

May whole family had covid. I had symptoms but never tested positive. Either I’m immune to covid or else I just don’t show positive.

OK cool story, I think the new feature where you can’t see the whole thread at once has people responding with random statements.

This started with me saying we are masking until spring break because we have a vacation planned. Someone else responded saying masks don’t work. I indicated that we do a shit ton of stuff inside with masks and family has never gotten Covid, but that was disputed because so many people in this area have apparently already had it. I responded saying that we test at least weekly, everyone in our household. We have never had Covid, we’ve never been sick this entire time. I have a severe immune system issues so we would have known. Maybe we were lucky, maybe the KN95s really work for us. Whatever, we’re going to keep masking due to our vacation and the bro dads/rage moms can keep being irritated by it.

It's bizarre that the anti maskers are so triggered by OTHER people wearing masks. I have a high risk condition so I need to wear masks indoors.

And my allergist just told me to wear my mask outdoors now because of spring allergens. Wasn't crazy about doing that but tried it and it does help. So now I will be wearing my mask outside too not for Covid but for allergies.

Why do other people care what I do?

This whole thread started due to people talking about a mask optional policy. Optional. You are correct, no one cares what you do. They are optional and we are glad they are optional. But some people have been upset that they are no longer mandated.

This is it exactly. People who don't want to wear a mask don't really care if others wish to. But, those who want to wear masks are often bent out of shape by others not doing so.

I don't think this is true at all. I've seen multiple comments on social media trying to convince other people to take off their masks.

It happened right here on this post when I stated my family would be wearing mass until spring break. Someone responded by posting a study about why masks don’t work. If you think someone is doing something that’s worthless, what is the necessity to point it out? If your belief is correct, what harm is it that they’re wearing one anyway? If your belief is wrong, well they’ve protected themselves. Let them be.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, you've shown that masks actually prevent the spread of covid, but that doesn't mean we should mask HERE. It's totally okay to spread Covid HERE.

Nevermind about long covid. Nevermind that even mild cases of covid cause elevated heart risk issues in 3% above what's normal of the population post infection. Nevermind about this B2 variant that spreads more quickly and is more dangerous that B1 Omicron and is causing concern in other countries. If you're not okay with getting or spreading a little bit of covid at this point, your only goal must be zero covid or lowest covid possible and any sacrifices to get there must be worth it. Like some of us have other considerations besides physical health in mind when having an opinion. Such as, from earlier comments in this and other threads: Lipstick. Seeing people's beautiful smiles.

Right.

Covid spread is quite low here right now. If you aren't unwilling to unmask now, you're never going to be willing to unmask. One reasonable course of action is to unmask when cases are low and re-evaluate as you go along. If the B2 variant is coming for us, well I'll be glad I got a masking break and I'll put my mask back on.

The snark about it only being about lipstick and smiles is lame. If you can't see why humans don't want to wear masks all the time, then you don't see it. And if you can't see why it might not be great for kids to grow up for years on end wearing masks, then you don't see it.

I would be willing to unmask right now if I didn’t have a super expensive international trip coming up for spring break. Not willing to have the whole family go down over the next four weeks when we’ve made it this far. You have no idea why people are still masking. i know my reason is purely selfish and privileged.

Guess you haven't seen the research that masks don't work (except when perfectly put on a mannequin in a labratory - they don't in real life setting with real life humans).

Well we mask regularly inside, frequent stores, gym, and kids play on mix of indoor or outdoor sports. Never had Covid. So we’re sticking with what’s been working until spring break.

You've probably already had Covid and didn't know it. (More than 1/3 of Virginians have already had it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/28/covid-cases-nationwide/)

I know that’s what you would like to think, but we are all testing weekly due to various reasons related to school, work, etc.

Who is “we are all”? I’m not doing that and no one I know is doing that.

My family. I’m referring to my situation given we have not had COVID.

May whole family had covid. I had symptoms but never tested positive. Either I’m immune to covid or else I just don’t show positive.

OK cool story, I think the new feature where you can’t see the whole thread at once has people responding with random statements.

This started with me saying we are masking until spring break because we have a vacation planned. Someone else responded saying masks don’t work. I indicated that we do a shit ton of stuff inside with masks and family has never gotten Covid, but that was disputed because so many people in this area have apparently already had it. I responded saying that we test at least weekly, everyone in our household. We have never had Covid, we’ve never been sick this entire time. I have a severe immune system issues so we would have known. Maybe we were lucky, maybe the KN95s really work for us. Whatever, we’re going to keep masking due to our vacation and the bro dads/rage moms can keep being irritated by it.

It's bizarre that the anti maskers are so triggered by OTHER people wearing masks. I have a high risk condition so I need to wear masks indoors.

And my allergist just told me to wear my mask outdoors now because of spring allergens. Wasn't crazy about doing that but tried it and it does help. So now I will be wearing my mask outside too not for Covid but for allergies.

Why do other people care what I do?

"Anti-maskers" in this area aren't triggered by other people wearing masks. They do not care. They are triggered by other people telling them that they are selfish, horrible human beings for not wearing a mask. They are triggered by people saying that their non-mask-wearing kids should go off in a room by themselves to be taught separately. They are triggered by people saying that they should be more worried about covid, long covid, catching covid multiple times, etc.

I am also triggered by the passive aggressive commentary.

We let Johnny decide what to do and he wants to wear a mask since he cares about others and the community.

If that type of a comment makes you feel bad, you should consider why that is.

It doesn't make me feel bad. It makes me feel annoyed. I find passive aggressive people annoying. We all know them. People who slip their digs in with the saccharine sweet BS delivery. And please note, women do this. Not men. Just get over it and say what you mean.

Well your decision not to mask does have an impact on other people. If you find it annoying when others express appreciation for those who take others' into account, that's on you.

I guess you're the type who makes these comments. People smile at you but think you're insufferable. In case you're wondering.

I tend to avoid people who sound like this on both sides. If only we actually did take each other into account and not just fight about it on anonymous message boards.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, you've shown that masks actually prevent the spread of covid, but that doesn't mean we should mask HERE. It's totally okay to spread Covid HERE.

Nevermind about long covid. Nevermind that even mild cases of covid cause elevated heart risk issues in 3% above what's normal of the population post infection. Nevermind about this B2 variant that spreads more quickly and is more dangerous that B1 Omicron and is causing concern in other countries. If you're not okay with getting or spreading a little bit of covid at this point, your only goal must be zero covid or lowest covid possible and any sacrifices to get there must be worth it. Like some of us have other considerations besides physical health in mind when having an opinion. Such as, from earlier comments in this and other threads: Lipstick. Seeing people's beautiful smiles.

Right.

Covid spread is quite low here right now. If you aren't unwilling to unmask now, you're never going to be willing to unmask. One reasonable course of action is to unmask when cases are low and re-evaluate as you go along. If the B2 variant is coming for us, well I'll be glad I got a masking break and I'll put my mask back on.

The snark about it only being about lipstick and smiles is lame. If you can't see why humans don't want to wear masks all the time, then you don't see it. And if you can't see why it might not be great for kids to grow up for years on end wearing masks, then you don't see it.

I would be willing to unmask right now if I didn’t have a super expensive international trip coming up for spring break. Not willing to have the whole family go down over the next four weeks when we’ve made it this far. You have no idea why people are still masking. i know my reason is purely selfish and privileged.

Guess you haven't seen the research that masks don't work (except when perfectly put on a mannequin in a labratory - they don't in real life setting with real life humans).

Well we mask regularly inside, frequent stores, gym, and kids play on mix of indoor or outdoor sports. Never had Covid. So we’re sticking with what’s been working until spring break.

You've probably already had Covid and didn't know it. (More than 1/3 of Virginians have already had it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/28/covid-cases-nationwide/)

I know that’s what you would like to think, but we are all testing weekly due to various reasons related to school, work, etc.

Who is “we are all”? I’m not doing that and no one I know is doing that.

My family. I’m referring to my situation given we have not had COVID.

May whole family had covid. I had symptoms but never tested positive. Either I’m immune to covid or else I just don’t show positive.

OK cool story, I think the new feature where you can’t see the whole thread at once has people responding with random statements.

This started with me saying we are masking until spring break because we have a vacation planned. Someone else responded saying masks don’t work. I indicated that we do a shit ton of stuff inside with masks and family has never gotten Covid, but that was disputed because so many people in this area have apparently already had it. I responded saying that we test at least weekly, everyone in our household. We have never had Covid, we’ve never been sick this entire time. I have a severe immune system issues so we would have known. Maybe we were lucky, maybe the KN95s really work for us. Whatever, we’re going to keep masking due to our vacation and the bro dads/rage moms can keep being irritated by it.

It's bizarre that the anti maskers are so triggered by OTHER people wearing masks. I have a high risk condition so I need to wear masks indoors.

And my allergist just told me to wear my mask outdoors now because of spring allergens. Wasn't crazy about doing that but tried it and it does help. So now I will be wearing my mask outside too not for Covid but for allergies.

Why do other people care what I do?

"Anti-maskers" in this area aren't triggered by other people wearing masks. They do not care. They are triggered by other people telling them that they are selfish, horrible human beings for not wearing a mask. They are triggered by people saying that their non-mask-wearing kids should go off in a room by themselves to be taught separately. They are triggered by people saying that they should be more worried about covid, long covid, catching covid multiple times, etc.

I am also triggered by the passive aggressive commentary.

We let Johnny decide what to do and he wants to wear a mask since he cares about others and the community.

If that type of a comment makes you feel bad, you should consider why that is.

It doesn't make me feel bad. It makes me feel annoyed. I find passive aggressive people annoying. We all know them. People who slip their digs in with the saccharine sweet BS delivery. And please note, women do this. Not men. Just get over it and say what you mean.

Well your decision not to mask does have an impact on other people. If you find it annoying when others express appreciation for those who take others' into account, that's on you.

I guess you're the type who makes these comments. People smile at you but think you're insufferable. In case you're wondering.

I tend to avoid people who sound like this on both sides. If only we actually did take each other into account and not just fight about it on anonymous message boards.

Yes. One of my least favorite things is the person who weaves in a dig while talking about how great their choices are, when they know you have made a different choice than them. It's so childish and transparent. And if you call them on it, oh you are reading into and just over sensitive. Mmkay.

Examples:

Larla has done so well in daycare. The fact that she's around other kids all day and not just home with an adult has done wonders for her social skills. (Person knows you have a nanny.)
Tom and I are so glad we moved to the suburbs. We just love having all the green space for the kids and can see how much happier they are! (Person knows you still live in the city with your kids in an apartment.)

The possibilities are endless really.

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Another garbage study with no control group that was designed to show masks work, didn't show they worked at all (it actually showed more COVID was in mask required schools), so they made up a "predicted secondary attack number" based on a "model". Never mind the conflict of interest of American Academy of Pediatrics and funding by the NAIAD (which Fauci is in charge of) - both organizations have been hardcore forced child maskers.

Vinay Prasad summarizes it perfectly

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Seems like some people really don't want to believe masks work. I haven't read this study but it's different from the Arkansas study cited 2 pages ago which did show causality and showed masks worked pretty definitively. YMMV.

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Yep, wearing a good mask correctly does help protect you against covid. But in my family, the downsides of wearing masks outweigh the benefits to us. So we choose to not wear masks. Please leave us alone and do not try to shame us into wearing them.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like some people really don't want to believe masks work. I haven't read this study but it's different from the Arkansas study cited 2 pages ago which did show causality and showed masks worked pretty definitively. YMMV.

Seems like some people really want to believe masks work, no matter what the science.

Bahaha - at least you admit you don't read the studies. If you read the AAP study, you'd have seen that there was actually much more COVID in schools with masks.

The Arkansas study is not peer-reviewed. No contol group, and once again used a model. MMWR's are published to back government policy, not be independent analyses. If they don't get the result the CDC wants, they won't get published. See AAP study too, which you love to cite - the incidence of COVID in mask required schools was much higher than in mask optional.

No, if you want to do a study, you have an actual control group. There's been 2 large RCTs with control groups on masks, both of which showed cloth and surgical masks don't work (surgical only did for those over 50 in a pre-vaccine world, and it prevented a whopping 18 cases out of 50,000+ people).

Here's a new mask study in schools in Spain with a control group - surprise, surprise, masks didn't work - consistent with the few other mask studies with actual control groups:

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, you've shown that masks actually prevent the spread of covid, but that doesn't mean we should mask HERE. It's totally okay to spread Covid HERE.

Nevermind about long covid. Nevermind that even mild cases of covid cause elevated heart risk issues in 3% above what's normal of the population post infection. Nevermind about this B2 variant that spreads more quickly and is more dangerous that B1 Omicron and is causing concern in other countries. If you're not okay with getting or spreading a little bit of covid at this point, your only goal must be zero covid or lowest covid possible and any sacrifices to get there must be worth it. Like some of us have other considerations besides physical health in mind when having an opinion. Such as, from earlier comments in this and other threads: Lipstick. Seeing people's beautiful smiles.

Right.

Covid spread is quite low here right now. If you aren't unwilling to unmask now, you're never going to be willing to unmask. One reasonable course of action is to unmask when cases are low and re-evaluate as you go along. If the B2 variant is coming for us, well I'll be glad I got a masking break and I'll put my mask back on.

The snark about it only being about lipstick and smiles is lame. If you can't see why humans don't want to wear masks all the time, then you don't see it. And if you can't see why it might not be great for kids to grow up for years on end wearing masks, then you don't see it.

I would be willing to unmask right now if I didn’t have a super expensive international trip coming up for spring break. Not willing to have the whole family go down over the next four weeks when we’ve made it this far. You have no idea why people are still masking. i know my reason is purely selfish and privileged.

Guess you haven't seen the research that masks don't work (except when perfectly put on a mannequin in a labratory - they don't in real life setting with real life humans).

Well we mask regularly inside, frequent stores, gym, and kids play on mix of indoor or outdoor sports. Never had Covid. So we’re sticking with what’s been working until spring break.

You've probably already had Covid and didn't know it. (More than 1/3 of Virginians have already had it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/28/covid-cases-nationwide/)

I know that’s what you would like to think, but we are all testing weekly due to various reasons related to school, work, etc.

Who is “we are all”? I’m not doing that and no one I know is doing that.

My family. I’m referring to my situation given we have not had COVID.

May whole family had covid. I had symptoms but never tested positive. Either I’m immune to covid or else I just don’t show positive.

OK cool story, I think the new feature where you can’t see the whole thread at once has people responding with random statements.

This started with me saying we are masking until spring break because we have a vacation planned. Someone else responded saying masks don’t work. I indicated that we do a shit ton of stuff inside with masks and family has never gotten Covid, but that was disputed because so many people in this area have apparently already had it. I responded saying that we test at least weekly, everyone in our household. We have never had Covid, we’ve never been sick this entire time. I have a severe immune system issues so we would have known. Maybe we were lucky, maybe the KN95s really work for us. Whatever, we’re going to keep masking due to our vacation and the bro dads/rage moms can keep being irritated by it.

It's bizarre that the anti maskers are so triggered by OTHER people wearing masks. I have a high risk condition so I need to wear masks indoors.

And my allergist just told me to wear my mask outdoors now because of spring allergens. Wasn't crazy about doing that but tried it and it does help. So now I will be wearing my mask outside too not for Covid but for allergies.

Why do other people care what I do?

"Anti-maskers" in this area aren't triggered by other people wearing masks. They do not care. They are triggered by other people telling them that they are selfish, horrible human beings for not wearing a mask. They are triggered by people saying that their non-mask-wearing kids should go off in a room by themselves to be taught separately. They are triggered by people saying that they should be more worried about covid, long covid, catching covid multiple times, etc.

I am also triggered by the passive aggressive commentary.

We let Johnny decide what to do and he wants to wear a mask since he cares about others and the community.

If that type of a comment makes you feel bad, you should consider why that is.

It doesn't make me feel bad. It makes me feel annoyed. I find passive aggressive people annoying. We all know them. People who slip their digs in with the saccharine sweet BS delivery. And please note, women do this. Not men. Just get over it and say what you mean.

Well your decision not to mask does have an impact on other people. If you find it annoying when others express appreciation for those who take others' into account, that's on you.

I guess you're the type who makes these comments. People smile at you but think you're insufferable. In case you're wondering.

I tend to avoid people who sound like this on both sides. If only we actually did take each other into account and not just fight about it on anonymous message boards.

Yes. One of my least favorite things is the person who weaves in a dig while talking about how great their choices are, when they know you have made a different choice than them. It's so childish and transparent. And if you call them on it, oh you are reading into and just over sensitive. Mmkay.

Examples:

Larla has done so well in daycare. The fact that she's around other kids all day and not just home with an adult has done wonders for her social skills. (Person knows you have a nanny.)
Tom and I are so glad we moved to the suburbs. We just love having all the green space for the kids and can see how much happier they are! (Person knows you still live in the city with your kids in an apartment.)

The possibilities are endless really.

I feel very sorry for your psyche that you read a slight into everything.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, you've shown that masks actually prevent the spread of covid, but that doesn't mean we should mask HERE. It's totally okay to spread Covid HERE.

Nevermind about long covid. Nevermind that even mild cases of covid cause elevated heart risk issues in 3% above what's normal of the population post infection. Nevermind about this B2 variant that spreads more quickly and is more dangerous that B1 Omicron and is causing concern in other countries. If you're not okay with getting or spreading a little bit of covid at this point, your only goal must be zero covid or lowest covid possible and any sacrifices to get there must be worth it. Like some of us have other considerations besides physical health in mind when having an opinion. Such as, from earlier comments in this and other threads: Lipstick. Seeing people's beautiful smiles.

Right.

Covid spread is quite low here right now. If you aren't unwilling to unmask now, you're never going to be willing to unmask. One reasonable course of action is to unmask when cases are low and re-evaluate as you go along. If the B2 variant is coming for us, well I'll be glad I got a masking break and I'll put my mask back on.

The snark about it only being about lipstick and smiles is lame. If you can't see why humans don't want to wear masks all the time, then you don't see it. And if you can't see why it might not be great for kids to grow up for years on end wearing masks, then you don't see it.

I would be willing to unmask right now if I didn’t have a super expensive international trip coming up for spring break. Not willing to have the whole family go down over the next four weeks when we’ve made it this far. You have no idea why people are still masking. i know my reason is purely selfish and privileged.

Guess you haven't seen the research that masks don't work (except when perfectly put on a mannequin in a labratory - they don't in real life setting with real life humans).

Well we mask regularly inside, frequent stores, gym, and kids play on mix of indoor or outdoor sports. Never had Covid. So we’re sticking with what’s been working until spring break.

You've probably already had Covid and didn't know it. (More than 1/3 of Virginians have already had it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/28/covid-cases-nationwide/)

I know that’s what you would like to think, but we are all testing weekly due to various reasons related to school, work, etc.

Who is “we are all”? I’m not doing that and no one I know is doing that.

My family. I’m referring to my situation given we have not had COVID.

May whole family had covid. I had symptoms but never tested positive. Either I’m immune to covid or else I just don’t show positive.

OK cool story, I think the new feature where you can’t see the whole thread at once has people responding with random statements.

This started with me saying we are masking until spring break because we have a vacation planned. Someone else responded saying masks don’t work. I indicated that we do a shit ton of stuff inside with masks and family has never gotten Covid, but that was disputed because so many people in this area have apparently already had it. I responded saying that we test at least weekly, everyone in our household. We have never had Covid, we’ve never been sick this entire time. I have a severe immune system issues so we would have known. Maybe we were lucky, maybe the KN95s really work for us. Whatever, we’re going to keep masking due to our vacation and the bro dads/rage moms can keep being irritated by it.

It's bizarre that the anti maskers are so triggered by OTHER people wearing masks. I have a high risk condition so I need to wear masks indoors.

And my allergist just told me to wear my mask outdoors now because of spring allergens. Wasn't crazy about doing that but tried it and it does help. So now I will be wearing my mask outside too not for Covid but for allergies.

Why do other people care what I do?

This whole thread started due to people talking about a mask optional policy. Optional. You are correct, no one cares what you do. They are optional and we are glad they are optional. But some people have been upset that they are no longer mandated.

This is it exactly. People who don't want to wear a mask don't really care if others wish to. But, those who want to wear masks are often bent out of shape by others not doing so.

There are those who want everyone unmasked so their kids can see other kids' faces. I used to buy into that a lot more but I wonder if the challenges have been overblown at least a bit. A couple weeks ago my kid and their friend were making funny faces at each other. One child was masked. The other wasn't. The mask didn't hinder their game at all. They both laughed hysterically at each other. Eyes + hand gestures were enough to communicate in their game.