Roe v Wade struck down

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Anonymous wrote:Drop it. This isn't the political mobilizer you think it is.

No. We won’t drop it.
We’ll continue to show the republicans for what they have become.
We will do it with the understanding of who the American people are, but we won’t stop.

Fine waste your time, but most people don't share this fear and outrage that you do, it's not winning you the big elections.

It has won many elections. Trump's second term is a disaster.

Ballot measures passed in 7 out 10 states. The issue is now effectively a state issue and is over for Federal elections.

You are underestimating how simple the evangelical and conservative Catholic MAGA voters are. It's been beaten into their heads to "save the fetuses" and anyone can tap into that, no matter what is actually practical.

Birth control and condoms are very practical

But not 100% effective, plus many of the awful tragedies happening to women in the states with bans are with wanted pregnancies.

Except there aren’t “many awful tragedies” happening due to the abortion ban. Women can still get abortions if they are medically necessary. The end.

Depending on where they live, not they cannot. And...the GOP is trying to prevent pregnant women from leaving their states. Also, it is quite a lot of privilege to suggest women have to travel for medical procedures.

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Anonymous wrote:Drop it. This isn't the political mobilizer you think it is.

No. We won’t drop it.
We’ll continue to show the republicans for what they have become.
We will do it with the understanding of who the American people are, but we won’t stop.

Fine waste your time, but most people don't share this fear and outrage that you do, it's not winning you the big elections.

It has won many elections. Trump's second term is a disaster.

Ballot measures passed in 7 out 10 states. The issue is now effectively a state issue and is over for Federal elections.

That was a successful talking point/ trick. It stops being effective when the Republicans work to fulfill all of their promises from project 2025. Maybe you believed your own lie? If so, you are in for a very confusing and difficult few years.

What are you even talking about? Abortion is now a state issue, like zoning. Going forward there is limited prospect of abortion influencing Federal elections. Democrats tried to make it an issue this election by getting referenda on the ballot in several states with mixed success. The only national issue for Democrats ifs whether they would propose national legislation to make Roe federal law. It’s notable that they have had several opportunities under Obama and Biden to attempt to do so but demurred. So not enough the Democratic Party truly wants to actually pass national abortion legislation.

The posters here aren’t ignorant rubes. You might have tricked voters into thinking checking the prochoice box on their state ballot was sufficient, but people posting here are informed.
We are aware that the new Trump administration plans to ban Mifepristone at the FDA and enact Comstock. Both actions banning and limiting abortion at the federal level. So… the republicans found a talking point that worked this past election cycle. They fooled the voters with that garbage , but that bu!!$hit doesn’t fly here.
and once the RWNJ’s that piggy backing in with Trump are empowered, voters will see the deception too.

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This states the woman died June ‘23.

Since that time miscarriages at HM are no longer handled in the ER but transferred to the OB HR at HM where they are treated by obgyn doctors and nurses who are performing d&c’s if needed.

She was the third woman to die in Texas because they couldn't get an abortion.

"Texas doctors told ProPublica the law has changed the way their colleagues see the procedure; some no longer consider it a first-line treatment, fearing legal repercussions or dissuaded by the extra legwork required to document the miscarriage and get hospital approval to carry out a D&C. This has occurred, ProPublica found, even in cases like Porsha’s where there isn’t a fetal heartbeat or the circumstances should fall under an exception in the law. Some doctors are transferring those patients to other hospitals, which delays their care, or they’re defaulting to treatments that aren’t the medical standard."

"But the ultrasound record alone was less definitive from a legal perspective, several doctors explained to ProPublica. Since Porsha had not had a prenatal visit, there was no documentation to prove she was 11 weeks along. On paper, this “pregnancy of unknown location” diagnosis could also suggest that she was only a few weeks into a normally developing pregnancy, when cardiac activity wouldn’t be detected. Texas outlaws abortion from the moment of fertilization; a record showing there is no cardiac activity isn’t enough to give physicians cover to intervene, experts said.

Dr. Gabrielle Taper, who recently worked as an OB-GYN resident in Austin, said that she regularly witnessed delays after ultrasound reports like these. “If it’s a pregnancy of unknown location, if we do something to manage it, is that considered an abortion or not?” she said, adding that this was one of the key problems she encountered. After the abortion ban went into effect, she said, “there was much more hesitation about: When can we intervene, do we have enough evidence to say this is a miscarriage, how long are we going to wait, what will we use to feel definitive?”"

"Performing a D&C, though, attracts more attention from colleagues, creating a higher barrier in a state where abortion is illegal, explained Goulding, the OB-GYN in Houston. Staff are familiar with misoprostol because it’s used for labor, and it only requires a doctor and a nurse to administer it. To do a procedure, on the other hand, a doctor would need to find an operating room, an anesthesiologist and a nursing team. “You have to convince everyone that it is legal and won’t put them at risk,” said Goulding. “Many people may be afraid and misinformed and refuse to participate — even if it’s for a miscarriage.”"

Omg. Can you not read or do you just blindly believe all these sensationalized stories? This death has NOTHING to do with the abortion laws. AGAIN. There has yet to be an article posted here with a death directly caused by abortion laws. The doctor gave her the abortion pill, to help her body finish expelling all the tissue, because that was the hospital’s protocol for first trimester miscarriages that needed moving along. In Texas, all forms of abortion are illegal unless medically necessary- including the pill. This isn’t a matter of denying her an abortion, the doctor failed her in using the wrong method for abortion- but the pill or a D&C have the same legal parameters

Clearly, you didn’t read.

“ To do a procedure, on the other hand, a doctor would need to find an operating room, an anesthesiologist and a nursing team. “You have to convince everyone that it is legal and won’t put them at risk,” said Goulding. “Many people may be afraid and misinformed and refuse to participate — even if it’s for a miscarriage.””

Republicans are killing women.

That was other “experts”paid to speculate for this news article. They were not involved in this case at all nor do they have any details

Ignorant Republicans trying to insert themselves into women’s medical care are creating unnecessary and deadly obstacles for women to get the care they need.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drop it. This isn't the political mobilizer you think it is.

No. We won’t drop it.
We’ll continue to show the republicans for what they have become.
We will do it with the understanding of who the American people are, but we won’t stop.

Fine waste your time, but most people don't share this fear and outrage that you do, it's not winning you the big elections.

It has won many elections. Trump's second term is a disaster.

Ballot measures passed in 7 out 10 states. The issue is now effectively a state issue and is over for Federal elections.

That was a successful talking point/ trick. It stops being effective when the Republicans work to fulfill all of their promises from project 2025. Maybe you believed your own lie? If so, you are in for a very confusing and difficult few years.

What are you even talking about? Abortion is now a state issue, like zoning. Going forward there is limited prospect of abortion influencing Federal elections. Democrats tried to make it an issue this election by getting referenda on the ballot in several states with mixed success. The only national issue for Democrats ifs whether they would propose national legislation to make Roe federal law. It’s notable that they have had several opportunities under Obama and Biden to attempt to do so but demurred. So not enough the Democratic Party truly wants to actually pass national abortion legislation.

The posters here aren’t ignorant rubes. You might have tricked voters into thinking checking the prochoice box on their state ballot was sufficient, but people posting here are informed.
We are aware that the new Trump administration plans to ban Mifepristone at the FDA and enact Comstock. Both actions banning and limiting abortion at the federal level. So… the republicans found a talking point that worked this past election cycle. They fooled the voters with that garbage , but that bu!!$hit doesn’t fly here.
and once the RWNJ’s that piggy backing in with Trump are empowered, voters will see the deception too.

100%

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You know how Republicans are so “concerned” about women in prison now?

I’m sure they are also very “concerned” for their access to healthcare once on parole/probation.

Not every woman can legally travel to access proper healthcare.

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Anonymous wrote:You know how Republicans are so “concerned” about women in prison now?

I’m sure they are also very “concerned” for their access to healthcare once on parole/probation.

Not every woman can legally travel to access proper healthcare.

WTF!!!

California and New York have abortion bans?

Damn, this is worse than in thought!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know how Republicans are so “concerned” about women in prison now?

I’m sure they are also very “concerned” for their access to healthcare once on parole/probation.

Not every woman can legally travel to access proper healthcare.

WTF!!!

California and New York have abortion bans?

Damn, this is worse than in thought!

NY is 24 weeks.
CA is viability.

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This is a travesty. But at the same time it’s not like the facts are going to get better. Lots of women died in 2024 too. And will continue doing so for the foreseeable future.

But groceries!

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This is a travesty. But at the same time it’s not like the facts are going to get better. Lots of women died in 2024 too. And will continue doing so for the foreseeable future.

But groceries!

Republicans DGAF about maternal deaths. Obviously.

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This is a travesty. But at the same time it’s not like the facts are going to get better. Lots of women died in 2024 too. And will continue doing so for the foreseeable future.

But groceries!

Republicans DGAF about maternal deaths. Obviously.

Or maternal health, as we see since the Idaho EMTALA case is back in hearings today.
https://www.jezebel.com/idaho-argues-pregnant-women-facing-amputations-from-septic-shock-cant-get-emergency-abortions

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This is a travesty. But at the same time it’s not like the facts are going to get better. Lots of women died in 2024 too. And will continue doing so for the foreseeable future.

But groceries!

Republicans DGAF about maternal deaths. Obviously.

Or maternal health, as we see since the Idaho EMTALA case is back in hearings today.
https://www.jezebel.com/idaho-argues-pregnant-women-facing-amputations-from-septic-shock-cant-get-emergency-abortions

Over 2/3 of Idaho voted for Trump so it seems that Idaho voters are prepared to dispense with women of child bearing age.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drop it. This isn't the political mobilizer you think it is.

No. We won’t drop it.
We’ll continue to show the republicans for what they have become.
We will do it with the understanding of who the American people are, but we won’t stop.

Fine waste your time, but most people don't share this fear and outrage that you do, it's not winning you the big elections.

It has won many elections. Trump's second term is a disaster.

Ballot measures passed in 7 out 10 states. The issue is now effectively a state issue and is over for Federal elections.

You are underestimating how simple the evangelical and conservative Catholic MAGA voters are. It's been beaten into their heads to "save the fetuses" and anyone can tap into that, no matter what is actually practical.

Birth control and condoms are very practical

But not 100% effective, plus many of the awful tragedies happening to women in the states with bans are with wanted pregnancies.

Except there aren’t “many awful tragedies” happening due to the abortion ban. Women can still get abortions if they are medically necessary. The end.

Depending on where they live, not they cannot. And...the GOP is trying to prevent pregnant women from leaving their states. Also, it is quite a lot of privilege to suggest women have to travel for medical procedures.

They (GOP) is also hindering data being gathered since Roe was over-turned.

[Anonymous]

It's almost unbelievable to me that in the first presidential election post-Roe the abortion issue could not deliver a win for the Democrats. I think this is going to remain a states-issue from here on out -- 2024 was the high-water mark of abortion as a national election issue.

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Anonymous wrote:You know how Republicans are so “concerned” about women in prison now?

I’m sure they are also very “concerned” for their access to healthcare once on parole/probation.

Not every woman can legally travel to access proper healthcare.

WTF!!!

California and New York have abortion bans?

Damn, this is worse than in thought!

Virginia has abortion restrictions starting at 27 weeks ( and there are exceptions to this limit). I don’t think most reasonable people would consider this a ban.