First D1 school with full international roster - depressing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Missouri State will be the first D1 school to have a full international roster, no American kids. If you thought the transfer portal and NIL were ruining college football and basketball, it is nothing compared to mens soccer.

https://www.nationalsoccernetwork.com/post/missouri-state-becomes-first-known-ncaa-program-built-entirely-on-international-talent?srsltid=AfmBOorH8JdnO6v2QYx4OwwcsspHkLoM4KllD4kmcGiWEWGd-lE9CbMh

Pay 2 play vs genuine growth and development.

What do you want, US of A?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This has absolutely nothing to do with "open borders", but recent topic expert is here to stir some s**t up

Truth hurts, did I strike a nerve. And yes, have a 2013B on a NOVA club. Sorry, nice try though.

I have a 2013G and still think you're stirring sh*t up for no reason. This has nothing to do with "open borders". You're just parroting dumb talking points where they do not apply at all.

Yep, struck a nerve

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This has absolutely nothing to do with "open borders", but recent topic expert is here to stir some s**t up

Truth hurts, did I strike a nerve. And yes, have a 2013B on a NOVA club. Sorry, nice try though.

I have a 2013G and still think you're stirring sh*t up for no reason. This has nothing to do with "open borders". You're just parroting dumb talking points where they do not apply at all.

Yep, struck a nerve

Yes. He doesn't care about Juan and Abdul coming here, legally or otherwise, from Honduras and Pakistan to work low level jobs. They aren't a threat to his wallet.

However, Pablo, from Spain, and Nigel, from England, will keep young Hunter/Henry/Satchel/Jayden or whatever from maybe playing college soccer. Now it's, "By golly, we need to put limits on who comes here and for what reason!"

[Anonymous]

To previous poster who mentioned tennis, this is correct and becoming more common. No team is winning the D1 championship without some foreign players.
I played D1 tennis in the late 80s and we had two foreign players on our roster and my experience was that much better with them on the team.
I am all for non US players on rosters, but I believe there should be a limit. Fewer and fewer kids in the US are pursuing college tennis because they know they are competing against the world for a roster spot.

The last point I will make is from the point of view of a college coach. Foreign players are usually more mature and more reliable. They have tried playing professionally and didn't work out. They don't come here to join frats and party. They come to train hard, play hard, and get a degree, and many want to stay here. Some serve assistant coaches and get grad degrees. I am all for that.
For the sport of soccer, some become your ecnl coaches !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To previous poster who mentioned tennis, this is correct and becoming more common. No team is winning the D1 championship without some foreign players.
I played D1 tennis in the late 80s and we had two foreign players on our roster and my experience was that much better with them on the team.
I am all for non US players on rosters, but I believe there should be a limit. Fewer and fewer kids in the US are pursuing college tennis because they know they are competing against the world for a roster spot.

The last point I will make is from the point of view of a college coach. Foreign players are usually more mature and more reliable. They have tried playing professionally and didn't work out. They don't come here to join frats and party. They come to train hard, play hard, and get a degree, and many want to stay here. Some serve assistant coaches and get grad degrees. I am all for that.
For the sport of soccer, some become your ecnl coaches !

What a coherent opinion, refreshing. And I agree too, at least in publicly funded colleges.

[Anonymous]

I’m happy my son is only 7

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m happy my son is only 7

Broken system mate - get out while you can!

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Maybe they will graduate and stay in the US and coach our Club teams. Then WE can field better developed players.

If these kids were superstars they'd be in their home countries playing professionally at some level. Believe it.

Good point. The losers of Germany are still better than your MLS Next pretty boy.

Then they can play MLS pro. But this is college sports. COLLEGE. WTF?!

I genuinely cannot watch that drivel. Do parental fees continue with MLS Next Pro? (Genuinely curious)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m happy my son is only 7

I hear ya. My son is only 10 and also holds a European passport on top of his American. We’ll be moving for various reasons but I’d be lying if I didn’t admit I’m pretty excited about him getting to play real football, indulge in the culture and actually getting the opportunity of us watching live games together all while improving and raising his bilingualism to native levels, seeing life from a different POV and let’s face it, a better education system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a political divide on this issue? If the percentage of in-state undergrads at a public school kept decreasing every year, then the public and state representatives would surely do something about it. Why are non-revenue sports different?

Missouri State is not a professional team. What's the point of having their soccer team represented by zero players from Missouri?

And yes, this applies to every other state school. I would rather watch a UMD team that is mediocre but has 50% players from Bethesda, Celtic, Armour, Pipeline, etc.. than a Budesliga 4 team made up of players who didn't know Maryland existed before coming here.

This right here!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Maybe they will graduate and stay in the US and coach our Club teams. Then WE can field better developed players.

If these kids were superstars they'd be in their home countries playing professionally at some level. Believe it.

But they are better than the US kids?

Yes, they are better than US kids. And I don't mind the best kids coming here to play soccer, tennis or any sport if they are paying full tuition rates, like most international students who are paying full tuition. But when a public college pays international students to play a sport, they are using public money (my tax dollars, your tax dollars) to fund that student, rather than an American student. And that I am not ok with

[Anonymous]

SheeehLH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great! Maybe they will graduate and stay in the US and coach our Club teams. Then WE can field better developed players.

If these kids were superstars they'd be in their home countries playing professionally at some level. Believe it.

But they are better than the US kids?

Yes, they are better than US kids. And I don't mind the best kids coming here to play soccer, tennis or any sport if they are paying full tuition rates, like most international students who are paying full tuition. But when a public college pays international students to play a sport, they are using public money (my tax dollars, your tax dollars) to fund that student, rather than an American student. And that I am not ok with

someone should do
The American thing and sue

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Maybe they will graduate and stay in the US and coach our Club teams. Then WE can field better developed players.

If these kids were superstars they'd be in their home countries playing professionally at some level. Believe it.

But they are better than the US kids?

Yes, they are better than US kids. And I don't mind the best kids coming here to play soccer, tennis or any sport if they are paying full tuition rates, like most international students who are paying full tuition. But when a public college pays international students to play a sport, they are using public money (my tax dollars, your tax dollars) to fund that student, rather than an American student. And that I am not ok with

someone should do
The American thing and sue

On what grounds? “It’s just not fair!!!!” won’t work.

[Anonymous]

Every soccer team at every college loses money for the college. Every single one. International players are not about making money. They are about winning. Sports is about winning. If you aren’t doing everything you can to win then you will be replaced by someone who will. Sports culture is winning culture. Do we really want to make sports not about winning? Sports is close to the only true (not perfect) meritocracy around where performance is settled in the arena. Are people really saying meritocracy is bad now just because it’s in an area their kids can’t win?