First D1 school with full international roster - depressing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great! Maybe they will graduate and stay in the US and coach our Club teams. Then WE can field better developed players.

If these kids were superstars they'd be in their home countries playing professionally at some level. Believe it.

But they are better than the US kids?

Yes, they are better than US kids. And I don't mind the best kids coming here to play soccer, tennis or any sport if they are paying full tuition rates, like most international students who are paying full tuition. But when a public college pays international students to play a sport, they are using public money (my tax dollars, your tax dollars) to fund that student, rather than an American student. And that I am not ok with

[Anonymous]

SheeehLH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great! Maybe they will graduate and stay in the US and coach our Club teams. Then WE can field better developed players.

If these kids were superstars they'd be in their home countries playing professionally at some level. Believe it.

But they are better than the US kids?

Yes, they are better than US kids. And I don't mind the best kids coming here to play soccer, tennis or any sport if they are paying full tuition rates, like most international students who are paying full tuition. But when a public college pays international students to play a sport, they are using public money (my tax dollars, your tax dollars) to fund that student, rather than an American student. And that I am not ok with

someone should do
The American thing and sue

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great! Maybe they will graduate and stay in the US and coach our Club teams. Then WE can field better developed players.

If these kids were superstars they'd be in their home countries playing professionally at some level. Believe it.

But they are better than the US kids?

Yes, they are better than US kids. And I don't mind the best kids coming here to play soccer, tennis or any sport if they are paying full tuition rates, like most international students who are paying full tuition. But when a public college pays international students to play a sport, they are using public money (my tax dollars, your tax dollars) to fund that student, rather than an American student. And that I am not ok with

someone should do
The American thing and sue

On what grounds? “It’s just not fair!!!!” won’t work.

[Anonymous]

Every soccer team at every college loses money for the college. Every single one. International players are not about making money. They are about winning. Sports is about winning. If you aren’t doing everything you can to win then you will be replaced by someone who will. Sports culture is winning culture. Do we really want to make sports not about winning? Sports is close to the only true (not perfect) meritocracy around where performance is settled in the arena. Are people really saying meritocracy is bad now just because it’s in an area their kids can’t win?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great! Maybe they will graduate and stay in the US and coach our Club teams. Then WE can field better developed players.

If these kids were superstars they'd be in their home countries playing professionally at some level. Believe it.

But they are better than the US kids?

Yes, they are better than US kids. And I don't mind the best kids coming here to play soccer, tennis or any sport if they are paying full tuition rates, like most international students who are paying full tuition. But when a public college pays international students to play a sport, they are using public money (my tax dollars, your tax dollars) to fund that student, rather than an American student. And that I am not ok with

someone should do
The American thing and sue

Ye hard luck mate! I to would be raging if my Johnny came out pretty mediocre after 5-8-10 years of paying absurd fees to play soccer while my kid learned genuine football for essentially Pennies if not free and now he’s getting a degree for the lowlow if not free while you gotta get debt or refinance the house for a lousy degree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great! Maybe they will graduate and stay in the US and coach our Club teams. Then WE can field better developed players.

If these kids were superstars they'd be in their home countries playing professionally at some level. Believe it.

But they are better than the US kids?

Yes, they are better than US kids. And I don't mind the best kids coming here to play soccer, tennis or any sport if they are paying full tuition rates, like most international students who are paying full tuition. But when a public college pays international students to play a sport, they are using public money (my tax dollars, your tax dollars) to fund that student, rather than an American student. And that I am not ok with

But how much money could Missouri State have for soccer? They can't be paying them very much to play. And many states already have rules about financial aid for non-residents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every soccer team at every college loses money for the college. Every single one. International players are not about making money. They are about winning. Sports is about winning. If you aren’t doing everything you can to win then you will be replaced by someone who will. Sports culture is winning culture. Do we really want to make sports not about winning? Sports is close to the only true (not perfect) meritocracy around where performance is settled in the arena. Are people really saying meritocracy is bad now just because it’s in an area their kids can’t win?

Then we have lost the plot for American college sports. I have zero problem with this for actual pro sports. But this is college. And considering several colleges don't even have mens soccer teams anymore (which is a topic for another thread), the opportunities are even less for US soccer players to play at the college level. Colleges are now hiring recruiting assistants from overseas as well (look at Missouri State who got theirs from Italy). American kids should have the opportunity to play at American colleges. I don't know any other country that would allow this on this level if the roles were reversed.

[Anonymous]

Do better America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every soccer team at every college loses money for the college. Every single one. International players are not about making money. They are about winning. Sports is about winning. If you aren’t doing everything you can to win then you will be replaced by someone who will. Sports culture is winning culture. Do we really want to make sports not about winning? Sports is close to the only true (not perfect) meritocracy around where performance is settled in the arena. Are people really saying meritocracy is bad now just because it’s in an area their kids can’t win?

Then we have lost the plot for American college sports. I have zero problem with this for actual pro sports. But this is college. And considering several colleges don't even have mens soccer teams anymore (which is a topic for another thread), the opportunities are even less for US soccer players to play at the college level. Colleges are now hiring recruiting assistants from overseas as well (look at Missouri State who got theirs from Italy). American kids should have the opportunity to play at American colleges. I don't know any other country that would allow this on this level if the roles were reversed.

So state schools will never be able to compete with private schools who can pay for whatever players to come. Either you want true meritocracy or you want protectionism. Will it go to state schools not being able to recruit out of state football players next?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every soccer team at every college loses money for the college. Every single one. International players are not about making money. They are about winning. Sports is about winning. If you aren’t doing everything you can to win then you will be replaced by someone who will. Sports culture is winning culture. Do we really want to make sports not about winning? Sports is close to the only true (not perfect) meritocracy around where performance is settled in the arena. Are people really saying meritocracy is bad now just because it’s in an area their kids can’t win?

Then we have lost the plot for American college sports. I have zero problem with this for actual pro sports. But this is college. And considering several colleges don't even have mens soccer teams anymore (which is a topic for another thread), the opportunities are even less for US soccer players to play at the college level. Colleges are now hiring recruiting assistants from overseas as well (look at Missouri State who got theirs from Italy). American kids should have the opportunity to play at American colleges. I don't know any other country that would allow this on this level if the roles were reversed.

So it’s about love of the game?

BS. It’s about winning until the system starts to work against your kid.

Get rid of recruiting, NIL and the portal and then get back to us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do better America.

Start with your geography, America is a continent. Not a country. Do better, US citizen.

[Anonymous]

WVU and Marshall have always been essentially foreign teams. Both had 26 of 28 foreign players. Their average age is usually very high as well.

Foreign players get virtually all of the scholarship money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We welcome immigrants in this country.

Up yours. NO COUNTRY on earth places immigrants and internationals above its own citizens!!! That is foolish and dangerous. Would never send my child to this school or watch their games. Losers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great! Maybe they will graduate and stay in the US and coach our Club teams. Then WE can field better developed players.

If these kids were superstars they'd be in their home countries playing professionally at some level. Believe it.

But they are better than the US kids?

Yes, they are better than US kids. And I don't mind the best kids coming here to play soccer, tennis or any sport if they are paying full tuition rates, like most international students who are paying full tuition. But when a public college pays international students to play a sport, they are using public money (my tax dollars, your tax dollars) to fund that student, rather than an American student. And that I am not ok with

someone should do
The American thing and sue

Ye hard luck mate! I to would be raging if my Johnny came out pretty mediocre after 5-8-10 years of paying absurd fees to play soccer while my kid learned genuine football for essentially Pennies if not free and now he’s getting a degree for the lowlow if not free while you gotta get debt or refinance the house for a lousy degree.

Good job you didn't pay "absurd fees" to teach you how write coherently. It would be money wasted. Innit?