Why are Tech Bros so obsessed with guaranteed income?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why does Musk worry about depopulation meanwhile lets people die from starvation?

How is Musk letting people die of starvation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does Musk worry about depopulation meanwhile lets people die from starvation?

How is Musk letting people die of starvation?

Oh, I forgot about all of his efforts to combat hunger. What were they again? Most of the world's richest people have charitable foundations and efforts. What were his again?

[Anonymous]

I don’t know about tech bros but I’d like to see restaurant servers, delivery people and uber drivers have UBI and be replaced by robots because robots at least don’t give me attitude and hopefully are reasonably competent.

[Anonymous]

I assume sterilization will be a condition for getting UBI. Basically if you cant figure out how to sustain yourself, society will support you and then its the end of your gene line more or less.

[Anonymous]

You get “dignity” from … work?

Weird. So weird.

Work is highly overrated. You are probably the only one on the planet who thinks like this.

There is literally 2000+ years worth of theology and philosophy about the moral value of work.

Colossians 3:23-25: “Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men, since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving.”

2 Thessalonians 3:6, “For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busybodies.”

A society reliant on UBI without jobs to keep people occupied and give their lives structure is not going to go well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you mean they’re obsessed with guaranteed income? Can you elaborate?

OP is talking about Universal Basic Income (UBI). It's the idea of guaranteeing all people some basic financial subsistence, paid out as a government benefit, regardless of whether they work or not.

A lot of tech bros like UBI because it's their proposed solution to automation and AI making so many jobs obsolete.

It was once a far left idea, a form of socialism, but due to AI it's become more embraced by libertarians or corporate tech bros, and people on the left are more likely to talk about using social democratic ideas to protect jobs.

This. AI will kill so many jobs. Universal basic income is a way to give most people welfare when our American unemployment rate skyrockets to 25 pct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What do you mean they’re obsessed with guaranteed income? Can you elaborate?

+1 I have no idea what OP is talking about. What tech bros and what are you chooing to listen to? Turn it off if you don't like it. Go for a run without ear buds.

[Anonymous]

Work is important. Early retirees face up to 20% higher likelihood of death. There is a death spike at age 62 even after accounting for regular causes.

[Anonymous]

Define "tech bro." "Technology brother"? What even is that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are Tech Bros so obsessed with guaranteed income? And why does the media give them so much space on just about any topic as if these guys are prophets?

I want to work. It gives me dignity. I don't want some random dude with flip flop wearing short and a wrinkly shirt, weird AF, can barely make a normal eye contact telling giving his opinion about my life

Just why?

Well, I would like the dignity of not working, because the idea that I need to work to live is ridiculous. I like the idea of AI doing everything, and I get guaranteed income to do whatever I want to do to enjoy myself and my time on earth.

America does not believe in everyone being equal. Why do you think we have zoning? There is nothing more American than driving by some neighborhood and seeing pristine homes with beautiful streets secluded from the mass and then a few miles away people on top of each other with terrible road.

That's called affording nice things because you have money? Why can't I pay more to have nice stuff?

[Anonymous]

If the tech bros were ever going to run the country and have the pull to make something like this happen, it's now. Did you see the inauguration stage?

And yet, they haven't made a peep about pushing this through now.

Performative BS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tech Bros? Could you be any more offensive.

Many tech companies pay in stock and in other ways and your income becomes based off the stock value at the time AND you have to pay taxes the day the stock vests. You cannot count on that given the market goes up and down. You cannot choose the day it vests. We had a heavy stock job for one spouse and it was stressful. We didn't live off the stock but the income greatly varied. So much better without it now.

I know a Tech Bro and he is one of the most arrogant and obnoxious people I have ever met. They definitely deserve to be called tech bros. If they act like tech bros, they deserve to be called tech bros.

[Anonymous]

Because the tech bros plan to fire everyone and without a guaranteed income most of us would starve to death.

[Anonymous]

Over-confidence in his own ability is a hallmark of a Tech-Bro.

[Anonymous]

Instead of UBI, why don't they talk about FDR-style public works programs to create jobs lost to AI AND make the world a better place?