universal screening

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Anonymous wrote:What is the percentage of students who are in pool? Top 10%? Kid is in pool with NNAT 142 and NGAT 150. Higher performing school.

I believe it is about 10%, maybe a bit more, in third grade but 20% by 6th grade.

Correction,

The top 10% at each school are in pool.

About 10% of the kids in 3rd grade are in AAP and that percentage of kids in AAP grows each year as kids are added to the program through applications and people moving in.

This makes it sound like you have to be universally screened to have a realistic chance of being AAP.

That doesn’t sound right to me. What am I missing?

To start with, it's probably like 7% of the 10% of in pool kids in with the remaining 3% being non-universal via teacher/parent. Then, additional kids gradually filter in as years go by.

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Kids who are in-pool are more likely to be accepted into AAP. There are a lot more kids who are parent referred for AAP then are in-pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids who are in-pool are more likely to be accepted into AAP. There are a lot more kids who are parent referred for AAP then are in-pool.

Here's a question--if you parent refer, and your kid also makes it in-pool, is the parent referral letter still read/considered?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kids who are in-pool are more likely to be accepted into AAP. There are a lot more kids who are parent referred for AAP then are in-pool.

Here's a question--if you parent refer, and your kid also makes it in-pool, is the parent referral letter still read/considered?

I would think so. That's why AART always encourage us to parent refer. It adds more perspective and paints a holistic picture of the child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kids who are in-pool are more likely to be accepted into AAP. There are a lot more kids who are parent referred for AAP then are in-pool.

Here's a question--if you parent refer, and your kid also makes it in-pool, is the parent referral letter still read/considered?

Yes, they get everything submitted

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids who are in-pool are more likely to be accepted into AAP. There are a lot more kids who are parent referred for AAP then are in-pool.

Here's a question--if you parent refer, and your kid also makes it in-pool, is the parent referral letter still read/considered?

Those who are in pool
Are NOT automatically accepted. My son was in pool. Many of his friends too. Did NOT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids who are in-pool are more likely to be accepted into AAP. There are a lot more kids who are parent referred for AAP then are in-pool.

If his test scores were extremely high and his teacher’s HOPE score were not good ( used to be GBRT I think). It’s important for parents to appeal, much easier to reverse the decision with a high WISC score.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids who are in-pool are more likely to be accepted into AAP. There are a lot more kids who are parent referred for AAP then are in-pool.

Here's a question--if you parent refer, and your kid also makes it in-pool, is the parent referral letter still read/considered?

Those who are in pool
Are NOT automatically accepted. My son was in pool. Many of his friends too. Did NOT

I understand that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the percentage of students who are in pool? Top 10%? Kid is in pool with NNAT 142 and NGAT 150. Higher performing school.

I believe it is about 10%, maybe a bit more, in third grade but 20% by 6th grade.

Correction,

The top 10% at each school are in pool.

About 10% of the kids in 3rd grade are in AAP and that percentage of kids in AAP grows each year as kids are added to the program through applications and people moving in.

This makes it sound like you have to be universally screened to have a realistic chance of being AAP.

That doesn’t sound right to me. What am I missing?

Their numbers are completely wrong. The last time FCPS released numbers for AAP, over 16% of the 2nd grade population was found eligible. In the AAP eligibility report, 3991 2nd graders were evaluated for AAP, with 1409 in pool, 2165 parent referrals, and the rest teacher referrals. 2198 kids were found eligible. Since even more schools are offering AAP, I doubt they're taking fewer kids nowadays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids who are in-pool are more likely to be accepted into AAP. There are a lot more kids who are parent referred for AAP then are in-pool.

Here's a question--if you parent refer, and your kid also makes it in-pool, is the parent referral letter still read/considered?

Those who are in pool
Are NOT automatically accepted. My son was in pool. Many of his friends too. Did NOT

I understand that.

The conventional wisdom of 10 years ago was that around 2/3 of the in pool kids and around 1/2 of the parent referrals were admitted. I doubt this has changed much. The AAP equity report showed that the GBRS score was much more significant than any test scores for AAP eligibility. The same is likely true for the HOPE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids who are in-pool are more likely to be accepted into AAP. There are a lot more kids who are parent referred for AAP then are in-pool.

Here's a question--if you parent refer, and your kid also makes it in-pool, is the parent referral letter still read/considered?

Those who are in pool
Are NOT automatically accepted. My son was in pool. Many of his friends too. Did NOT

I understand that.

The conventional wisdom of 10 years ago was that around 2/3 of the in pool kids and around 1/2 of the parent referrals were admitted. I doubt this has changed much. The AAP equity report showed that the GBRS score was much more significant than any test scores for AAP eligibility. The same is likely true for the HOPE.

Wonder what their math is regarding those universal screeners who also submitted parent referrals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids who are in-pool are more likely to be accepted into AAP. There are a lot more kids who are parent referred for AAP then are in-pool.

Here's a question--if you parent refer, and your kid also makes it in-pool, is the parent referral letter still read/considered?

Those who are in pool
Are NOT automatically accepted. My son was in pool. Many of his friends too. Did NOT

I understand that.

The conventional wisdom of 10 years ago was that around 2/3 of the in pool kids and around 1/2 of the parent referrals were admitted. I doubt this has changed much. The AAP equity report showed that the GBRS score was much more significant than any test scores for AAP eligibility. The same is likely true for the HOPE.

Wonder what their math is regarding those universal screeners who also submitted parent referrals.

DC got 99 percentile on MAP. Also doing subject-specific AAP since 1st grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids who are in-pool are more likely to be accepted into AAP. There are a lot more kids who are parent referred for AAP then are in-pool.

Here's a question--if you parent refer, and your kid also makes it in-pool, is the parent referral letter still read/considered?

Those who are in pool
Are NOT automatically accepted. My son was in pool. Many of his friends too. Did NOT

I understand that.

The conventional wisdom of 10 years ago was that around 2/3 of the in pool kids and around 1/2 of the parent referrals were admitted. I doubt this has changed much. The AAP equity report showed that the GBRS score was much more significant than any test scores for AAP eligibility. The same is likely true for the HOPE.

Wonder what their math is regarding those universal screeners who also submitted parent referrals.

Huh? In the report, the parent referrals were kids who were not in pool. Probably most of the in-pool kids also had parents fill out the referral materials. They're still considered in pool and not parent referrals.

[Anonymous]

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DC got 99 percentile on MAP. Also doing subject-specific AAP since 1st grade.

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I am curious what the MAP scores are for those who are in pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
DC got 99 percentile on MAP. Also doing subject-specific AAP since 1st grade.

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I am curious what the MAP scores are for those who are in pool.

My in pool DC was in the 99th percentile for MAP.