Is substitute teaching like uber?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to FCPS- English,
Optional!


I can safely assume you do not have kids in College. Lots of professors, PhDs, have very thick accents.

Yes, I know it is different, but what do you expect when the county pays $15hr? A babysitter charges more!


To be fair, they pay a regular sub rate of $21.22/hr.



Yep.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to FCPS- English,
Optional!


I can safely assume you do not have kids in College. Lots of professors, PhDs, have very thick accents.

Yes, I know it is different, but what do you expect when the county pays $15hr? A babysitter charges more!


College professors are completely different category. Those are educated people that speak great English with an accent. They very likely studied in US or did research in English. We’re talking about people limited English in K-12, where kids are learning the basics and need clear instructions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to FCPS- English,
Optional!


I can safely assume you do not have kids in College. Lots of professors, PhDs, have very thick accents.

Yes, I know it is different, but what do you expect when the county pays $15hr? A babysitter charges more!


DP. I have three kids in college and yes, lots of profs have heavy accents - some virtually unintelligible. However, that should also not be happening at any level of schooling. Students, regardless of their age, should be able to understand their teachers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to FCPS- English,
Optional!


I can safely assume you do not have kids in College. Lots of professors, PhDs, have very thick accents.

Yes, I know it is different, but what do you expect when the county pays $15hr? A babysitter charges more!


College professors are completely different category. Those are educated people that speak great English with an accent. They very likely studied in US or did research in English. We’re talking about people limited English in K-12, where kids are learning the basics and need clear instructions.


DP. I agree with you, except that many foreign-born college profs do not "speak great English". There are plenty of forums where students discuss various professors and having a thick, unintelligible accent is one of the biggest issues.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to FCPS- English,
Optional!


I can safely assume you do not have kids in College. Lots of professors, PhDs, have very thick accents.

Yes, I know it is different, but what do you expect when the county pays $15hr? A babysitter charges more!


College professors are completely different category. Those are educated people that speak great English with an accent. They very likely studied in US or did research in English. We’re talking about people limited English in K-12, where kids are learning the basics and need clear instructions.


DP. I agree with you, except that many foreign-born college profs do not "speak great English". There are plenty of forums where students discuss various professors and having a thick, unintelligible accent is one of the biggest issues.


But again, college is completely different. Those are young adults with critical thinking skills and they have access to books and other online resources. Not like a 5th grader that relies on classroom instructions because that is the only information he’s getting. The lack of textbooks in schools is just unbelievable. Schoology with all its “resources” is pure garbage. I know it is off topic, but I just can’t stand this. FCPS is knee deep in issues nobody wants them to be (bathrooms and lawsuits against the government, what?) instead of focusing on what they are being paid for.

Regardless, FCPS, please stop clearing all these people to be substitutes. You’re not helping the system. People will be fed up with the fact they cannot get a decent assignment and will leave as soon as something better opens up. Just wait 6 months and you will see the mass exodus.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As an admin I fielded several calls so far from subs wanting information on how to become a site sub -- which technically no longer exist. I also get some subs coming to me at the end of the day wanting to know if there are any other jobs in Red Rover for my school that I can assign to them because jobs are so few right now. I tell them to keep coming back when they can and develop relationships with the teachers they sub for and when jobs come up they will be on that teachers 'go to' list for preferred classroom coverage. Personally, I love having so many subs looking for jobs becuase I don't have to scramble in the morning when a teacher calls out and now I need to beg another teacher to cover their class. I do agree, however, that it will be interesting if FCPS keeps the minimum day requirement for subs to remain subs -- there are 7,000 registered substitutes in Red Rover right now...


I used to work as a sub, when did they changed from Smart-line
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to FCPS- English,
Optional!


Seems to be optional among the actual teachers, too. Especially at the high school level. Ridiculous.


My daughter said she has difficulty understanding her pre-calculus teacher this year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to FCPS- English,
Optional!


Seems to be optional among the actual teachers, too. Especially at the high school level. Ridiculous.


My daughter said she has difficulty understanding her pre-calculus teacher this year.


Tell her to get used to it. She will find the same issues in College for Science, Math and IT.

No different than attending Thomas Jefferson high school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m sure long term sub jobs have turned into permanent positions while they help you get licensed


This is not a common occurrence.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As an admin I fielded several calls so far from subs wanting information on how to become a site sub -- which technically no longer exist. I also get some subs coming to me at the end of the day wanting to know if there are any other jobs in Red Rover for my school that I can assign to them because jobs are so few right now. I tell them to keep coming back when they can and develop relationships with the teachers they sub for and when jobs come up they will be on that teachers 'go to' list for preferred classroom coverage. Personally, I love having so many subs looking for jobs becuase I don't have to scramble in the morning when a teacher calls out and now I need to beg another teacher to cover their class. I do agree, however, that it will be interesting if FCPS keeps the minimum day requirement for subs to remain subs -- there are 7,000 registered substitutes in Red Rover right now...


I used to work as a sub, when did they changed from Smart-line


They switched from SmartFind to Red Rover during the ‘23-‘24 SY.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to FCPS- English,
Optional!


I can safely assume you do not have kids in College. Lots of professors, PhDs, have very thick accents.

Yes, I know it is different, but what do you expect when the county pays $15hr? A babysitter charges more!


College professors are completely different category. Those are educated people that speak great English with an accent. They very likely studied in US or did research in English. We’re talking about people limited English in K-12, where kids are learning the basics and need clear instructions.


+1. Not to mention, I have students with Type 1 diabetes, seizure disorders, life threatening food allergies, etc. I leave very detailed sub plans with all of this information explicitly stated. We also have lockdown drills and occasionally real lockdowns and other emergency protocols. I attach this information too. If you cannot read or comprehend English, you cannot read any of those instructions. I'm rarely out and my coworkers are very helpful but I am not comfortable with the idea of a sub who can't read or speak English well trying to navigate an emergency situation. This is a lot different than a college class where students are able bodied adults who have a lot more awareness of how to react in an emergency.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to FCPS- English,
Optional!


I can safely assume you do not have kids in College. Lots of professors, PhDs, have very thick accents.

Yes, I know it is different, but what do you expect when the county pays $15hr? A babysitter charges more!


College professors are completely different category. Those are educated people that speak great English with an accent. They very likely studied in US or did research in English. We’re talking about people limited English in K-12, where kids are learning the basics and need clear instructions.


DP. I agree with you, except that many foreign-born college profs do not "speak great English". There are plenty of forums where students discuss various professors and having a thick, unintelligible accent is one of the biggest issues.


But again, college is completely different. Those are young adults with critical thinking skills and they have access to books and other online resources. Not like a 5th grader that relies on classroom instructions because that is the only information he’s getting. The lack of textbooks in schools is just unbelievable. Schoology with all its “resources” is pure garbage. I know it is off topic, but I just can’t stand this. FCPS is knee deep in issues nobody wants them to be (bathrooms and lawsuits against the government, what?) instead of focusing on what they are being paid for.

Regardless, FCPS, please stop clearing all these people to be substitutes. You’re not helping the system. People will be fed up with the fact they cannot get a decent assignment and will leave as soon as something better opens up. Just wait 6 months and you will see the mass exodus.


PP here - again, I agree with almost everything you said, except for the college profs who barely speak English. Regardless of their age, there should be a basic understanding that teachers/professors will be able to communicate clearly in English. Period.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to FCPS- English,
Optional!


Seems to be optional among the actual teachers, too. Especially at the high school level. Ridiculous.


My daughter said she has difficulty understanding her pre-calculus teacher this year.


+1
It seems to almost always be math teachers. Ridiculous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to FCPS- English,
Optional!


Seems to be optional among the actual teachers, too. Especially at the high school level. Ridiculous.


My daughter said she has difficulty understanding her pre-calculus teacher this year.


Tell her to get used to it. She will find the same issues in College for Science, Math and IT.

No different than attending Thomas Jefferson high school.


Or, you know, teachers should only be hired if they speak very good English and can be understood.
DP
Anonymous
Uh, nope. Not like Uber at all.
You can decide who you are driving ot not.
You can decide when you are driving or not.
You can kick rude drivers out of your car.
You are paid more per amount of people and distance.
You make the rules in your car.

It's the complete opposite when teaching. Kids tell you what and where. There's a set fee no matter what. Those kids will try your last nerve and you cannot leave. You can make rules, but...good luck with that.
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