Is substitute teaching like uber?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Welcome to FCPS- English,
Optional!


I can safely assume you do not have kids in College. Lots of professors, PhDs, have very thick accents.

Yes, I know it is different, but what do you expect when the county pays $15hr? A babysitter charges more!


College professors are completely different category. Those are educated people that speak great English with an accent. They very likely studied in US or did research in English. We’re talking about people limited English in K-12, where kids are learning the basics and need clear instructions.


+1. Not to mention, I have students with Type 1 diabetes, seizure disorders, life threatening food allergies, etc. I leave very detailed sub plans with all of this information explicitly stated. We also have lockdown drills and occasionally real lockdowns and other emergency protocols. I attach this information too. If you cannot read or comprehend English, you cannot read any of those instructions. I'm rarely out and my coworkers are very helpful but I am not comfortable with the idea of a sub who can't read or speak English well trying to navigate an emergency situation. This is a lot different than a college class where students are able bodied adults who have a lot more awareness of how to react in an emergency.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to FCPS- English,
Optional!


I can safely assume you do not have kids in College. Lots of professors, PhDs, have very thick accents.

Yes, I know it is different, but what do you expect when the county pays $15hr? A babysitter charges more!


College professors are completely different category. Those are educated people that speak great English with an accent. They very likely studied in US or did research in English. We’re talking about people limited English in K-12, where kids are learning the basics and need clear instructions.


DP. I agree with you, except that many foreign-born college profs do not "speak great English". There are plenty of forums where students discuss various professors and having a thick, unintelligible accent is one of the biggest issues.


But again, college is completely different. Those are young adults with critical thinking skills and they have access to books and other online resources. Not like a 5th grader that relies on classroom instructions because that is the only information he’s getting. The lack of textbooks in schools is just unbelievable. Schoology with all its “resources” is pure garbage. I know it is off topic, but I just can’t stand this. FCPS is knee deep in issues nobody wants them to be (bathrooms and lawsuits against the government, what?) instead of focusing on what they are being paid for.

Regardless, FCPS, please stop clearing all these people to be substitutes. You’re not helping the system. People will be fed up with the fact they cannot get a decent assignment and will leave as soon as something better opens up. Just wait 6 months and you will see the mass exodus.


PP here - again, I agree with almost everything you said, except for the college profs who barely speak English. Regardless of their age, there should be a basic understanding that teachers/professors will be able to communicate clearly in English. Period.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to FCPS- English,
Optional!


Seems to be optional among the actual teachers, too. Especially at the high school level. Ridiculous.


My daughter said she has difficulty understanding her pre-calculus teacher this year.


+1
It seems to almost always be math teachers. Ridiculous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to FCPS- English,
Optional!


Seems to be optional among the actual teachers, too. Especially at the high school level. Ridiculous.


My daughter said she has difficulty understanding her pre-calculus teacher this year.


Tell her to get used to it. She will find the same issues in College for Science, Math and IT.

No different than attending Thomas Jefferson high school.


Or, you know, teachers should only be hired if they speak very good English and can be understood.
DP
Anonymous
Uh, nope. Not like Uber at all.
You can decide who you are driving ot not.
You can decide when you are driving or not.
You can kick rude drivers out of your car.
You are paid more per amount of people and distance.
You make the rules in your car.

It's the complete opposite when teaching. Kids tell you what and where. There's a set fee no matter what. Those kids will try your last nerve and you cannot leave. You can make rules, but...good luck with that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to FCPS- English,
Optional!


Seems to be optional among the actual teachers, too. Especially at the high school level. Ridiculous.


My daughter said she has difficulty understanding her pre-calculus teacher this year.


Tell her to get used to it. She will find the same issues in College for Science, Math and IT.

No different than attending Thomas Jefferson high school.


Or, you know, teachers should only be hired if they speak very good English and can be understood.
DP


Yes, but sadly, the majority of highly educated people, especially in STEM, are foreigners .
Anonymous
I subbed today- kids have no accountability and teachers are hand feeding and coddling like crazy and their handwriting is atrocious!

Can’t read.
Can’t do math- can barely write the numbers correctly, can’t spell last names (bc it’s not required) and don’t know how’s date stuff- don’t know the order… this is 4th-6th grades.

Shoot, pay me extra and I’ll get them sorted out!
Anonymous
Started basic handwriting formation in the middle of a lesson.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I subbed today- kids have no accountability and teachers are hand feeding and coddling like crazy and their handwriting is atrocious!

Can’t read.
Can’t do math- can barely write the numbers correctly, can’t spell last names (bc it’s not required) and don’t know how’s date stuff- don’t know the order… this is 4th-6th grades.

Shoot, pay me extra and I’ll get them sorted out!


Wow, you come, spend one day in classroom and feel like you are better than all the qualified teachers in the school? Let me guess, you are a formal HR manager that was responsible for “enhancing” and “overseeing” and “action planning”… and that’s why you were let go
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I subbed today- kids have no accountability and teachers are hand feeding and coddling like crazy and their handwriting is atrocious!

Can’t read.
Can’t do math- can barely write the numbers correctly, can’t spell last names (bc it’s not required) and don’t know how’s date stuff- don’t know the order… this is 4th-6th grades.

Shoot, pay me extra and I’ll get them sorted out!


Wow, you come, spend one day in classroom and feel like you are better than all the qualified teachers in the school? Let me guess, you are a formal HR manager that was responsible for “enhancing” and “overseeing” and “action planning”… and that’s why you were let go


DP. Not the above PP, but I have to say - it's so depressing to sub. The kids are unbelievably rude (most, not all) and there is no support from admin. I'm subbing less and less and will probably stop altogether sometime this year. It's simply not worth it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I subbed today- kids have no accountability and teachers are hand feeding and coddling like crazy and their handwriting is atrocious!

Can’t read.
Can’t do math- can barely write the numbers correctly, can’t spell last names (bc it’s not required) and don’t know how’s date stuff- don’t know the order… this is 4th-6th grades.

Shoot, pay me extra and I’ll get them sorted out!


Wow, you come, spend one day in classroom and feel like you are better than all the qualified teachers in the school? Let me guess, you are a formal HR manager that was responsible for “enhancing” and “overseeing” and “action planning”… and that’s why you were let go


You come in one day and see how everyone is failing! Doesn’t taken a genius to figure out kids can’t read.
What’s wrong with identifying that kids have challenges and are behind? Call it what it is!

Why so hostile?

And no, wasn’t a hr manager that was let go. No thanks.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I subbed today- kids have no accountability and teachers are hand feeding and coddling like crazy and their handwriting is atrocious!

Can’t read.
Can’t do math- can barely write the numbers correctly, can’t spell last names (bc it’s not required) and don’t know how’s date stuff- don’t know the order… this is 4th-6th grades.

Shoot, pay me extra and I’ll get them sorted out!


Feel free to apply and show the rest of us how it’s done!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It takes forever to get onboarded, but otherwise yes. You don't need 30 college credits to sub for Instructional Assistants, just a HS diploma.


You don’t even need to speak English, sadly. You can show up for any assignment and have zero clue on the subject.


To be a substitute teacher?? Is this accurate? In my local school district you must have a ed ba and one year teaching degree.


Which state?


I’m also curious.

That sounds very stupid. I don’t know of any place in the country that is not hurting for subs.


FCPS seems to be in not such a hurt this SY. Jobs in the Red Rover sub system have been few and far between. When they get posted they often claimed within minutes.


probably because they got rid of all the classroom monitors who are now subs.
Anonymous
Bring back classroom monitors!!!!
Anonymous
Quals for driving Uber are way higher.
-must be financially solvent enough to afford decent, late-model car
-must have wherewithal to keep said car clean and maintained
-must be open to continuous feedback and adjust behavior accordingly
-must have good personal hygiene and present oneself in a courteous manner

The Uber / substitute quals venn diagram has very small overlap
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