RTO is a myth/joke

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a fed and no one is teleworking. NO ONE. Contractors are still teleworking nonstop though.

Several people do work 6-2:30, as the parking lot is pretty full by 6am.

I take every Friday off in the summer. DH and I trade who picks up and drops off, so he does drop off at 9 and I pick up at 3:30.

This is what my spouse does. Goes in early.

[Anonymous]

At this point I'd rather use my leave than to keep accruing it.

[Anonymous]

IDK why this is so shocking to you. I def have coworkers who leave at 230 pm - bc they arrive at 6 am. I have others who are taking a few hours off every single day bc camp only goes to 2 or 3 pm and there's no other way to get to their kid. There are others who pick up their kid at 230 pm but the other parent did drop off in the morning at 8-9 am, enabling the pick up parent to get to work at 6 am. Do you really not know these possibilities exist? And why is it your business anyway?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At this point I'd rather use my leave than to keep accruing it.

Why? I'm not judging I'm really asking - as a leave hoarder myself. IDK I don't expect to stay in government - whether of my own volition or being let go - so the way I see it, why not grab 30-40k+ out the door? Is it about not wanting to miss time with your kids etc?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Man you're a miserable person.

No one teleworks at my entire agency unless it's some sort of medical emergency. Very rare.

Agreed. OP, you need boundaries and to MYOB.

[Anonymous]

We are using as much leave as possible; no sense in letting it build up any more. I get to work early and take off time in the afternoon.

A lot of the parents OP thinks are "feds" are probably federal contractors who never stopped working remotely.

[Anonymous]

Camp providers realized during Covid they don't need to provide full days. I use my lunch hour to pick my kids up from camp, drop them home and then go back to the office. I am working 8 hours a day, 5 days a week in the office. When I can't stay late, I take half hour of leave here and there.

For the doctors appts and car appts, that was the perfect thing to do on a tw day. Maybe you'd need 90 mins of leave. Now it's an all day off kind of thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My husband is a fed and had to RTO 5 days a week. It sucks.
I’m a fed still at home covering everything at home. Also sucks.
We are both working long hours and he is def back in office. No flexibility. From an agency that pioneered telework.

This comment is so tone deaf. Are we supposed to pity you because you work from home and now you and your husband don’t work from home?

Most people do not work from home. Most people do not have spouses that work from home.

Just deal with it.

[Anonymous]

I’m a fed parent you see at camp drop off and pickup, and at the pool for the afternoon. Because I took the fork and am making the best of a horrible situation! Others in my neighborhood are doing the same after being RIFd or put on admin leave.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And, as another pp pointed out, there is no need for me to save my leave anymore if I could get fired at any moment. Or resign at any moment. The "stable job" part of federal employment is gone and most of us are acting like it.

Huh if you can get fired or resign at any moment YMMV but I’d rather do that while cashing out 40k in vacation time on the way out rather - there will be plenty of time after that to get your hair done or go shopping.

But yeah OP people are out and about a ton because they are burning leave left and right. I’ve had coworkers take full days off for errands like hair cuts and car servicing bc they simply didn’t want to come in.

Meh I had over 240 hours saved and it was "only" 17k. I'm a GS 14, so maybe others have more, but I'm sure it's not 40k getting paid out.

I’m at a financial regulator and GS-15 supervisors have 480 hours of use or lose and SESers have 760. It’s over $100k for some people.

I’m sure you live next to 100 maxed out employees who happen to all work at FinReg…

[Anonymous]

No one at my agency teleworks. They’re even ubering people that can’t drive due to a broken driving foot. The only way we can telework is due to inclement weather announced by OPM. No other reason.

[Anonymous]

The only people teleworking at my agency are political appointees and those who have pushed through Reasonable Accommodations. I’m taking two and a half hours of leave a day this week to do the camp drop off shuffle for my 9 y/o since DH is out of town with DS.

If I was allowed telework, it would be zero hours of leave. That’s not the point though. My fed contractor neighbors still get to telework. Maybe that’s who OP is thinking of.

[Anonymous]

Interesting how Feds accrued so much leave over the past few years. I wonder why they didn’t they take much leave but now suddenly need to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only people teleworking at my agency are political appointees and those who have pushed through Reasonable Accommodations. I’m taking two and a half hours of leave a day this week to do the camp drop off shuffle for my 9 y/o since DH is out of town with DS.

If I was allowed telework, it would be zero hours of leave. That’s not the point though. My fed contractor neighbors still get to telework. Maybe that’s who OP is thinking of.

Op is an ignorant sh** stirring troll. Plenty of job categories involve flexible/alternative work hours that allow summer pickups and that are not in federal govt-reaching, health care workers, research etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting how Feds accrued so much leave over the past few years. I wonder why they didn’t they take much leave but now suddenly need to.

I think they've said it on here before many times. I guess it didn't get through your thick head.

1. The commute makes camp schedules more difficult. Working at home, they don't lose 2+ hours to commuting so can drop off a child at 8:30 camp and be online by 9, etc. Now they physically have fewer hours. Time is finite, you see. So they have to patch in their leave to make it through summer schedules which are notoriously erratic.

2. They DGAF, and where they used to roll it over, now with so much uncertaintly, they'd rather take it and enjoy the summer before a rif or retirement.

I don't know why that was so hard for you. I'm following along and I'm not even a fed.