MLSNext watered down

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like the MLSNext talent pool gets watered down as the top talent goes to the academies. So tier 1 and tier 2 are really tier 2 and tier 3. How is this supposed to be better quality than ECNL?

I don’t think one or two academies per metro area or region can absorb all top talent in their areas. Some top talent with EU or other passports are probably avoiding MLS academies as well and hoping to jump abroad.

Also random comparison with ECNL. ECNL would be tier 2 behind MLSNext 1.

Eh- not really. They sort of serve different audiences. The best Next teams might be better overall but the best ECNL clubs are better than the middling and low tier next clubs. Let's take VDA, Pipeline, and Richmond vs. WVA and Alexandria Achilles as just a few local examples

Looking at QoP rankings for Mid-Atlantic for U13 and out of 18 teams, Alexandria is #5 and Achilles #9. In front of them are MLS academies NY Red Bulls and Phili Union, along with FC Delco and SYC.

So no, VDA, Pipeline and Richmond would not have a walk in the park against Alexandria or Achilles — at least in the age bracket I saw. The quality of teams and players are stronger across the board at MLSNext.

This is a funny post considering none of those teams uses taka.

What’s funny is the idiocy of thinking any of those teams are good. It’s ECNL.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like the MLSNext talent pool gets watered down as the top talent goes to the academies. So tier 1 and tier 2 are really tier 2 and tier 3. How is this supposed to be better quality than ECNL?

I don’t think one or two academies per metro area or region can absorb all top talent in their areas. Some top talent with EU or other passports are probably avoiding MLS academies as well and hoping to jump abroad.

Also random comparison with ECNL. ECNL would be tier 2 behind MLSNext 1.

Eh- not really. They sort of serve different audiences. The best Next teams might be better overall but the best ECNL clubs are better than the middling and low tier next clubs. Let's take VDA, Pipeline, and Richmond vs. WVA and Alexandria Achilles as just a few local examples

Looking at QoP rankings for Mid-Atlantic for U13 and out of 18 teams, Alexandria is #5 and Achilles #9. In front of them are MLS academies NY Red Bulls and Phili Union, along with FC Delco and SYC.

So no, VDA, Pipeline and Richmond would not have a walk in the park against Alexandria or Achilles — at least in the age bracket I saw. The quality of teams and players are stronger across the board at MLSNext.

Many of these clubs faced off in the Copa Rayados last fall. ECNL did well against MLSN in the U13/14 age group.

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/33570

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like the MLSNext talent pool gets watered down as the top talent goes to the academies. So tier 1 and tier 2 are really tier 2 and tier 3. How is this supposed to be better quality than ECNL?

I don’t think one or two academies per metro area or region can absorb all top talent in their areas. Some top talent with EU or other passports are probably avoiding MLS academies as well and hoping to jump abroad.

Also random comparison with ECNL. ECNL would be tier 2 behind MLSNext 1.

Eh- not really. They sort of serve different audiences. The best Next teams might be better overall but the best ECNL clubs are better than the middling and low tier next clubs. Let's take VDA, Pipeline, and Richmond vs. WVA and Alexandria Achilles as just a few local examples

Looking at QoP rankings for Mid-Atlantic for U13 and out of 18 teams, Alexandria is #5 and Achilles #9. In front of them are MLS academies NY Red Bulls and Phili Union, along with FC Delco and SYC.

So no, VDA, Pipeline and Richmond would not have a walk in the park against Alexandria or Achilles — at least in the age bracket I saw. The quality of teams and players are stronger across the board at MLSNext.

Many of these clubs faced off in the Copa Rayados last fall. ECNL did well against MLSN in the U13/14 age group.

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/33570

Looks like Richmond beat Alexandria 6-0 at the U15 level. Not sure where the idea that the local MLSN teams are better than ECNL comes from but the facts don't seem to support that. Pipeline, VDA, Arlington, Richmond, NCFC are all very competitive with MLSN teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Who are these MLSNext v ECNL people? Does it matter? If your player is talented and putting in the work and supported by coach and club, does it matter where they play?

Even “bad” MLSNext and ECNL clubs have talented kids. Being on the bench of a top MLSNext team doesn’t make you a better player than a top player on a “bad” MLSNext team or ECNL team. And even if a top MLSNext team has more star players than a “bad” team, doesn’t make the star players on good teams better than the ones on bad teams. Families pick club for certain reasons and likely most top players on MLSNext and ECNL teams can pretty much go wherever they want.

A coach told me that the truly talented with potential don’t seek opportunities, opportunities come to them.

Truly talented kids KNOW that they need to move to Europe by 13....

Thanks for the info. What application do you recommend a 13 YO US citizen fills out?

U need to grow up in Europe. Nobody scouts American kids

We all need to go to Europe OR Canada.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like the MLSNext talent pool gets watered down as the top talent goes to the academies. So tier 1 and tier 2 are really tier 2 and tier 3. How is this supposed to be better quality than ECNL?

I don’t think one or two academies per metro area or region can absorb all top talent in their areas. Some top talent with EU or other passports are probably avoiding MLS academies as well and hoping to jump abroad.

Also random comparison with ECNL. ECNL would be tier 2 behind MLSNext 1.

Eh- not really. They sort of serve different audiences. The best Next teams might be better overall but the best ECNL clubs are better than the middling and low tier next clubs. Let's take VDA, Pipeline, and Richmond vs. WVA and Alexandria Achilles as just a few local examples

Looking at QoP rankings for Mid-Atlantic for U13 and out of 18 teams, Alexandria is #5 and Achilles #9. In front of them are MLS academies NY Red Bulls and Phili Union, along with FC Delco and SYC.

So no, VDA, Pipeline and Richmond would not have a walk in the park against Alexandria or Achilles — at least in the age bracket I saw. The quality of teams and players are stronger across the board at MLSNext.

Many of these clubs faced off in the Copa Rayados last fall. ECNL did well against MLSN in the U13/14 age group.

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/33570

The MLSNext U13 teams in that tourney, for the most part, started practicing together the week before that tourney.

I believe ECNL a generally weaker program than MLSNext, teams like Richmond and VDA would fit in nicely with MLSNext.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like the MLSNext talent pool gets watered down as the top talent goes to the academies. So tier 1 and tier 2 are really tier 2 and tier 3. How is this supposed to be better quality than ECNL?

I don’t think one or two academies per metro area or region can absorb all top talent in their areas. Some top talent with EU or other passports are probably avoiding MLS academies as well and hoping to jump abroad.

Also random comparison with ECNL. ECNL would be tier 2 behind MLSNext 1.

Eh- not really. They sort of serve different audiences. The best Next teams might be better overall but the best ECNL clubs are better than the middling and low tier next clubs. Let's take VDA, Pipeline, and Richmond vs. WVA and Alexandria Achilles as just a few local examples

Looking at QoP rankings for Mid-Atlantic for U13 and out of 18 teams, Alexandria is #5 and Achilles #9. In front of them are MLS academies NY Red Bulls and Phili Union, along with FC Delco and SYC.

So no, VDA, Pipeline and Richmond would not have a walk in the park against Alexandria or Achilles — at least in the age bracket I saw. The quality of teams and players are stronger across the board at MLSNext.

Many of these clubs faced off in the Copa Rayados last fall. ECNL did well against MLSN in the U13/14 age group.

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/33570

Looks like Richmond beat Alexandria 6-0 at the U15 level. Not sure where the idea that the local MLSN teams are better than ECNL comes from but the facts don't seem to support that. Pipeline, VDA, Arlington, Richmond, NCFC are all very competitive with MLSN teams.

NCFC, VDA and Richmond, yes. That leaves 12 mid to dumpster fire teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like the MLSNext talent pool gets watered down as the top talent goes to the academies. So tier 1 and tier 2 are really tier 2 and tier 3. How is this supposed to be better quality than ECNL?

I don’t think one or two academies per metro area or region can absorb all top talent in their areas. Some top talent with EU or other passports are probably avoiding MLS academies as well and hoping to jump abroad.

Also random comparison with ECNL. ECNL would be tier 2 behind MLSNext 1.

Eh- not really. They sort of serve different audiences. The best Next teams might be better overall but the best ECNL clubs are better than the middling and low tier next clubs. Let's take VDA, Pipeline, and Richmond vs. WVA and Alexandria Achilles as just a few local examples

Looking at QoP rankings for Mid-Atlantic for U13 and out of 18 teams, Alexandria is #5 and Achilles #9. In front of them are MLS academies NY Red Bulls and Phili Union, along with FC Delco and SYC.

by your logic the next teams aren't good then as they all lost to ECNL teams in the Best of and Copa tournamnet. So there's that.

if ECNL= bad, then Next is just as bad. Sorry.

So no, VDA, Pipeline and Richmond would not have a walk in the park against Alexandria or Achilles — at least in the age bracket I saw. The quality of teams and players are stronger across the board at MLSNext.

This is a funny post considering none of those teams uses taka.

What’s funny is the idiocy of thinking any of those teams are good. It’s ECNL.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like the MLSNext talent pool gets watered down as the top talent goes to the academies. So tier 1 and tier 2 are really tier 2 and tier 3. How is this supposed to be better quality than ECNL?

I don’t think one or two academies per metro area or region can absorb all top talent in their areas. Some top talent with EU or other passports are probably avoiding MLS academies as well and hoping to jump abroad.

Also random comparison with ECNL. ECNL would be tier 2 behind MLSNext 1.

Eh- not really. They sort of serve different audiences. The best Next teams might be better overall but the best ECNL clubs are better than the middling and low tier next clubs. Let's take VDA, Pipeline, and Richmond vs. WVA and Alexandria Achilles as just a few local examples

Looking at QoP rankings for Mid-Atlantic for U13 and out of 18 teams, Alexandria is #5 and Achilles #9. In front of them are MLS academies NY Red Bulls and Phili Union, along with FC Delco and SYC.

So no, VDA, Pipeline and Richmond would not have a walk in the park against Alexandria or Achilles — at least in the age bracket I saw. The quality of teams and players are stronger across the board at MLSNext.

Many of these clubs faced off in the Copa Rayados last fall. ECNL did well against MLSN in the U13/14 age group.

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/33570

ECNL also beat the next teams in the U-16 and U-17 age group of the Best of tournament and in copa reyados.. So there's that.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like the MLSNext talent pool gets watered down as the top talent goes to the academies. So tier 1 and tier 2 are really tier 2 and tier 3. How is this supposed to be better quality than ECNL?

I don’t think one or two academies per metro area or region can absorb all top talent in their areas. Some top talent with EU or other passports are probably avoiding MLS academies as well and hoping to jump abroad.

Also random comparison with ECNL. ECNL would be tier 2 behind MLSNext 1.

Eh- not really. They sort of serve different audiences. The best Next teams might be better overall but the best ECNL clubs are better than the middling and low tier next clubs. Let's take VDA, Pipeline, and Richmond vs. WVA and Alexandria Achilles as just a few local examples

Looking at QoP rankings for Mid-Atlantic for U13 and out of 18 teams, Alexandria is #5 and Achilles #9. In front of them are MLS academies NY Red Bulls and Phili Union, along with FC Delco and SYC.



So no, VDA, Pipeline and Richmond would not have a walk in the park against Alexandria or Achilles — at least in the age bracket I saw. The quality of teams and players are stronger across the board at MLSNext.

Many of these clubs faced off in the Copa Rayados last fall. ECNL did well against MLSN in the U13/14 age group.

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/33570

Looks like Richmond beat Alexandria 6-0 at the U15 level. Not sure where the idea that the local MLSN teams are better than ECNL comes from but the facts don't seem to support that. Pipeline, VDA, Arlington, Richmond, NCFC are all very competitive with MLSN teams.

NCFC, VDA and Richmond, yes. That leaves 12 mid to dumpster fire teams.

Let's see what the only head to head game results show about how bad ECNL teams in DMV suck compared to Next teams.

U-16
SYC Next lost to VDA ECNL
SYC Next TIED Arlington's 3rd team
Alexandra Next lost to Celtic ECNL
Alexandria Next lost to Skyline ECNL
Bethesda Next lost to Pipeline ECNL
Bethesda Next lost to VDA ECNL

U-17
SYC U-17 lost to VDA by 10 goals, lost to SUSA ECNL, and barely beat a EC Regional league team in head to head.
Alexandria U-17 lost to Skyline ECNL
Bethesda tied FVU ECNL

U-18
SYC Next lost to Arlington ECNL
Arlington ECNL lost to Alexandria ECNL

Common sense tells us that if the ECNL teams in this area suck, then the Next teams must suck worse since they can't beat them head to head....Now can we stop telling tall tales and just agree that the data suggests that both Next and ECNL in this area aren't that much different in the end.

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Anonymous wrote:Who are these MLSNext v ECNL people? Does it matter? If your player is talented and putting in the work and supported by coach and club, does it matter where they play?

Even “bad” MLSNext and ECNL clubs have talented kids. Being on the bench of a top MLSNext team doesn’t make you a better player than a top player on a “bad” MLSNext team or ECNL team. And even if a top MLSNext team has more star players than a “bad” team, doesn’t make the star players on good teams better than the ones on bad teams. Families pick club for certain reasons and likely most top players on MLSNext and ECNL teams can pretty much go wherever they want.

A coach told me that the truly talented with potential don’t seek opportunities, opportunities come to them.

Truly talented kids KNOW that they need to move to Europe by 13....

Thanks for the info. What application do you recommend a 13 YO US citizen fills out?

U need to grow up in Europe. Nobody scouts American kids

We all need to go to Europe OR Canada.

Canada has dramatically gone from a safe democratic country in the 90s to an absolute communist trashhole in 30 years.

Says a redneck living in a Nazi shithole.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like the MLSNext talent pool gets watered down as the top talent goes to the academies. So tier 1 and tier 2 are really tier 2 and tier 3. How is this supposed to be better quality than ECNL?

I don’t think one or two academies per metro area or region can absorb all top talent in their areas. Some top talent with EU or other passports are probably avoiding MLS academies as well and hoping to jump abroad.

Also random comparison with ECNL. ECNL would be tier 2 behind MLSNext 1.

Eh- not really. They sort of serve different audiences. The best Next teams might be better overall but the best ECNL clubs are better than the middling and low tier next clubs. Let's take VDA, Pipeline, and Richmond vs. WVA and Alexandria Achilles as just a few local examples

Looking at QoP rankings for Mid-Atlantic for U13 and out of 18 teams, Alexandria is #5 and Achilles #9. In front of them are MLS academies NY Red Bulls and Phili Union, along with FC Delco and SYC.

So no, VDA, Pipeline and Richmond would not have a walk in the park against Alexandria or Achilles — at least in the age bracket I saw. The quality of teams and players are stronger across the board at MLSNext.

Many of these clubs faced off in the Copa Rayados last fall. ECNL did well against MLSN in the U13/14 age group.

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/33570

Looks like Richmond beat Alexandria 6-0 at the U15 level. Not sure where the idea that the local MLSN teams are better than ECNL comes from but the facts don't seem to support that. Pipeline, VDA, Arlington, Richmond, NCFC are all very competitive with MLSN teams.

NCFC, VDA and Richmond, yes. That leaves 12 mid to dumpster fire teams.

Yes, please enjoy the soccer armpits called West Virginia, Achilles, Keystone, etc.

[Anonymous]

The lcoal NL teams are all ready losing bad to MLSN2 team in my zip code.

Its just the start too.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like the MLSNext talent pool gets watered down as the top talent goes to the academies. So tier 1 and tier 2 are really tier 2 and tier 3. How is this supposed to be better quality than ECNL?

I don’t think one or two academies per metro area or region can absorb all top talent in their areas. Some top talent with EU or other passports are probably avoiding MLS academies as well and hoping to jump abroad.

Also random comparison with ECNL. ECNL would be tier 2 behind MLSNext 1.

Eh- not really. They sort of serve different audiences. The best Next teams might be better overall but the best ECNL clubs are better than the middling and low tier next clubs. Let's take VDA, Pipeline, and Richmond vs. WVA and Alexandria Achilles as just a few local examples

Looking at QoP rankings for Mid-Atlantic for U13 and out of 18 teams, Alexandria is #5 and Achilles #9. In front of them are MLS academies NY Red Bulls and Phili Union, along with FC Delco and SYC.



So no, VDA, Pipeline and Richmond would not have a walk in the park against Alexandria or Achilles — at least in the age bracket I saw. The quality of teams and players are stronger across the board at MLSNext.

Many of these clubs faced off in the Copa Rayados last fall. ECNL did well against MLSN in the U13/14 age group.

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/33570

Looks like Richmond beat Alexandria 6-0 at the U15 level. Not sure where the idea that the local MLSN teams are better than ECNL comes from but the facts don't seem to support that. Pipeline, VDA, Arlington, Richmond, NCFC are all very competitive with MLSN teams.

NCFC, VDA and Richmond, yes. That leaves 12 mid to dumpster fire teams.

Let's see what the only head to head game results show about how bad ECNL teams in DMV suck compared to Next teams.

U-16
SYC Next lost to VDA ECNL
SYC Next TIED Arlington's 3rd team
Alexandra Next lost to Celtic ECNL
Alexandria Next lost to Skyline ECNL
Bethesda Next lost to Pipeline ECNL
Bethesda Next lost to VDA ECNL

U-17
SYC U-17 lost to VDA by 10 goals, lost to SUSA ECNL, and barely beat a EC Regional league team in head to head.
Alexandria U-17 lost to Skyline ECNL
Bethesda tied FVU ECNL

U-18
SYC Next lost to Arlington ECNL
Arlington ECNL lost to Alexandria ECNL

Common sense tells us that if the ECNL teams in this area suck, then the Next teams must suck worse since they can't beat them head to head....Now can we stop telling tall tales and just agree that the data suggests that both Next and ECNL in this area aren't that much different in the end.

ECNL sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like the MLSNext talent pool gets watered down as the top talent goes to the academies. So tier 1 and tier 2 are really tier 2 and tier 3. How is this supposed to be better quality than ECNL?

I don’t think one or two academies per metro area or region can absorb all top talent in their areas. Some top talent with EU or other passports are probably avoiding MLS academies as well and hoping to jump abroad.

Also random comparison with ECNL. ECNL would be tier 2 behind MLSNext 1.

Eh- not really. They sort of serve different audiences. The best Next teams might be better overall but the best ECNL clubs are better than the middling and low tier next clubs. Let's take VDA, Pipeline, and Richmond vs. WVA and Alexandria Achilles as just a few local examples

Looking at QoP rankings for Mid-Atlantic for U13 and out of 18 teams, Alexandria is #5 and Achilles #9. In front of them are MLS academies NY Red Bulls and Phili Union, along with FC Delco and SYC.

So no, VDA, Pipeline and Richmond would not have a walk in the park against Alexandria or Achilles — at least in the age bracket I saw. The quality of teams and players are stronger across the board at MLSNext.

Many of these clubs faced off in the Copa Rayados last fall. ECNL did well against MLSN in the U13/14 age group.

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/33570

Looks like Richmond beat Alexandria 6-0 at the U15 level. Not sure where the idea that the local MLSN teams are better than ECNL comes from but the facts don't seem to support that. Pipeline, VDA, Arlington, Richmond, NCFC are all very competitive with MLSN teams.

NCFC, VDA and Richmond, yes. That leaves 12 mid to dumpster fire teams.

Yes, please enjoy the soccer armpits called West Virginia, Achilles, Keystone, etc.

It’s ECNL. Dumpster fire teams prop up those three. Didn’t ECNL finish their soft season 3 weeks ago?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Outside of the fully funded academies, what big purpose is there for the other leagues MLSNext/ECNL, other than rich families showing off a patch? This is a serious question. Can pay for play boys get a pro contract or scholarship to college? If not, is this just an expensive recreational youth sport?

Wut. What a dumb question. Of course they can.